Kolek planning to go pro
I worked at a restaurant back in high school. Whenever the chefs created a new dish, they would have the entire wait staff try it to see if it was any good. If it wasn't, it didn't get served.Maybe there's a parallel than can be drawn...
Yes, Dawson will get plenty of playing time when we are up 20 with 2 minutes to go. He's a situational player .....
No doubt about it. We need that 20% FT shooting, non-existent 3 point shooting, and tonight 0 assists. Soon teams will again sag off Derrick and his one effective move - going to his right off the dribble while closely defended - will be gone as he won't be able to get a step due to the defender sagging off of him 5 feet. Our conference foes know his game and won't make the same mistake of guarding him honestly as has every team thus far.
Right, sitting behind him for 35 Mpg is very appealing.... Said Nobody
Are we seriously going to have another season of excuse making from Ners about Dawson... after.. EVERY... F*CKING...GAME???
Well, I took a lot of abuse on another board for noting that his actual stats last year were just about the worst in the country. However, that was in very limited playing time, and he looked so good in winning the Georgetown game that I would love to see him get a look. However, big picture I do like that Wojo has seemed to decide on a rotation and stick with it after last year's confusion.
This.sh!t.again.Please mods, give this idiot a vacation.
It amazes me how much cherry picking goes on in the Dawson/Wilson debate that, based on the decisions of two highly paid coaching staffs, isn't even a debate. Dawson was bad in limited action. His 84.9 ORtg was the third worst of any player at Marquette in the past decade. The only players to post a worse offensive rating? Dwight Burke & Jamail Jones. Note which name isn't there...Derrick Wilson.So we hear that Derrick is historically bad, yet Derrick Wilson in his history has never posted a worse offensive season than John Dawson did as a freshman. So cue the excuses...John didn't play enough minutes. But wait...Derrick played about the same minutes as a freshman and posted a higher offensive rating. Derrick's 94.6 ORtg as a junior wasn't great, but it wasn't the worst rating we've seen from a player in college history.Seriously...the hyperbole is old. Derrick can't shoot threes. Derrick can't shoot free throws. We all know that. But Derrick does provide solid defense (not saying he's MJ, but he's one of the best we have) and knows his weaknesses well enough that he defers to other players. But while we all know what he is, what's more important is that two coaching staffs have told us through minutes what he is as well -- better than the options on the bench.
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Maybe if I keep spinning this same line of BS they'll fall for it. After all, I know so much more about basketball than Buzz or Wojo or anyone on this board because I played in high school! Yaaaaaay Me!
What he says...What he means...** Braces for insults of my critical thinking skills or some other tired retort **
Try 85.7 for Derrick as a sophomore.
Which is 100% consistent with Brew's statement that Derrick has never had an ORtg as low as John posted last season.You repeatedly post FG% because it fits your argument, and ignore stats like ORtg because it doesn't...even though ORtg accounts for far more than a single factor.
And BTW - wasn't shocked at all to learn you are a Star Wars fan. You most definitely seem the type.
NERD!!! BREW IS A NERD EVERYONE!!!! HE CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL!!!! I USED TO LOCK HIS TYPES INSIDE MY LOCKER AFTER I PLAYED VARSITY BASKETBALL!!! (DID EVERYONE KNOW THAT I PLAYED VARSITY BASKETBALL BY THE WAY???) NERD!!!!
I generally agree with the Derrick-over-Dawson side of the argument now that a second coach is playing Derrick while burying Dawson on the bench. Both coaches see/saw the players 1000x more than we did, blah blah blah, not gonna rehash it. I thought Dawson should have played more last year because of the "what did we have to lose" argument, but it's ancient history. In the here and now, I want to see more Duane at point and more JJJ/Cohen on the floor this season, and I'd like those things to come at the expense of Derrick's minutes because I've got my eye on 2015-16 and 2016-17, but maybe that's just me. Nevertheless ...ORtg? Effen ORtg? I don't need ORtg or any other stat to tell me that Derrick simply is one of the worst two-year starting major-college PGs I have ever seen. Last season, he was part of perhaps the worst starting major-college backcourt I've ever seen. And I've been closely following college basketball for four decades.As long as an observer does not have the misfortune of being legally blind, he/she does not need ORtg or any other stats to see this stuff. When a PG can neither shoot nor create for teammates, I don't care what stats say.And this isn't meant to dump on Derrick, though I know it looks like that's exactly what I'm doing. It isn't his fault he is what he is, because he sure as heck works hard. It also isn't his fault he plays 30+ mpg.
LOL - Yeah, go check out his awesome posts in the Star Wars thread. MEGA NERD! To each their own of course. Different strokes for different folks. While some of us played with basketballs, others were playing with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker action figures.
Folks, it takes two parties to argue. Juts ignore and move on.
There is no hope of changing people's minds on this issue so ... save the energy and have a beer.