Oso planning to go pro
I can understand why Tubby might conclude that no further punishment is warranted.
Good call, again you cannot read. All of ESPN and there team of analysts and writers I said had no problem with him playing. Im not talking Minnesota people. So, if people with real knowledge have no problem I think its fine Tubby plays him after suspending player after player as it is with transfer after transfer to discipline.
Try, the fact that they cover the situation and do follow ups that you dont do from your couch big guy. Try the fact that all of them at 1 point either played or coached in college basketball so if they have no problems with the fact hes playing it means most of the league more than likely doesnt have a problem with it. So yeah, the knowledge matters.
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I actually thought the Tubby got this one right. Poor decision by TM? Yup. And I expect that Buzz would have handled it differently, which would have been OK with me, too. I just don't think the action is that big of a deal.
Second, do you even comprehend the meaning of a no-contact order?
One should be able to comprehend the meaning simply by being literate.
Her problems? Idk maybe whatever they were that Trevor wrote to her making sure she was doing alright. Did you even read the message he wrote?
Trevor Mbakwe is one of those cautionary tales. Soon enough, he will be forever consigned to the scrap heap of history. His path will be tortured, littered with trouble, and fraught with brushes and scrapes with civil society. What is more disturbing is that Tubby Smith is derelict in his responsibility as a leader. He has the unique opportunity with authority to instruct this young man in what is acceptable behavior. I see this as an essential component of Smith's command obligation and yet he has shirked it in a manner both despicable and disturbing. My world demands accountability; Tubby Smith's should too.
Here's the thing (for me at least): I don't know what happened to lead to the restraining order.Suppose some woman (maybe an ex) was stalking you. She was always showing up at places where you were; calling you at all hours; sitting in her car in front of your house; texting you; emailing you; posting on your FB page; etc. During these contacts all she ever did was tell you how much she loved you; tell you she wants to marry you; beg you to leave your current girlfriend/wife; tell you she can't live without you; say that doesn't know what she might do if she can't have you; etc. Maybe she's been violent, maybe not. Suppose that this went on long enough that you felt that you needed a restraining order so that she would not come near you or contact you any more. What would you do if she posted the following on your FB page: "I know we haven't talked in forever and trust me I'm not trying to start any drama with nobody in your life or anything. I just wanted to wish u the best with everything and I hope all has been well with you and your family. I am still disappointed how everything played out and I do wish that in the future we could be cool again. Idk how u r going to take this msg hopefully its not bad but I just wanted to wish u a happy new year and send out a congrats for graduating. I've been well I'm finally playin bball again in everything down in miami finally got taken care of thank god. Well idk if u will respond or not but best wishes for 2011."I'd think it was a big deal, and I know what I'd do.
Of course they're similar. Both are zero-tolerance situations under the law, and both provide an opportunity for others to apply their own experience and judgement as to whether the actions warranted further sanctions.
So, guilty until proven innocent? If there is even the slightest possibility that Trevor's intentions were not innocent, its wrong for Tubby to conclude that they were?
I'm merely saying that after reading the note myself, I can understand why Tubby might conclude that no further punishment is warranted.
Anyone who thinks this same thing doesn't happen with schools in other conferences is dilusional. See Syracuse and Dievendorf. Coaches 99.5% of the time will find anyway they can to keep a kid playing unless their is action from the ncaa
Agree that this isn't a "Big 10" problem and that many coaches would not have disciplined Mbakwe. Don't agree that the number is 99.5%.
Trevor has already been found guilty--thus the injunction. Posting on Facebook is not illegal. Violating a court order not to do so is. A judge can throw him in the slam in 10 minutes. Think of it this way: A defendant is convicted of a DUI. A judge says he will lessen the sentence if the defendant does not drink for a year. The defendent goes into a bar, drinks and takes a cab home. There is nothing illegal about going into a bar to grab a drink and then taking a cab home. However, a cop sees him in the bar, takes a pciture of him drinking and sends it to the judge who rings him up for violating a court order. No trial will occur--just the judge following through on his origial order via a hearing.
Agree with this. Some may find the "conditions" placed on a defendant found guilty of a crime to be unfair. And some may find what Mbakwe said in his violation of court order to be tame. The fact remains that what he did constituted an arrestable offense. And Mr. Mbakwe and Tubby Smith were both aware that ANY contact with this woman, whether benign or threatening, was considered as such. Wonder why athletes have such a feeling of entitlement? Look no further than how Tubby handled this.
No. They're not. You're not understanding my point. Of course the policies are similar. The differences like in the individuals' standing relative to the law. Whereas the aforementioned school girl acted in ignorance relative to the law, TM acted in defiance of it. Those are two very different scenarios.
No, guilty because there is concrete evidence from his own Facebook account that he's guilty. There's not really a question. No one involved is asserting his innocence. He is NOT innocent. Regardless of his intentions, he knowingly acted in direct violation of law.
Tubby isn't even going that far--he's made no mention over whether Mbakwe should or should not have been hauled off to jail. He's merely stating that he doesn't think additional punishment is warranted based on his interpretation of extenuating circumstances.
So a cop or lawyer is going to tell you if a man should be allowed to play a game of basketball? Rather than the guys who have been around the game there whole lives and seen what has and hasnt gotten people suspended throughout the years?Lots of winners on this board.