Scholarship table
The audience of your message shouldn't be those open protesters, they are either astroturfers or unconvincable no matter what approach/tactic you take. Your audience are the Karen's and Karl's at home who are persuadable. Or the people in this thread that are skeptical but not unreasonable people, etc.I can't do the math, but if 100% compliance yields 75% elimination of transmission then 80% compliance also yields a non-zero reduction in transmission. In this case, half measures make an impact too.
Nah they banned chicos. they banned jb. you kept saying how they were the problem and why you do what you do.But they are gone and you are still doing the same political crap.
When the protestors started in Michigan, I attempted to differentiate between the whack jobs looking for an excuse to carry an AR15 into the capital and those who had reasoned, principled arguments for wanting the quarantining eased. I could make the case that certain additional industries should be allowed to open sooner and totally understood that argument. With masks, it feels like the principled are aligning themselves with the goons. Perhaps out of frustration. I know that I tune out the overweight shaved head guy with the ZZ Top beard waving a rebel flag and his AR15 complaining he is being oppressed. And sadly, for me, allowing that person to be the face of a movement cheapens and weakens and basically neutralizes any principled argument.Because I intellectually understand and have sympathy for the arguments for wanting to reopen. Less so for not wearing masks. And I think that if the masks were more universally embraced, opening would be easier.
But you even see it here. "They told us masks are useless, now they say wear them. Why should I listen to them now?" Has anyone here changed their mind about wearing masks? Doubt it.
Well figured I'd reinforce the concept.
Or, a radical idea, don't respond to it if you think its political. This message board tattletelling and scalp taking has made all the Scoop boards unreadable.I clearly don't agree with some in this thread, which is great. I actually want my mind changed and thoughts challenged, it's how I learn. But all this "look at him look at him, hes being bad" is just an attempt at suppression.
JB wasn’t banned for politics. Reasonably sure Chico’s wasn’t either.
Honest question, how much of the non-mask wearing public do you think fits in the bucket you are describing?
No they were banned for their disruptive behavior and getting threads locked. Exactly like 82.
JB was banned for repeatedly lobbing personal and often crude insults at other Scoopers.
I spoke of three buckets - those making a political statement, those buying into conspiracy theories and those who aren't comfortable with it. I believe the vast majority of the non-mask wearing public falls into one of those categories, with the latter including people who just don't like it. And with some exceptions among the third group (i.e. those who may suffer severe facial irritation something like that), they're all being selfish.Apparently some men don't wear masks because "it's not cool."https://psyarxiv.com/tg7vz?mod=article_inline
Let me re-articulate 1 because I think we're in strong agreement, I just didnt explain well. Over the last several months, the narrative within the media has felt like somehow Coronavirus is unique as a virus, obviously it is unique to some extent, but the feel has been that even the base understanding of how viruses transmit could be undercut by this new virus. What I saying is that the fundamentals are still the fundamentals but that feels like it's been lost in the breathless and sometimes sensational reporting. I mean, we had panic about beaches and parks being open, the fundamentals would say those are some of the safest places to have open.
Have you asked?I will, anyone change their mind on masks? What was your position and why did it change?Edit: I've talked people in real life into wearing a mask. People have a tough time understanding that the mask stops/limits the air droplets the virus depends on for transfer and aren't stopping things at the microscopic level. The number of people who were surprised by the basic science is pretty large....not everyone has the privilege of this board's educational background Edit 2: it's not just the don't wear them no wait now wear them. It's the shut down itself that reinforces the resistance....."well if masks work, why did we have to shut down in the first place?" Lots of mixed messages (which I 100% agree that if Trump wore a mask this would get way better)
The connection you are trying to make here is incorrect, UJ. Maybe you and the dozens of others who routinely make political comments on this "Child Board" would do the same.
I'll stop after this. If you can find political posts I make, that would be great.
Once a person has reached age 75, his/her average life expectancy is another 11 years. Many of those people are very fit, especially for somebody that age. Some are still freakin' working. My parents were still playing tennis well into their 70s. My father-in-law worked until he was 84, still living by himself at 89, and is still in decent shape at 94.Obviously, many 75+ are not in good health, but the notion that these folks are "disposable" is sickening.Not saying you were insinuating that, WD/chicos/hoopaloop.
I also worry if touching the mask when taking on and off will cause me to touch Covid germs on my mask and get on my face. I’m not totally sure if that’s a reasonable fear, but has made me hesitant to put on a mask if it’s a quick trip somewhere.
That is something i worry about as well
Wash/sterilize your hands immediately before and after you remove your mask and you're good to go
I keep hand sanitizer in the car and the first thing I do after taking my mask off is hand sanitize.
If you take your mask off then wash your hands or sanitize your hands with a wipe that worry can be lessened.