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Author Topic: 2022-2023 NFL Season  (Read 126004 times)

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1900 on: December 26, 2022, 09:35:37 PM »
Gotta shut Tua down at this point
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1901 on: December 26, 2022, 09:37:36 PM »
Tua’s stats pre/post concussion yesterday are pretty striking (no pun intended).

I have no idea if the outcome of that game yesterday changes or what, but that definitely should have been spotted. Seeing the replay and knowing the player has a recent history of concussions, he should have been out of the game.

Darn, that sucks for Tua. He's had some brutal situations this season. I wish it didn't happen, obviously, but it helps explain why he looked so bad.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1902 on: December 26, 2022, 09:47:53 PM »
Bears are going to be set no matter what. You can stay and take your pick of Carter or Anderson, or trade back, recoup many years' of draft capital and still end up with an impact player (possibly still one of those two). The Colts would make an attractive trade partner

One thing I think the Bears should entertain is buying draft picks, and I think Indianapolis is a great team to work with in that regard.

Matt Ryan’s deal is up after 2023, and he has a $10M roster bonus due 3/17. If the Bears took on Ryan’s contract in early March for a 2nd & 5th, and then released him before 3/17, everyone (Ryan loses $10M) wins. Indy simply loses two picks, it costs the Bears $18M in cap space they have to burn anyway.

For me, if the Bears trade down, whoever is at #4 would be the ideal trade partner to get Carter and get additional picks.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1903 on: December 26, 2022, 09:55:24 PM »
Per Jeff Legwold (who knows 99% less about the NFL than GB Warrior)
 "With the wealthiest ownership group in the NFL as well as a fan base passionate enough, even now, to have given the Broncos a home sellout streak that dates back to 1970, the Broncos' head-coaching role will be an attractive job."


So the writer paid to write about the Broncos is drumming up the Broncos open head coaching position? Shocking!

What makes the position attractive (other than selling out the stadium, which probably means the fanbase expects winning football, and given they’re one of the worst rosters in the league and don’t have their first or second round picks either of the next two years isn’t a great way to change that…)?
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1904 on: December 27, 2022, 12:38:53 AM »
I think the Bronco's were obligated to fire their coach when they get roasted by Patrick Squid live....

Funny:  https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1607134599842533376?s=20&t=B82zRzRe9Uo-vJ-rnv_Ehw

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1905 on: December 27, 2022, 05:54:36 AM »
So the writer paid to write about the Broncos is drumming up the Broncos open head coaching position? Shocking!

What makes the position attractive (other than selling out the stadium, which probably means the fanbase expects winning football, and given they’re one of the worst rosters in the league and don’t have their first or second round picks either of the next two years isn’t a great way to change that…)?


And having a wealthy ownership group really doesn't mean much in the NFL because your limitation is the cap.  Anyway, I still think Miami where Ross wanted him last year. I always thought McDaniel was just a cheap, one-year rental. He will be the fall guy for Tua playing with concussion issues.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1906 on: December 27, 2022, 06:00:49 AM »
The Colts cleaned house after seven games, when they were 3-3-1. Under Saturday, the Colts have gone 1-7.

The current division leader is under .500.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1907 on: December 27, 2022, 07:14:35 AM »
The Colts cleaned house after seven games, when they were 3-3-1. Under Saturday, the Colts have gone 1-7.

The current division leader is under .500.

Great result!

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1908 on: December 27, 2022, 08:22:46 AM »

And having a wealthy ownership group really doesn't mean much in the NFL because your limitation is the cap.  Anyway, I still think Miami where Ross wanted him last year. I always thought McDaniel was just a cheap, one-year rental. He will be the fall guy for Tua playing with concussion issues.

I think that would be incredibly dumb, given what McDaniel has shown so far, but then again…it’s Stephen Ross.

Adding Hill helps tremendously, sure, but he’s completely remade that offense with average RBs and made Tua look way better than he actually is until the last few weeks.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1909 on: December 27, 2022, 08:46:22 AM »
Panthers playoff tickets go on sale in about an hour.

Be patient, everybody, there are plenty available!
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1910 on: December 27, 2022, 09:00:47 AM »
The rumor about a month ago was that Payton was angling for the Chargers job. However,  I don't see the Spanos dumping Staley after the making the playoffs.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1911 on: December 27, 2022, 09:06:00 AM »
One thing I think the Bears should entertain is buying draft picks, and I think Indianapolis is a great team to work with in that regard.

Matt Ryan’s deal is up after 2023, and he has a $10M roster bonus due 3/17. If the Bears took on Ryan’s contract in early March for a 2nd & 5th, and then released him before 3/17, everyone (Ryan loses $10M) wins. Indy simply loses two picks, it costs the Bears $18M in cap space they have to burn anyway.

For me, if the Bears trade down, whoever is at #4 would be the ideal trade partner to get Carter and get additional picks.

Agree completely on buying picks with the cap space. It's a better option than overpaying mediocre talent in the free agent pool.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1912 on: December 27, 2022, 09:58:05 AM »
So the writer paid to write about the Broncos is drumming up the Broncos open head coaching position? Shocking!

What makes the position attractive (other than selling out the stadium, which probably means the fanbase expects winning football, and given they’re one of the worst rosters in the league and don’t have their first or second round picks either of the next two years isn’t a great way to change that…)?
I did not know Legwold was a shill for the Broncos. I stand corrected.

I think the Broncos are an upper tier team in the league based upon history, fan support, ownership, facilities and a lot of former Broncos stay in Denver due to business opportunities. But I do agree the present state of the team is not great good.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1913 on: December 27, 2022, 10:55:35 AM »
The rumor about a month ago was that Payton was angling for the Chargers job. However,  I don't see the Spanos dumping Staley after the making the playoffs.

Yea their turnaround has been remarkable.  They should be heavy favorites to win out and finish 11-6.  Amazing that if they didn’t gift the Raiders two short field TDs in the 3rd quarter a couple weeks ago, they’d be on track for a 12 win season.

They’ve got a top 10 defense, he’s put the pieces in place to keep developing Herbert into a star (bringing in Lombardi as OC, getting Chase Daniel who is a great mentor backup), all while still learning to overcome his propensity for trying to outthink himself and be too cute.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1914 on: December 27, 2022, 06:54:40 PM »
JJ Watt announces retirement.

During his first year of play with the Texans I remember Wade Phillips quote on Watt:  "He is going to be a bust"
Was Wade channeling Mel Kiper on draft day? Was JJ that bad? No, no....it meant already as a rookie Phillips thought JJ would have a bust in the HOF. He was that good.

Best Texan player on Defense ever (Andre Johnson on offense).Next to Lawrence Taylor JJ's 5 year peak run was the best individual defensive play I witnessed in the last 55 years. The next best we will remember of him and why Houston will always love the guy was JJ's community and charity involvement. It was real and consistent. He started a fund for Hurricane Harvey with his own
$100 k and hoped it would be matched....it raised $41 million...the most by an internet funding campaign ever. Walter Payton award winner

We knew he gave it all here and as Texans were floundering, he was released after ten years to find a competitive team on his own. Cardinals were an interesting pick. Heck Texans helped Cards by sending D Hopkins there for a backup running back (Thanks Bill Obrien) Too bad he never got a Superbowl

Thanks for your star on and off the field...you did Pewaukee proud
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1915 on: December 27, 2022, 11:48:47 PM »
JJ Watt is a decent dude and very charitable, but I’m SHOCKED he took this retirement path and not a corny full year documentary, preferably with a Fort Minor soundtrack.

Incredible player at his peak, first ballot HOFer, but man JJ has always LOVED the JJ story and brand

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1916 on: December 28, 2022, 05:31:54 AM »
JJ Watt is a decent dude and very charitable, but I’m SHOCKED he took this retirement path and not a corny full year documentary, preferably with a Fort Minor soundtrack.

Incredible player at his peak, first ballot HOFer, but man JJ has always LOVED the JJ story and brand

That whole family can get shot to the moon
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1917 on: December 28, 2022, 11:57:45 AM »
JJ Watt is a decent dude and very charitable, but I’m SHOCKED he took this retirement path and not a corny full year documentary, preferably with a Fort Minor soundtrack.

Incredible player at his peak, first ballot HOFer, but man JJ has always LOVED the JJ story and brand

lol you're right

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1918 on: December 28, 2022, 07:51:51 PM »
Derek Carr as a Raider appears over
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1919 on: December 28, 2022, 09:58:33 PM »
Derek Carr as a Raider appears over

So if the Raiders cut Carr, he'd simply be a free agent and any team that wants to sign him would be starting over -- not bound by his current contract at all. Right?

It will be interesting to see what he'd fetch on the open market. He regressed this season, but he was pretty darn good in 2021, and he's only 31 years old.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1920 on: December 28, 2022, 10:12:06 PM »
Carr to Giants?

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1921 on: December 28, 2022, 11:08:38 PM »
I wonder if Brady goes to Vegas next season.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1922 on: December 29, 2022, 12:30:31 AM »
So if the Raiders cut Carr, he'd simply be a free agent and any team that wants to sign him would be starting over -- not bound by his current contract at all. Right?

It will be interesting to see what he'd fetch on the open market. He regressed this season, but he was pretty darn good in 2021, and he's only 31 years old.

Yep.  And given that the Raiders owe him $116MM over the next 3 seasons, taking the $41MM hit to close out the rest of his guaranteed money isn’t a terrible outcome.

And I agree, he’s been a solid to very good QB throughout his career.  Shocking that notable coaching cancer Josh McDaniels shows up and suddenly he regresses to his worst stats in 6+ years…

I wonder if Brady goes to Vegas next season.

God I’d love that.  46 year old Brady with no arm strength playing for McDaniels who has only poisoned QBs as a HC

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1923 on: December 29, 2022, 08:40:28 AM »
The Raiders are always fun. But if Brady goes to Vegas, he’ll have more luck at the casinos than on the field.

McDaniels should always have a job in the NFL. People love watching a train wreck.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #1924 on: December 29, 2022, 09:04:08 AM »
Yep.  And given that the Raiders owe him $116MM over the next 3 seasons, taking the $41MM hit to close out the rest of his guaranteed money isn’t a terrible outcome.

And I agree, he’s been a solid to very good QB throughout his career.  Shocking that notable coaching cancer Josh McDaniels shows up and suddenly he regresses to his worst stats in 6+ years…

God I’d love that.  46 year old Brady with no arm strength playing for McDaniels who has only poisoned QBs as a HC

As far as I'm concerned the salary cap is pure calvinball. It means everything and nothing simultaneously. You say hit of $41M, this writer says $5.6M. Who knows!

https://theathletic.com/4042142/2022/12/29/derek-carr-raiders-nfl-trade/

"The other part of that reality is that sitting Carr, who signed a three-year, $121.5 million contract last offseason, eliminates the risk of him getting injured, potentially ruining his trade value as well as putting the team on the hook for $40.4 million over the next two years due to injury guarantees in his contract. Instead, the Raiders can move on from a healthy Carr this offseason while incurring a minimal dead cap hit of about $5.6 million."