2022-2023 NFL Season

[MU82]

All on the Panthers' dime.

Well, almost all. According to ESPN:

The Cardinals will take on Anderson's $575,000 salary for the rest of the year, while the Panthers -- who restructured his contract in March -- will take a $20 million dead-cap hit spread across this season and next.

The Charlotte Observer said:

The trade creates roughly $9.7 million in dead cap money for the Panthers over the next two years. However, the Panthers are off the hook for Anderson’s $12 million salary in 2023. Anderson is set to make $8.8 million in base salary next year with another $3.2 million coming through roster bonuses.

Not sure what's right because I don't follow that stuff.

But yes, it sucks that the Panthers basically have to pay to give this clown away. His act wore thin last season, and it's only gotten worse. It happens. We were gonna go 2-15 or 3-14 with him; might as well do it without him.

[Uncle Rico]

Commandos lose Wentz.  Probably a long term win

[RJax55]

Commandos lose Wentz.  Probably a long term win

Short term too. Wentz is terrible.

[Jockey]

While Rodgers deserves some of the blame for GB's performance, it is the offensive line that has stunk up the place. As bad as any line in the league - including the Bears. The Bears Stout duo on the right side of thew line 0 Jenkins and Borom - are better that the right side of the Packers line.

According to ESPN Analytics, the Packers ranked 20th in pass-block win rate and 24th in run-block win rate entering Week 6, before their struggles against the Jets who had four sacks, nine quarterback hits and 15 pressures.


Fields takes so many sacks because he can't read a defense and holds the ball forever. Rodgers gets hammered despite getting rid of the ball at the 2nd quickest rate in the league.


Meanwhile the defense is a bottom third of the league squad. Absolutely terrible against the run and they have no clue how to get takeaways ranking near the bottom of the league - only the Raiders and Commanders take the ball away less. There is no aggressiveness whatsoever as we see by the totally passive play of the DBs.

[wadesworld]

While Rodgers deserves some of the blame for GB's performance, it is the offensive line that has stunk up the place. As bad as any line in the league - including the Bears. The Bears Stout duo on the right side of thew line 0 Jenkins and Borom - are better that the right side of the Packers line.

According to ESPN Analytics, the Packers ranked 20th in pass-block win rate and 24th in run-block win rate entering Week 6, before their struggles against the Jets who had four sacks, nine quarterback hits and 15 pressures.


Fields takes so many sacks because he can't read a defense and holds the ball forever. Rodgers gets hammered despite getting rid of the ball at the 2nd quickest rate in the league.


Meanwhile the defense is a bottom third of the league squad. Absolutely terrible against the run and they have no clue how to get takeaways ranking near the bottom of the league - only the Raiders and Commanders take the ball away less. There is no aggressiveness whatsoever as we see by the totally passive play of the DBs.

Where are you finding bottom 3rd defense?

[Jockey]

Where are you finding bottom 3rd defense?

Look at DVOA this week. If you know what that is.

[wadesworld]

Look at DVOA this week. If you know what that is.

Okay!

[DegenerateDish]

This MNF game has been really terribly played and coached. Other than that it’s been great.

[Jockey]

Fitting.

Neither team is good enough to make a play to win.

Takes a mistake to score.

[MU82]

This MNF game has been really terribly played and coached. Other than that it’s been great.

Russell Effen Wilson. Not many QBs have had such a significant decline in such a short period of time.

[forgetful]

Russell Effen Wilson. Not many QBs have had such a significant decline in such a short period of time.

Matt Stafford says hi. Super bowl MVP last year, and in the running for MVP. He's doing his best Joey Harrington impression this season.

[Uncle Rico]

Matt Stafford says high. Super bowl MVP last year, and in the running for MVP. He's doing his best Joey Harrington impression this season.

Bad o-lines help precipitate declines

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Russell Effen Wilson. Not many QBs have had such a significant decline in such a short period of time.

I actually think he was a bit overrated.  He benefitted greatly from a strong running game and his legs. And when both of those fell off, he didn't really have the abilities to win games consistently with his arm.

And I said this earlier, but he was old when he got into the league - a 24 year old rookie.

[RJax55]

This MNF game has been really terribly played and coached. Other than that it’s been great.

For the most part, the quality of play in NFL this season has not been great. I do wonder if the insane coaching carousal of the last few years is really starting to diminish the product. I'm not sure that turning over 25-30% of your HCs every off-season is a recipe for league-wide success. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I actually think he was a bit greatly overrated. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

For the most part, the quality of play in NFL this season has not been great. I do wonder if the insane coaching carousal of the last few years is really starting to diminish the product. I'm not sure that turning over 25-30% of your HCs every off-season is a recipe for league-wide success. 

That and I think teams don't go as full out as they used to during training camp.

[Uncle Rico]

That and I think teams don't go as full out as they used to during training camp.

Piggy-backing on what you and RJax are getting at, the most glaring thing is just how bad offensive line play has been across a lot of the NFL. 

I know there is criticism from people in the nfl about colleges not developing QBs that are NFL ready, but I’m starting to wonder about o-line development at the college level.

[MU82]

I actually think he was a bit overrated.  He benefitted greatly from a strong running game and his legs. And when both of those fell off, he didn't really have the abilities to win games consistently with his arm.

And I said this earlier, but he was old when he got into the league - a 24 year old rookie.

That's all reasonable. I did see him engineer some pretty incredible comebacks with his arm, though, including a few against decent Panthers teams.

Bad o-lines help precipitate declines

As is that. Tough to excel (or even be OK) when getting bludgeoned.

[tower912]

Stafford's production is nearly always tied to the amount of times he gets put on the ground.

[Jockey]

Early season scoring down almost 10 points a game from just 2 years ago.

[WhiteTrash]

Early season scoring down almost 10 points a game from just 2 years ago.

Not enough protection for the QBs by the league,

[forgetful]

Early season scoring down almost 10 points a game from just 2 years ago.

QB play has been quite subpar across the league. Only 4 QBs (Tagovailoa, Allen, Smith, and Mahomes) have a RTG above 100.

[MUBurrow]

Man, if the allegation is true that the NFL leaked the witness report for their WFT investigation to Dan Snyder, that's the most reprehensible thing yet.

Edit: Edit to say that if true, it also lends further credibility into the reporting that Snyder has dirt on Goodell imo.

[Jockey]

Man, if the allegation is true that the NFL leaked the witness report for their WFT investigation to Dan Snyder, that's the most reprehensible thing yet.

Edit: Edit to say that if true, it also lends further credibility into the reporting that Snyder has dirt on Goodell imo.

Many, many layers to this. Snyder still owns the team because he does have plenty of dirt - whether it be on Goodell or other owners. ecexutives, etc. (lookin' at you, Mr. Jones).

Going back to Gruden, there was no reason for the NFL to leak the emails, but there certainly was for Snyder to release them.

From an ESPN article a couple days ago:
DAN SNYDER DOES this thing when he feels cornered, say those who know him well. He paces in a hotel suite, or on his superyacht, or at River View, his $48 million Virginia estate. Cradling a drink in one hand, he tells members of his inner circle about the dirt he has accumulated on fellow owners, coaches, executives, even his own employees -- all the stuff he's learned from other sources, including private investigative firms. He never says exactly what he knows, only that in his 23 years as owner of the Washington Commanders, he knows a lot. And that in the zero-sum world of billionaires, this is how you survive. Snyder recently told a close associate that he has gathered enough secrets to "blow up" several NFL owners, the league office and even commissioner Roger Goodell.

[tower912]

Early season scoring down almost 10 points a game from just 2 years ago.

Despite the best efforts of the Lion defense.