2022-2023 NFL Season

[Hards Alumni]

Talent around Fields is bad, but most of the things you guys are mentioning are coaching issues.

[tower912]

He will put up 28 against Detroit.

[MuggsyB]

There are a myriad of issues with the Bears but I think Fields has had a significant sample size.  That missed td throw in the end zone just can't happen.  Perfect play call, the guy is wide open, and you overthrow him by 5 yards on a 10 yard pass?  Can't happen.  He also holds onto the ball too long and often makes the wrong decision where to go with the ball.  There's also the problem that he continues to get decked and this won't end well for him if it continues.   He's a tremendous athlete, and doesn't have much around him, but in order to turn the corner his decision making has to be made faster and with more confidence.

[RJax55]

Yea thats the frustrating part.  He's not in a position to succeed, but he's still failing where he can.  He played a much better second half, but his first half was brutal.  Decision making/timing is something many young QBs struggle with making the jump to the NFL, but its hard to see him making the jump and improving on that in his current situation.

He's a smart and effective runner, its great to see him slide instead of getting maimed.  He's making more and more good throws, changing arm and delivery angles, his deep ball is looking nice.  But he's missing touch throws and not seeing developing routes, its all for naught.

I don't agree that its a good season to make an evaluation cause he's in such a brutal surrounding talent situation, but he's not earned benefit of the doubt with a lot of his play.  With all due respect, the idea that the Bears "aren't bad" outside of Fields struggling is absolute insanity.  Outside of decent RBs and Mooney, who is a good WR2/3 not a WR1, there are zero play makers, the line is atrocious, and the defense is suspect outside of the secondary.

Oh, the talent on the Bears is horrible. Both OL and DL are brutal. As you state, only the secondary and RBs rooms are any good. But, I would argue that QB play has to be at the top of their concerns. It has to be. The position is too important.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree with you. I truly hope Fields gets better but it seems less likely each week. This is a good season to make an evaluation; little is expected of the team so the losses don't matter. The Bears are 2-3 years away from being competitive, so a reset at QB is not a killer. And, it has been stated before, that the current staff has no connection to him so moving on will be easy since they will not be blamed for his failure.

Not having to pay Fields at year 5 if he doesn’t develop helps the salary cap but you still need to find a QB and if they have to trade for one again, they’ll still be chasing their tail

[Uncle Rico]

He will put up 28 against Detroit.

Those are the kind of Pyrrhic victories Bears fans and FO have celebrated the last decade or so.  If this FO does that, they’re doomed to be stuck in mediocrity

[RJax55]

Talent around Fields is bad, but most of the things you guys are mentioning are coaching issues.

Coaching can only do so much. The concern I have is even when the coaches are putting Fields in a good spot, the plays are not being made. The play Rico mentioned is a perfect example and examples like that show up far too often.

[MU82]

QBs are like PGs. Yes, they can improve and should improve over time. But the really good ones -- and definitely the great ones -- have innate abilities to anticipate what's going to happen and where teammates are going to be, make quick decisions, and execute well.

I don't know why anybody would conclude, given the sample size, that Fields has it.

Through repetition, study and coaching, can he be a serviceable NFL QB who can commit fewer turnovers, scare teams with his feet and occasionally make plays with his arm? I suppose. But there are very few teams who win anything worthwhile with serviceable QBs. For every Trent Dilfer, who managed once to not screw things up, there are a zillion "OK" QBs who never get there. And Fields still has a long way to get to "OK."

[Jockey]

Talent around Fields is bad, but most of the things you guys are mentioning are coaching issues.

I disagree. Fields being unable to read defenses - a la Trubisky - is on him, not the coaches. It is a skill that Fields does not possess.

[Hards Alumni]

I disagree. Fields being unable to read defenses - a la Trubisky - is on him, not the coaches. It is a skill that Fields does not possess.

You're trying to tell me that it is difficult to read defenses?  Or are you saying the coaches aren't able to teach how to?

A TON of bonehead QBs could read defenses.

[4everwarriors]

Peddle Love ta da Bears, hey?

[MUBurrow]

Talent around Fields is bad, but most of the things you guys are mentioning are coaching issues.

I missed most of the first half, which sounds like it was by far worse for Fields than the second half. But at least from the second half, I saw as many issues around Fields - drops, guys not running to the sticks, blown protections - as I saw things that I would pin on him.

[WhiteTrash]

Peddle Love ta da Bears, hey?

Ha, right?

Serious question, since you brought him up, would any team trade for Love? Obviously it would be for a single 7-8 round pick, but is he worth that even?

[Hards Alumni]

Ha, right?

Serious question, since you brought him up, would any team trade for Love? Obviously it would be for a single 7-8 round pick, but is he worth that even?

IMO, he is worth more than that.  Serviceable in the preseason.

[Jockey]

You're trying to tell me that it is difficult to read defenses?  Or are you saying the coaches aren't able to teach how to?

A TON of bonehead QBs could read defenses.

I am saying it is a skill that a QB has or doesn’t have. It is difficult to read defenses and it is not something that can be taught by coaches. Refined? Yes. But not taught. It’s about how his brain is wired. Think teaching math to a kid who has no aptitude for math. You just go in circles trying to teach it.

Trubisky has a lot of physical skills and he seems like a pretty bright guy. But he does not have the skill of reading defenses. Nagy couldn’t teach him and Tomlin can’t teach him.

Fields takes more time in the pocket because he has no idea what he is looking at as a play progresses.

[4everwarriors]

He's worth a kickin' tee and a used Bike, hey?

[wadesworld]

Ha, right?

Serious question, since you brought him up, would any team trade for Love? Obviously it would be for a single 7-8 round pick, but is he worth that even?

Yes, I'm thinking teams would give up their 8th rounder for Love.

[Hards Alumni]

Yes, I'm thinking teams would give up their 8th rounder for Love.

QB play in the NFL has been pretty awful, so someone would probably take a flyer.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I'd love to see the Bears continue to trade draft picks to take a QB in the first round every 3-4 years.

Bears might be so bad that they don't have to can't trade up in the draft to get a QB.

[jesmu84]

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[JWags85]

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See that to me didn't seem like an inability to read the defense.  He was cocked back ready to make that throw.  That looked like holding the ball too long/timing, and a lack of confidence in either himself or his OL.

Its still bad.  Its missing throws you need/want your QB to make, but the nuance is relevant

[Jockey]

See that to me didn't seem like an inability to read the defense.  He was cocked back ready to make that throw.  That looked like holding the ball too long/timing, and a lack of confidence in either himself or his OL.

Its still bad.  Its missing throws you need/want your QB to make, but the nuance is relevant

I disagree, Wags. I think he was unable to read the defensive deployment to know that he was open. He’s not gonna get receivers in the NFL that are “Ohio State open”. And if I’m not mistaken, I believe that was his 1st read.

If not for his running ability, he would already be considered a complete bust.


I might add that I am rooting for Fields. He seems like a great young man and I would love to see the Packers - Bears rivalry resurrected. But I don’t see it.

[MU82]

Yes, I'm thinking teams would give up their 8th rounder for Love.

I was thinking 9th or 10th rounder. But no lower than 13th.

[DegenerateDish]

There’s little to no difference between Atlanta/New Orleans/Tampa.

You could convince me Tampa is the worst of the three.

[MU82]

There’s little to no difference between Atlanta/New Orleans/Tampa.

You could convince me Tampa is the worst of the three.

Yeah, the division's there for the taking this season. The Panthers picked a bad year to have (another) bad year.