The Official Cubs Win The World Series Thread

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Often overlooked is that Arrieta wasn't even an All-Star in 2015. On June 16 he had a respectable but unspectacular 3.40 ERA. From May 25 thru the end of the 2016 regular season his ERA was 3.95.  He had a historic second half of 2015. He isn't a Cy Young candidate in 2016.

Honestly, I think that Theo and FO have their doubt about whether he's going to be able to keep it up long-term, which is why they have been a bit hesitant about a contract extension. He's still under team control thru 2017 but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's wearing a different uni when 2018 begins.

I agree that next season will likely be his last as a Cub based on what he is going to want and what another team will likely pay him. 

The rotation will have a very different look come 2018.  Lester, Hendricks, probably Montgomery and then who knows. 

[jesmu84]

Based on this current argument, is Kluber juicing?

[wadesworld]

Based on this current argument, is Kluber juicing?

1) Wouldn't surprise me but 2) he didn't go from a guy with a career ERA of well over 5 to suddenly below half of that in one season. He's pretty much been a stud since his first full season in the MLB. So another comparison that doesn't hold up.

[MerrittsMustache]

1) Wouldn't surprise me but 2) he didn't go from a guy with a career ERA of well over 5 to suddenly below half of that in one season. He's pretty much been a stud since his first full season in the MLB. So another comparison that doesn't hold up.

What about Junior Guerra?

[wadesworld]

What about Junior Guerra?

Yeah I'd be surprised if he didn't take PEDs somewhere along the way.

[jesmu84]

1) Wouldn't surprise me but 2) he didn't go from a guy with a career ERA of well over 5 to suddenly below half of that in one season. He's pretty much been a stud since his first full season in the MLB. So another comparison that doesn't hold up.

Fair. I just remember talk of him begin rather mundane in the minors before he decided to not throw his fastball (as he couldn't control it) and focused on his pitches with movement. Since then, apparently, he's been much, much better.

I was just pointing out that a mechanical or pitch type change can effect someone's stats/success.

[brandx]

1) Wouldn't surprise me but 2) he didn't go from a guy with a career ERA of well over 5 to suddenly below half of that in one season. He's pretty much been a stud since his first full season in the MLB. So another comparison that doesn't hold up.

Yeah, but he had an ERA around 4.50 in the minors, so it's obvious what he did to become a good major leaguer.

[wadesworld]

Yeah, but he had an ERA around 4.50 in the minors, so it's obvious what he did to become a good major leaguer.

Was he in the minors until he was 28 or...?

[MerrittsMustache]

Was he in the minors until he was 28 or...?

In 2013, at age 27, he went back and forth between AAA and the Majors.

[wadesworld]

In 2013, at age 27, he went back and forth between AAA and the Majors.

He made 2 starts in the minors.  He made 24 starts in the MLB with a 3.85 ERA.

[MerrittsMustache]

He made 2 starts in the minors.  He made 24 starts in the MLB with a 3.85 ERA.

My bad. I thought you were still talking about Arrieta.

I assume this is in reference to Kluber.

[wadesworld]

My bad. I thought you were still talking about Arrieta.

I assume this is in reference to Kluber.

Ahh gotcha. Yes I meant Kluber. Not sure if Kluber's 2 starts in the minors were rehab starts or not. My guess would be yes because he had a solid season that year but I don't really know.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Three more wins.

[Henry Sugar]

Three more wins.

FWIW - I've been enjoying these.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Can't believe it's finally here. I'm fortunate enough to get to go today and Sunday. Watching Saturday may be an issue as I refuse to pay those ridiculous covers.

[MerrittsMustache]

Can't believe it's finally here. I'm fortunate enough to get to go today and Sunday. Watching Saturday may be an issue as I refuse to pay those ridiculous covers.

I actually think that the "ridiculous covers" make a lot of sense (aside from the supply and demand aspect). For the NLCS, the Wrigleyville bars were complete madhouses, not to mention they had to have been well over capacity. From what I've heard, people couldn't move around, couldn't get to the bathrooms, couldn't get a drink, etc. It was just a mass of humanity in tight quarters. The covers should deter people from coming and make the experience much more enjoyable for those who are willing to pay it.

[Spotcheck Billy]

the only problem I have with the Cubs is that they grow up to be Bears

[Coleman]

I actually think that the "ridiculous covers" make a lot of sense (aside from the supply and demand aspect). For the NLCS, the Wrigleyville bars were complete madhouses, not to mention they had to have been well over capacity. From what I've heard, people couldn't move around, couldn't get to the bathrooms, couldn't get a drink, etc. It was just a mass of humanity in tight quarters. The covers should deter people from coming and make the experience much more enjoyable for those who are willing to pay it.

I was in Wrigleyville for the NLCS, and it honestly wasn't that bad, once you were in the bar. Fire code prevented it from getting too packed. The bigger issue was getting in, having to wait in line outside. They are just changing the model from rewarding people who are willing to wait to rewarding people willing to pony up a buck. I guess I don't have a huge problem with it, but the in-bar experience will be the exact same. And I'm not paying $150 to stand in a crowded bar. But to each their own.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I actually think that the "ridiculous covers" make a lot of sense (aside from the supply and demand aspect). For the NLCS, the Wrigleyville bars were complete madhouses, not to mention they had to have been well over capacity. From what I've heard, people couldn't move around, couldn't get to the bathrooms, couldn't get a drink, etc. It was just a mass of humanity in tight quarters. The covers should deter people from coming and make the experience much more enjoyable for those who are willing to pay it.

I understand it from a business perspective.  I just think it sucks. 

[warriorchick]

I understand it from a business perspective.  I just think it sucks.

You might not have heard....you can also watch it from the comfort of your own home...

[Vander Blue Man Group]

You might not have heard....you can also watch it from the comfort of your own home...

Where'd you hear this?  Are people talking about this?  That's tremendous. 

I just really enjoy the atmosphere of being in a crowd for such a big game.  I'm willing to get my ass up early tomorrow to go wait in line somewhere.  Picking the right spot will be tough. 

[robmufan]

Was just sent a tweet from someone saying Murphys is One in One out already...tomorrow will prob be earlier being the weekend.

Good luck to those that brave the masses!

[HansMoleman]

Three more wins.

[MUEng92]

30-40 mph winds blowing out?  It might be a replay of the 23-22 game against the Phillies in the early 80's.

[brandx]

30-40 mph winds blowing out?  It might be a replay of the 23-22 game against the Phillies in the early 80's.

Strangely, the Phillies only used 5 pitchers in the game.

Could have been a lot worse. Phillies only scored 2 runs in the final 5 innings.