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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 07, 2013, 01:07:19 PM
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Might as well start it. With that being said. Roll Tide! Hope the Domers get absolutely demolished. The only thing I asked for this christmas was a Alabama T-shirt which I am wearing proudly right now.
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Anyone have any action on the game? I feel like I should lay something, but I can't decide which side I like.
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Anyone have any action on the game? I feel like I should lay something, but I can't decide which side I like.
I would just be the under (43), and if you can find 10, take the points.
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Bama is the better team and should cover but in a low scoring game with a big number, you never know. Definitely take the under.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Bama 24-10
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Anyone have any action on the game? I feel like I should lay something, but I can't decide which side I like.
I took Bama -10.5. Reason being they have been there before, tougher schedule.
I also took the under, which was 41.5 at the time. Reason, both defenses average like 14 per game.
We'll see. Just a throw of the dice.
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Haha, so everyone's on the under which means I should take the over, eh? I'll probably just pass completely.
It will be interesting to see how each QB plays. Golson has always done enough to win, but he's no Johnny Football. And AJ McCarron hasn't exactly set the world on fire against quality competition.
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Bama is the better team and should cover but in a low scoring game with a big number, you never know. Definitely take the under.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Bama 24-10
This Irish team reminds me of the 2002 Ohio State team that needed 4th quarter comebacks to beat unranked teams from Cincy, Wisconsin, and Purdue and barely slipped by Penn State, Illinois, and Michigan. That team felt like a pretender all year long and somehow beat Miami for the national championship. I really hope the ND story ends differently, but they seem like the kind of pretender team that just isn't that good yet somehow pulls a golden turd out of their asses.
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Haha, so everyone's on the under which means I should take the over, eh? I'll probably just pass completely.
It will be interesting to see how each QB plays. Golson has always done enough to win, but he's no Johnny Football. And AJ McCarron hasn't exactly set the world on fire against quality competition.
In all fairness, he was really, really good in last year's BCS title game.
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SEC a bit down this year. Anything can happen. My mind says Bama by 10 in a 20 to 10 game, but who knows.
I'm not a ND fan, but for as much crap as they take I want them to win. People rag on them all the time but they have smart kids, good kids (most of them), and their program compared to most is very clean (yes, there are exceptions).
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Tonight will be the first time I have rooted for ND in 30 years, which means they are sure to lose.
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SEC a bit down this year.
Six teams in the top 10 of the BCS standings is a down year?
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Six teams in the top 10 of the BCS standings is a down year?
Yes. I think Saban will tell you flat out last year's Bama team is better than this year's. Florida, ugly football team that isn't the third best team in the country. LSU won ugly all year. It doesn't mean the SEC isn't still the best, they clearly are. In comparison to years past, however, to my eye they are not quite as strong, thus down. I'm comparing to previous years.
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Six teams in the top 10 of the BCS standings is a down year?
True, but other than Texas A&M, those teams have been fairly unimpressive during the bowl season.
Florida and LSU both lost. While Georgia and South Carolina, played tougher than expected games against the inferior Big Ten.
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Yes. I think Saban will tell you flat out last year's Bama team is better than this year's. Florida, ugly football team that isn't the third best team in the country. LSU won ugly all year. It doesn't mean the SEC isn't still the best, they clearly are. In comparison to years past, however, to my eye they are not quite as strong, thus down. I'm comparing to previous years.
Relative to the SEC of past years, they're down.
Relative to the rest of college football, they're still far and away the best. The gap between the conferences hasn't narrowed. The level of talent in college football as a whole seems "down" this year (hence, a redshirt freshman wins the Heisman and his closest competitor is a linebacker).
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Relative to the SEC of past years, they're down.
Relative to the rest of college football, they're still far and away the best. The gap between the conferences hasn't narrowed. The level of talent in college football as a whole seems "down" this year (hence, a redshirt freshman wins the Heisman and his closest competitor is a linebacker).
Exactly. Not all top 10s are created equal.
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True, but other than Texas A&M, those teams have been fairly unimpressive during the bowl season.
Florida and LSU both lost. While Georgia and South Carolina, played tougher than expected games against the inferior Big Ten.
I'm not sure bowl results are the best way to measure a conference's strength. For a school like Georgia or LSU that starts the season with national title aspirations, playing in a second-tier bowl that has no real significance several weeks after their last game that matters has to be a letdown. A better measure probably are the regular season nonconference matchups that have some real bearing on BCS standings.
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Relative to the SEC of past years, they're down.
Relative to the rest of college football, they're still far and away the best. The gap between the conferences hasn't narrowed. The level of talent in college football as a whole seems "down" this year (hence, a redshirt freshman wins the Heisman and his closest competitor is a linebacker).
Yup, I think that's basically what I said, they're still the best, just not as good as they used to be. Whether the gap has closed, I don't know, but I definitely believe they are down respective of the SEC of the past.
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I don't think any team in the country is as good as Alabama or LSU was last year. But the top half of the SEC as a whole is as good as it has ever been (granted the addition of Texas A&M this year is a factor). It gets softer after that, and Auburn and Kentucky were horrible this year but there are always a couple of bad teams at the bottom. Ole Miss and Vanderbilt were actually fairly respectable this year and both won their bowl games.
I agree that bowl games are a poor indicator of conference strength since the matchups and motivation are skewed. The WAC and C-USA are a combined 6-1. However, for those saying that the SEC's performance this year shows that they are down as a conference, if Bama wins tonight the SEC will be 6-3 this bowl season, better than the SEC's .607 winning percentage from 2000-2009.
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Im done with betting football for the year. College ball season! Roll Tide!
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Anyone know where I can stream the game online?
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Anyone know where I can stream the game online?
The same place you can every other game in existence. WatchESPN if you have access or go the illegal route of firstrowsports.eu
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People rag on them all the time but they have smart kids, good kids (most of them), and their program compared to most is very clean (yes, there are exceptions).
Spare me. Thats just what people used to say about Joe Paterno and Penn State. That program is no cleaner, and their kids are no better than the ones they will line up against tonight, or any other team they have played this year...well, maybe USC.
This myth of ND Football being somehow different is ridiculous. It isn't 1950 anymore. What have we seen now, two deaths related to Brian Kelly's Fighting Irish? I'm not saying they're any worse, but the suggestion that their players are somehow better people or that they are any cleaner than anyone else is laughable.
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or go the illegal route of firstrowsports.eu
Bingo. I don't own a tv and thus don't have a cable subscription. It's ridiculous that I pay for internet but can't watch the game through ESPN's stream.
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I don't think any team in the country is as good as Alabama or LSU was last year. But the top half of the SEC as a whole is as good as it has ever been (granted the addition of Texas A&M this year is a factor). It gets softer after that, and Auburn and Kentucky were horrible this year but there are always a couple of bad teams at the bottom. Ole Miss and Vanderbilt were actually fairly respectable this year and both won their bowl games.
Think it depends on what you compare it to. In my view, the top of the SEC this year is not as good as the top of SEC last year....purely a matter of opinion.
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Bama should be playing my Oregon Ducks, but unfortunately that didn't happen (this year)
Go ND! (ouch that hurts to say)
Can't stand the SEC inbreads, hope Saban gets embarrassed tonight.
(hey i can be irish for st. patty's day, i suppose one more day out of the year wont hurt)
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Yeaaa, Notre Dame is right behind the Packers in terms of my least favorite sports teams for any level of any sport. So unless the Domers play the Packers anytime soon there is nothing in the world that can make me want them to win.
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Bama should be playing my Oregon Ducks, but unfortunately that didn't happen (this year)
Go ND! (ouch that hurts to say)
Can't stand the SEC inbreads, hope Saban gets embarrassed tonight.
(hey i can be irish for st. patty's day, i suppose one more day out of the year wont hurt)
You have to be happy Kelly is staying in Eugene. It will be interesting to see what NCAA infractions are coming, but the Ducks are loaded for next year.
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it's getting ugly already
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it's getting ugly already
Golden Domers vs. Mobile Homers
Roll F'ing, Tide!
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Lol what a fisting.
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ND is being embarrassed on "national TV"!
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....the Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl were played on the same day, it would be the perfect double header.
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Any chance they can get Oregon to come out to play Bama in the 2nd half?
ND is basically a 9-3 team that got some huge breaks during the season. You can't argue with 12-0 but sometimes the eye test is right.
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Is this really the national championship?
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yea, notre dame maybe the 6th best team in the SEC? Im sure ESPN is not liking this
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I hope Alabama takes its foot off the gas. Can't... do... any... more... push... ups... 34... 35. Whew.
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Brent Mushpucker is insufferable.
Love Sabin and Howard. Both are calling it like it is....a beat down of the highest order.
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Well that's the over right there.
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Brent Mushpucker is insufferable.
Love Sabin and Howard. Both are calling it like it is....a beat down of the highest order.
Meyer. He was Sabin in the SEC before Sabin.
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McCarron just pulled a Cutler. And Barrett Jones was having none of it. wow.
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Jones was right - McCarron messed up the snap count.
Love that the Irish got spanked. Great night.
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yea, notre dame maybe the 6th best team in the SEC? Im sure ESPN is not liking this
They really probably would have been 2nd or 3rd best.
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They really probably would have been 2nd or 3rd best.
Im not so sure- LSU, A&M, Georgia, SC, and Florida (maybe) all looked better imo.
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They really probably would have been 2nd or 3rd best.
No way. ND doesn't have the speed to compete week to week with SEC teams. Obviously speed and talent are not the same thing but the speed differential last night was borderline embarrassing.
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No way. ND doesn't have the speed to compete week to week with SEC teams. Obviously speed and talent are not the same thing but the speed differential last night was borderline embarrassing.
+1 It is an entirely different level down there.
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How will they live with the shame of getting embarrassed on national TV by a better team? Hope it doesn't hurt their next TV deal. (applying the same logic to ND that some apply to MU)
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Im not so sure- LSU, A&M, Georgia, SC, and Florida (maybe) all looked better imo.
Yep, the top 6 in the SEC would beat ND. Not every time, but more often than not.
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That game was boooring as hell by halftime. Te'o has been exposed and is now considered overrated. Lacy will be a first round draft pick. Can't wait til the college playoffs.
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Final AP poll out. SEC had seven teams in top 25. Meaning 28% of the poll were from SEC.
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No way. ND doesn't have the speed to compete week to week with SEC teams. Obviously speed and talent are not the same thing but the speed differential last night was borderline embarrassing.
Alabama dominating Notre Dame doesn't make every other team in the SEC better. SC, LSU, and Florida all looked very mediocre coming out of their bowl games.
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You have to be happy Kelly is staying in Eugene. It will be interesting to see what NCAA infractions are coming, but the Ducks are loaded for next year.
Indeed I was Chicos, I don't think the infractions will be too harsh, otherwise i highly doubt Chip would be returning. Chip made a few comments on Sunday night that Oregon has cooperated fully with the NCAA, and is an open book. I'm hoping this will lessen the punishment, and praying there isn't a bowl ban next year.
I think Oregon can give Bama a run for their money, and can't wait to see them both next year in Pasadena.
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Alabama dominating Notre Dame doesn't make every other team in the SEC better. SC, LSU, and Florida all looked very mediocre coming out of their bowl games.
ND looked very mediocre coming out of their games against Pitt, Michigan, Michigan St, Purdue, BYU and USC.
LSU and Georgia nearly beat Alabama and A&M did beat them. ND was completely overmatched and weren't even competitive. Best-case, ND would be the fifth-best team in the SEC this season but I really don't see them beating Florida or SCarolina. They're just too fast.
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ND looked very mediocre coming out of their games against Pitt, Michigan, Michigan St, Purdue, BYU and USC.
LSU and Georgia nearly beat Alabama and A&M did beat them. ND was completely overmatched and weren't even competitive. Best-case, ND would be the fifth-best team in the SEC this season but I really don't see them beating Florida or SCarolina. They're just too fast.
So LSU loses its bowl game to an ACC school, Florida gets destroyed and embarrassed by a lowly Big East school, and SC barely wins against a 5 loss Michigan team, yet there is no way ND could ever compete with those schools? If ND had Georgia's schedule they would have gone 12-2 as well.
(note: Just to be clear, I hate ND with a burning passion. I despise them)
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ND looked very mediocre coming out of their games against Pitt, Michigan, Michigan St, Purdue, BYU and USC.
LSU and Georgia nearly beat Alabama and A&M did beat them. ND was completely overmatched and weren't even competitive. Best-case, ND would be the fifth-best team in the SEC this season but I really don't see them beating Florida or SCarolina. They're just too fast.
At no point in the last few weeks did I think ND ever really had a shot at beating Bama last night. However, how different would LSU, GA, A&M games have been if Saban had 30 days to gameplan?
Not only was Bama too fast, but they were too strong as well.
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So LSU loses its bowl game to an ACC school, Florida gets destroyed and embarrassed by a lowly Big East school, and SC barely wins against a 5 loss Michigan team, yet there is no way ND could ever compete with those schools? If ND had Georgia's schedule they would have gone 12-2 as well.
(note: Just to be clear, I hate ND with a burning passion. I despise them)
Who cares about bowl games? A lot of teams use them as glorified practices to get ready for next season. I'm talking about games that actually mattered.
Georgia basically played Alabama even over the course of a game and probably should have beaten them. Same goes for LSU. What gave you any indication that ND could play with Alabama for even a half, let alone an entire game?
ND barely beat Purdue (6-7) at home. ND barely beat BYU (8-5) at home. ND needed some help to beat Stanford (12-2) at home. ND needed 2 bad calls to beat Pitt (6-7) at home. ND had ugly wins against Michigan (8-5) at home and MSU (7-6).
Don't get me wrong, ND had a great season but they're were a 9-3 caliber team that got some breaks and went undefeated. Eventually, they were exposed.
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Who cares about bowl games? A lot of teams use them as glorified practices to get ready for next season. I'm talking about games that actually mattered.
So you think Florida just didn't care about the Sugar Bowl?
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So you think Florida just didn't care about the Sugar Bowl?
No since at least two of their players declared for the draft in the post-game locker room. Seemed generally pretty apathetic to me.
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So you think Florida just didn't care about the Sugar Bowl?
You think they did care about it? This is a team that prior to the loss to UGA had designs on a national championship. You think they gave a rip about a completely meaningless exhibition game against Louisville?
That in a nutshell is why the BCS is so stupid. One game matters. The rest are just plain pointless.
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You think they did care about it? This is a team that prior to the loss to UGA had designs on a national championship. You think they gave a rip about a completely meaningless exhibition game against Louisville?
That in a nutshell is why the BCS is so stupid. One game matters. The rest are just plain pointless.
I've got no idea if they cared or not to be honest, but I think a lot of those players probably did and would take pride in a BCS win after barely being preseaon ranked. It's also a garbage argument to say a team is great and then when they get their asses kicked you just chalk it up to "it didn't mean anything".
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I've got no idea if they cared or not to be honest, but I think a lot of those players probably did and would take pride in a BCS win after barely being preseaon ranked. It's also a garbage argument to say a team is great and then when they get their asses kicked you just chalk it up to "it didn't mean anything".
They cared when the game started, though not as much as Louisville, but then they got behind by a couple of scores and packed it in. There's a big difference between losing by a large margin and getting completely dominated. Louisville came out really fired up and wanted to prove that they belonged in a BCS bowl. Florida had their sights set on the NCG so there was obvious a bit of a letdown being in the Sugar Bowl. Florida was able to move the ball but they turned it over 3 times and they were only outgained by 50 yards. It's also worth noting that Charlie Strong was the D coordinator at Florida and recruited a lot of their current players. Florida is a better team than Louisville and if they played 10 times at a neutral site, Florida would probably win 7 or 8 of those games.
If Bama and ND played 10 times at a neutral site, Bama would win all 10. They outgained ND by 227 yards, scored TDs on 6 of their first 8 possessions, ND didn't put together a drive of more than 40 yards until midway through the 3rd quarter and that drive was aided by 2 questionable calls by the officials. It wasn't like ND turned the ball over a lot or gave up a flukish TD or had someone get hurt and the game got away from them. They were physically dominated from start to finish.
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ND didn't put together a drive of more than 40 yards until midway through the 3rd quarter and that drive was aided by 2 questionable calls by the officials. It wasn't like ND turned the ball over a lot or gave up a flukish TD or had someone get hurt and the game got away from them. They were physically dominated from start to finish.
ND's whole season was aided by questionable calls by the official. I remember brent Mushpucker calling ND's season "magical". It was magical only from the sense that the ref's lined up and gave them the games against Purdue, Stanford, and Pittsburgh at a minimum.
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I get that Alabama is better than ND, I'm arguing where ND would stack up in the rest of the SEC and I think they would have been just as good as the other teams at the top and it most likely would have come down to scheduling and who and where they actually played. I just don't buy into the notion that every team in the SEC is automatically better than everyone just because they play in the SEC. It's the best conference because they have the most good teams, but that doesn't mean no other teams can succeed in it, hence what A&M did this year with what is truly a Big12 team.
Also, fwiw if UGA beat Bama, ND would have opened as a ~3pt favorite over UGA.
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They cared when the game started, though not as much as Louisville, but then they got behind by a couple of scores and packed it in. There's a big difference between losing by a large margin and getting completely dominated. Louisville came out really fired up and wanted to prove that they belonged in a BCS bowl. Florida had their sights set on the NCG so there was obvious a bit of a letdown being in the Sugar Bowl. Florida was able to move the ball but they turned it over 3 times and they were only outgained by 50 yards. It's also worth noting that Charlie Strong was the D coordinator at Florida and recruited a lot of their current players. Florida is a better team than Louisville and if they played 10 times at a neutral site, Florida would probably win 7 or 8 of those games.
If Bama and ND played 10 times at a neutral site, Bama would win all 10. They outgained ND by 227 yards, scored TDs on 6 of their first 8 possessions, ND didn't put together a drive of more than 40 yards until midway through the 3rd quarter and that drive was aided by 2 questionable calls by the officials. It wasn't like ND turned the ball over a lot or gave up a flukish TD or had someone get hurt and the game got away from them. They were physically dominated from start to finish.
+1. Everyone "prepares" and everyone "tries" to win their bowl games. At least they think they do, but if one team (Louisville) is excited and one team disappointed (Florida) to be there it can affect the outcome. The one and only bowl game where both teams have the ultimate and same goal is the BCS Championship.
Last night's game was utter domination. Alabama was too big, too fast, too skilled and too well coached for the Irish. 42-14 doesn't begin to tell how one sided it was. How bad was it? The gap between Alabama and Notre Dame was every bit as wide as the one between ND and a really bad (think Indiana or Army bad) low level D1 team. Stunning.
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How bad was it? The gap between Alabama and Notre Dame was every bit as wide as the one between ND and a really bad (think Indiana or Army bad) low level D1 team. Stunning.
What does that say about the Big Ten and all the teams from that conference that ND beat?
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I would just be the under (43), and if you can find 10, take the points.
You won big if you were talking about the under for just Bama!
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What does that say about the Big Ten and all the teams from that conference that ND beat?
Those 3 Big Ten schools had a combined conference record of 12-12, so actually not that much. Now if it was Michigan, OSU, and PSU or Wisconsin or Nebraska you might be able to draw a better conclusion. It probably, if anything, says more about the Pac 12 (USC/Stanford) and the Big 12 (Oklahoma).
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ND took the schedule they had and ran the table. Sure, they could have lost 3 games, but they didn't. They beat 3 B1G schools, two Pac1? schools, and Miami. Yup, they got trounced on the big stage by a better team. But you simply can't denigrate their regular season.
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ND took the schedule they had and ran the table. Sure, they could have lost 3 games, but they didn't. They beat 3 B1G schools, two Pac1? schools, and Miami. Yup, they got trounced on the big stage by a better team. But you simply can't denigrate their regular season.
They did what they needed to do, but when they struggled to beat the likes of BYU and Pitt, and the controversial manner in which they barely beat Stanford made it pretty apparent they were never as good as their record indicated. The only possible hope I saw for them was remembering an Ohio State team that also didn't seem very good based on season results and still overcame Miami in the title game.
The Irish did what they had to do in the regular season, but Monday's result was about as foregone a conclusion as ever you'll have in a game of that magnitude. They were never a legitimate title contender. The SEC Championship was more important than the BCS Championship was.
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Favorite or not, UGA would have crushed ND the same way Alabama did. Also if ND plays the same schedule as uga they lose to SC, FL, Bama, at minimum.
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They did what they needed to do, but when they struggled to beat the likes of BYU and Pitt, and the controversial manner in which they barely beat Stanford made it pretty apparent they were never as good as their record indicated. The only possible hope I saw for them was remembering an Ohio State team that also didn't seem very good based on season results and still overcame Miami in the title game.
The Irish did what they had to do in the regular season, but Monday's result was about as foregone a conclusion as ever you'll have in a game of that magnitude. They were never a legitimate title contender. The SEC Championship was more important than the BCS Championship was.
Ohio St. is a good comparison but let's also remember that the Buckeyes were helped immensely by a questionable PI call in the Miami game. Granted, it was late and they were actually in the game but still.
If nothing else, this season proved that sometimes the "eye test" is right.
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Favorite or not, UGA would have crushed ND the same way Alabama did. Also if ND plays the same schedule as uga they lose to SC, FL, Bama, at minimum.
I'll spot you SC and Bama, but FL embarrassed themselves against Louisville.
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The Irish did what they had to do in the regular season, but Monday's result was about as foregone a conclusion as ever you'll have in a game of that magnitude. They were never a legitimate title contender. The SEC Championship was more important than the BCS Championship was.
Point me to somewhere you said this before the game was played and I'll give it some credence. Easy to say after the fact.
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Point me to somewhere you said this before the game was played and I'll give it some credence. Easy to say after the fact.
I realize this was directed at brewcity but I pointed out that ND was not a legit title contender in this thread on January 7, 2013 at 1:37pm.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Credence me!
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I realize this was directed at brewcity but I pointed out that ND was not a legit title contender in this thread on January 7, 2013 at 1:37pm.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Credence me!
Allow me to be the second to congratulate you.
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I realize this was directed at brewcity but I pointed out that ND was not a legit title contender in this thread on January 7, 2013 at 1:37pm.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Credence me!
Cubed.
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I realize this was directed at brewcity but I pointed out that ND was not a legit title contender in this thread on January 7, 2013 at 1:37pm.
Typically teams that get as many breaks as ND has gotten this season have their bubble burst at some point. Let's face it, ND is a 9-3 team that lucked their way to 12-0. It's one thing to play poorly and need a couple breaks to sneak past Pitt or Purdue. It's another to try to do that against the defending national champs.
Credence me!
Done! ;D
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I'll spot you SC and Bama, but FL embarrassed themselves against Louisville.
Already been discussed. Have them play again in a game that actually has some meaning/consequences, and see how it turns out.
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Favorite or not, UGA would have crushed ND the same way Alabama did. Also if ND plays the same schedule as uga they lose to SC, FL, Bama, at minimum.
No offense, but I'll take Vegas's opinion over yours.
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Already been discussed. Have them play again in a game that actually has some meaning/consequences, and see how it turns out.
Bowl games seem to be relevant when people want to claim how dominant the SEC is, but it's interesting how bowl games become irrelevant when the SEC loses in them.
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Bowl games seem to be relevant when people want to claim how dominant the SEC is, but it's interesting how bowl games become irrelevant when the SEC loses in them.
How do you figure?
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I didn't watch this game for 2 reasons:
1. I hate all these new-found ND fans. I myself am not a fan, but I know that ND has had some pretty brutal seasons not too long ago. At least admit that you are a bandwagon fan. You were not there for when they sucked.
2. I hate the SEC and particularly Alabama. I hate Nick Saban and that whole team. I really thought this was going to be the year of No-SEC, but then Oregon and K-State had to blow it. Oh well, there is always next year.
And I would just like to say that McCarron's girlfriend is highly over-rated. that is all.
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I didn't watch this game for 2 reasons:
1. I hate all these new-found ND fans. I myself am not a fan, but I know that ND has had some pretty brutal seasons not too long ago. At least admit that you are a bandwagon fan. You were not there for when they sucked.
2. I hate the SEC and particularly Alabama. I hate Nick Saban and that whole team. I really thought this was going to be the year of No-SEC, but then Oregon and K-State had to blow it. Oh well, there is always next year.
And I would just like to say that McCarron's girlfriend is highly over-rated. that is all.
LOL! Nobody that good looking has ever stepped foot anywhere NEAR Marquette's campus. You must be from out of this geographic region and have a BABE!
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Lazer, can you show me where Vegas said uga would have opened as a 3 pt dog to nd? Not saying I don't believe you read that, I just don't believe it.
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LOL! Nobody that good looking has ever stepped foot anywhere NEAR Marquette's campus. You must be from out of this geographic region and have a BABE!
I am particularly fond of my current partner (;
I just think AJ's is extremely high-maintenance and extremely obsessed with how she looks. I've never really been drawn to girls that value their appearance too much (i.e a pageant queen, which is exactly what she is.) hahahah. And the fact she's probably from the deep south. Could not get along. Hahahaha.
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Already been discussed. Have them play again in a game that actually has some meaning/consequences, and see how it turns out.
Maybe, but that seems to always be the excuse when one of these heavyweights lose to a team they shouldn't. Maybe it's just because they were outplayed that day. Florida didn't exactly look very good in some games this year. Anyone remember 14-7 over Missouri (that's 5-7 Missouri). Or how about 27-20 over Louisiana Lafayette where the Gators scored on a blocked punt with 2 seconds in the game to win it.
Florida had their share of craptacular football games where they squeaked out wins this year. Didn't work in the Sugar Bowl.
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Lazer, can you show me where Vegas said uga would have opened as a 3 pt dog to nd? Not saying I don't believe you read that, I just don't believe it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/11/25/odds-notre-dame-alabama-georgia-bcs-national-title/1725359/
2.5 points according to this article
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Errr ... BCS computer ranking declares Notre Dame national champion.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21534509/notre-dame-still-1-in-one-bcs-computer-ranking
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Errr ... BCS computer ranking declares Notre Dame national champion.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21534509/notre-dame-still-1-in-one-bcs-computer-ranking
Always believed margin of victory should be factored in, but the powers that be say that will encourage teams to run up the score. Well, seems a simple fix is to put in a diminishing returns principle. Once you beat a team by X (say 28 points), you get no more brownie points.
It drives me nuts that a 52-0 victory is treated the same as a 28-27 victory.
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Thx for the article.