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Author Topic: Explosions in Kiev  (Read 51432 times)

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #775 on: March 26, 2022, 05:52:34 PM »
It was a stupid comment.  Higher chance of it galvanizing everyday Russian support than saying something along the lines of, "We will back the Russian people if they choose to end the bloodshed and reclaim their country".

Similar message, much less confrontational.

I disagree. The comment was not meant for Putin. It was for the people around him.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #776 on: March 26, 2022, 05:56:17 PM »
I disagree. The comment was not meant for Putin. It was for the people around him.


You really think that type of comment is going to mean anything to the people around him?  They already know what’s up.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #777 on: March 26, 2022, 06:12:54 PM »
You'd think after 84 years in the senate, 8 as VP, 4 in his basement in deleware,, and now 2 in the WH, he would know how the diplomatic game works.

Or he thinks putin is corn pop and wants to bare knuckle box him behind the woodshed.
Yeah, he should just have fellated Putin, called him a savvy genius, sided with him over our intelligence agencies, and pulled aid from Zelenskyy. That's what a real diplomat does.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #778 on: March 26, 2022, 06:37:02 PM »
It was a stupid comment.  Higher chance of it galvanizing everyday Russian support than saying something along the lines of, "We will back the Russian people if they choose to end the bloodshed and reclaim their country".

Similar message, much less confrontational.

Saying Putin should go is stupid, but openly encouraging a revolt is savvy?
I actually agree with Jockey here. This was a signal to the people around Putin.
And yes, Clarissa, they are listening.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #779 on: March 26, 2022, 07:22:15 PM »
I don't know why its impossible to say Biden did something stupid without having to state that Trump was a moron and did other impossibly stupid things.  Its an incredibly weak defense of Biden.  Both can be inept

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #780 on: March 26, 2022, 07:23:55 PM »
I don't know why its impossible to say Biden did something stupid without having to state that Trump was a moron and did other impossibly stupid things.  Its an incredibly weak defense of Biden.  Both can be inept

And both are.  Please no more boomer presidents
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #781 on: March 26, 2022, 07:25:14 PM »
I don't know why its impossible to say Biden did something stupid without having to state that Trump was a moron and did other impossibly stupid things.  Its an incredibly weak defense of Biden.  Both can be inept

Biden has handled this entire thing very well. But what he said today was unplanned and not smart. And no it wasn’t some message to those around Putin. Those around Putin aren’t listening to messages from Joe Biden, especially since he isn’t saying anything they don’t already know.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #782 on: March 26, 2022, 07:58:35 PM »
Yeah, he should just have fellated Putin, called him a savvy genius, sided with him over our intelligence agencies, and pulled aid from Zelenskyy. That's what a real diplomat does.

Or this. He should have done this.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #783 on: March 26, 2022, 08:11:07 PM »
Zero. Zero downside. Biden's team more or less ignores the inevitable Fox/RT spin, as they do that of the various Russian owned mouthpieces in Congress. It's a deliberate decision, and I think it's likely to prove successful. It sure as hell has all of NATO fired up in a good way. Biden is saying what the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians and others ALL want to hear. He's telling them that he understands what a threat Putin is to all of them, and that he is on their side. Plus, it puts the RT people like Fox on the backfoot. They now have to defend Putin directly. Or not. It makes them move into the open in their support, or it makes them abandon him.. Either way, that's a win. Destroy your credibility, or cut ties with Putin.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #784 on: March 26, 2022, 08:45:43 PM »
Yeah, he should just have fellated Putin, called him a savvy genius, sided with him over our intelligence agencies, and pulled aid from Zelenskyy. That's what a real diplomat does.

Ice your shoulders, they must be tired from carrying the water for the clown.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #785 on: March 26, 2022, 08:52:46 PM »
Zero. Zero downside. Biden's team more or less ignores the inevitable Fox/RT spin, as they do that of the various Russian owned mouthpieces in Congress. It's a deliberate decision, and I think it's likely to prove successful. It sure as hell has all of NATO fired up in a good way. Biden is saying what the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians and others ALL want to hear. He's telling them that he understands what a threat Putin is to all of them, and that he is on their side. Plus, it puts the RT people like Fox on the backfoot. They now have to defend Putin directly. Or not. It makes them move into the open in their support, or it makes them abandon him.. Either way, that's a win. Destroy your credibility, or cut ties with Putin.




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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #786 on: March 26, 2022, 09:55:18 PM »
And both are.  Please no more boomer presidents

As a boomer, my response to this is...

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #787 on: March 26, 2022, 10:26:09 PM »
Zero. Zero downside. Biden's team more or less ignores the inevitable Fox/RT spin, as they do that of the various Russian owned mouthpieces in Congress. It's a deliberate decision, and I think it's likely to prove successful. It sure as hell has all of NATO fired up in a good way. Biden is saying what the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians and others ALL want to hear. He's telling them that he understands what a threat Putin is to all of them, and that he is on their side. Plus, it puts the RT people like Fox on the backfoot. They now have to defend Putin directly. Or not. It makes them move into the open in their support, or it makes them abandon him.. Either way, that's a win. Destroy your credibility, or cut ties with Putin.

Yep. For all of his flaws - and Biden has many - it’s good to have a president who isn’t beholden to Putin, and a president who is trying to lead a fight for America, for our allies and for democracy.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #788 on: March 27, 2022, 07:06:13 AM »
FD Joe painted himself into a corner. No choice but to knock off Putin, which he will bungle major, aina?
« Last Edit: March 27, 2022, 08:17:57 AM by 4everwarriors »
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #789 on: March 27, 2022, 08:13:20 AM »
Putin is smart.  He made a mistake.  This war is a great negotiation that didn’t go well for him so far.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #790 on: March 27, 2022, 08:20:21 AM »
White House is walking back the idiotic remark and trying to retrieve the full Johnson FD is choking down, aina?


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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #791 on: March 27, 2022, 08:30:47 AM »
White House is walking back the idiotic remark and trying to retrieve the full Johnson FD is choking down, aina?


#buffoon


Again, and I know you find this hard to stomach, but he has handled this extremely well. Sorry you can't give your President his due at a time of international crisis.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #793 on: March 27, 2022, 08:52:07 AM »

Again, and I know you find this hard to stomach, but he has handled this extremely well. Sorry you can't give your President his due at a time of international crisis.



The invasion of the Ukraine only happened because of Biden's extreme weakness. The world, including China, has seen and made note of his mishandling of Afghanistan, the Mexican border, and the Middle East. The U.S., not only isn't feared by our enemies, but is perceived as weak and vulnerable.
Buffoon and Buffoon2 make for great comedy. Unfortunately, the joke is on the American people, aina?
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #794 on: March 27, 2022, 08:54:36 AM »


The invasion of the Ukraine only happened because of Biden's extreme weakness. The world, including China, has seen and made note of his mishandling of Afghanistan, the Mexican border, and the Middle East. The U.S., not only isn't feared by our enemies, but is perceived as weak and vulnerable.
Buffoon and Buffoon2 make for great comedy. Unfortunately, the joke is on the American people, aina?

This is your brain on right-wing media.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #795 on: March 27, 2022, 09:03:32 AM »
The invasion of the Ukraine only happened because of Biden's extreme weakness. The world, including China, has seen and made note of his mishandling of Afghanistan, the Mexican border, and the Middle East. The U.S., not only isn't feared by our enemies, but is perceived as weak and vulnerable.
Buffoon and Buffoon2 make for great comedy. Unfortunately, the joke is on the American people, aina?

Lol. Sure. Thats why the American lead NATO response has been so ineffective. 🙄🙄🙄🙄


This is your brain on right-wing media.

Yep.
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #796 on: March 27, 2022, 09:06:33 AM »
Zero. Zero downside. Biden's team more or less ignores the inevitable Fox/RT spin, as they do that of the various Russian owned mouthpieces in Congress. It's a deliberate decision, and I think it's likely to prove successful. It sure as hell has all of NATO fired up in a good way. Biden is saying what the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians and others ALL want to hear. He's telling them that he understands what a threat Putin is to all of them, and that he is on their side. Plus, it puts the RT people like Fox on the backfoot. They now have to defend Putin directly. Or not. It makes them move into the open in their support, or it makes them abandon him.. Either way, that's a win. Destroy your credibility, or cut ties with Putin.

My Polish in-laws are extremely happy with yesterday's speech and comments.  The whole country is.  They're thankful we have a President who stands up to Putin unlike TFG.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #797 on: March 27, 2022, 09:18:20 AM »
My Polish in-laws are extremely happy with yesterday's speech and comments.  The whole country is.  They're thankful we have a President who stands up to Putin unlike TFG.

Well, what would people in Poland know?  Do they even sit by their police scanners?  I mean, they let refugees in their country!  Sad!
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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #798 on: March 27, 2022, 09:25:18 AM »

Again, and I know you find this hard to stomach, but he has handled this extremely well. Sorry you can't give your President his due at a time of international crisis.

Actually, he is willing to give ‘his’ President his due. He’s just unwilling to support the president of the US.

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Re: Explosions in Kiev
« Reply #799 on: March 27, 2022, 09:26:39 AM »
Lol. Sure. Thats why the American lead NATO response has been so ineffective. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

If only Biden had reached out for advice from noted foreign policy expert Kid Rock, this all could have been avoided.