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well at least BLM and Antifa groups were out protesting and rioting over this tragic and heinous action. Oh, wait...
Legal or illegal, blue state or red state, accidental or intentional...reducing the insanely easy access to guns would be a good place to start.
As I wrote many months ago, the vilification of cops and defunding the police movement would lead to increased violent crime and homicides in our major cities. I was called a "fearmonger" or something along those lines. We are also seeing more and more cops targeted and yet people think they shouldn't be armed at traffic stops. We have a President who stated they should "shoot people in the leg".
Well we haven't really defunded anything, and I don't know if the "vilification of cops" has anything to do with any of this. It seems to me that gang violence has grown significantly this year, and the cops have gotten caught up in it as well. And let's not forget that the violent crime rate has been steadily decreasing since 1990, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, and this year would still be a minor blip of an increase compared to the progress made over the last 30 years.
You do realize that 40 mill legal guns were bought in 2020 alone? And something like 40% were from 1st time owners? It seems to me that if people actually want to talk about solutions, convincing people right now not to get a firearm is pretty much a non-starter.<snip>What exactly are leaders in our major cities doing to quell in particular gang violence? Why are they back on the street so easily as the Mayor of Baltimore stated? How about we focus on the criminals in lieu of "getting rid of guns" which frankly isn't possible or an actual solution. And if you think it a solution why aren't you proposing a blanket gun ban?
Only an idiot would read my post and think I was making that comparison.
Doing nothing has been the policy for quite some time now, with the results that you are seeing. Worse, the right wing has virulently opposed any and every sensible gun law proposed since the NRA has gained power.A blanket gun ban would not work. However, there are dozens of commons sense solutions, many of them mentioned in the pages here. None of them completely eliminate the problem or reduce it 100%. All of them, especially taken in aggregate, can have significant impact in reducing gun violence.Here is a question to ask yourself: how is it possible that being the world leader in gun violence has become a partisan issue? How is it possible that Americans, regardless of political persuasion, can look at the amount of unnecessary death and destruction and NOT say, "Yeah, we need to something about that"? Why do you think one political party has staked out a position that virtually NOTHING can or should be tried to mitigate the gun violence? Who benefits from that financially and politically?
Your words, Chuck.Not surprising that yet again you are casting blame for the shooting of a police officer on everyone and everything but the perpetrators.
I'm interested in rational solutions. Actual laws that can be calibrated to stop criminals from getting guns and murdering innocent people. What I've mostly read here are talking points that have a 0.0% chance of solving this horrific situation.
And if you think it a solution why aren't you proposing a blanket gun ban?
How about we focus on the criminals in lieu of "getting rid of guns" which frankly isn't possible or an actual solution.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
This isn't necessarily true, my understanding is the NRA actually used to be pro gun control measures essentially till the Raegan administration when they changed over to a "zero compromise" philosophy on gun control. Here's the article:https://timeline.com/nra-machine-guns-1986-265cb939c77c
It begins with taking out these gangs.
I agree that NOTHING isn't a solution nor should it be a partisan issue. But states that have more stringent gun laws have criminals that will find a way to get their guns either illegally or legally. These laws aren't working is my point. You can talk about gun lobbyists or the political party that generally is in charge of our major cities.
What laws are in place but not working, exactly? And if there are some that are in place and not working, how about we write some new ones that do work?Each time that the political party that is generally in charge of cities passes a law that attempts to deal with guns and gun violence, which party unfailingly opposes the measure and takes it to court?Again, tell me who benefits financially and politically by making this a partisan wedge issue?
I agree that NOTHING isn't a solution nor should it be a partisan issue. But states that have more stringent gun laws have criminals that will find a way to get their guns either illegally or legally. These laws aren't working is my point. You can talk about gun lobbyists or the political party that generally is in charge of our major cities. I've heard pissed off police chiefs all over the country. Criminals are getting out too easily and committing the same heinous acts. Mayors are not giving them the support they need in most places. We should all be absolutely incensed about what's going on, and these are 80% black citizens. And their lives do fking matter, why aren't we doing jack squat? Why aren't there protests over this despicable situation? Little kids gunned down every goddamn weekend!! WTF? Where's the coverage? This is not partisan and has to stop. It begins with taking out these gangs.
Not sure how accurate this is, but here's a list:https://stacker.com/stories/12022/gun-control-legislation-passed-and-failed-over-last-20-years
You want to reduce crime (gun-related or otherwise)? Reduce poverty.Take money from the top of society -> Give everyone UBI. Give everyone healthcare. Significantly improve public housing. Within a decade, things would improve everywhere drastically.Edit: Oh, and make access to abortions easier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
...I don't think that list is what you think it is. It's a list of 20 laws related to gun control that were proposed and either passed or failed (were never enacted).There are 20 laws in this list, here's the breakdown:3 passed laws that limit gun control (i.e. more guns)15 failed laws that increase gun control (i.e. less guns)2 pending laws that increase gun control (passed the house, not the senate)It's literally a list of all the times that an attempt at gun control has been shot down
I've said nothing about blame for the shooting of a police officer.Also: