student section changes

[wyzgy]

they need to bring them both closer to the floor, close offthat big gap in the middle and fill it with seats(use a different exit/entrance for players, cheerleaders, et.al.) and wrap that student section around to fill in up to about half of that half court side in the bowl.  put those bowl seats either in to a lottery, camp out like we used to do, or give to upper classmen.  the jumpin jesuits would never do it because of $$$$$$-nice.  don't they realize the home floor advantage=wins=espn=P.R.=increased enrollment.  i think the padres should enroll themselves in to a couple of their own marketing classes-pass/fail?? go warriors

[TheButlerDidIt]

$$$$$ outweighs realizations.

[reinko]

they need to bring them both closer to the floor, close offthat big gap in the middle and fill it with seats(use a different exit/entrance for players, cheerleaders, et.al.) and wrap that student section around to fill in up to about half of that half court side in the bowl.  put those bowl seats either in to a lottery, camp out like we used to do, or give to upper classmen.  the jumpin jesuits would never do it because of $$$$$$-nice.  don't they realize the home floor advantage=wins=espn=P.R.=increased enrollment.  i think the padres should enroll themselves in to a couple of their own marketing classes-pass/fail?? go warriors

Enrollment at MU has been steady for years.

[wyzgy]

o.k. enrollment has been good.  how about increased exposure and wins= increased pride= happy alums=increased $donations$

[TheButlerDidIt]

In order to even sit in the lower bowl, a donation is required. The scale escapes me at the moment. Donations are already built in to lower bowl season tickets.

[Moonboots]

As a student, I would love to have the entire student section wrapping around the side of the court.  I think it would force the silent students who are in the upper deck to join in and make some noise.  It's never going to happen though.  Money talks.

[GregClausenForever]

Never ever going to happen.  It's not financially feasible without a football program.  Bball needs to carry the school.  And lower bowl seats at the BC requires a pretty hefty donation; trust me.  The numbers would amaze you.

The other major fact: the MU athletic dept takes great pride in being able to make season tix available for any student who wants them. 

If you were to look into season tix at other schools, MU has the single highest percentage of the undergrad population that holds season tix.  Seriously.  No one can compete. 

Yes, the BC is a lame wanna-be hockey arena.  Yes the students are removed from the action.  Yes it would be nice if students had more than 1,100 lower bowl seats.  But it will never happen.

[Big Papi]

Impossible to revamp the seating locations.  The only thing I would be in favor of is eliminating the student sections in the upper bowl and giving the students one additional section that is right behind the visitor's bench.

But hey maybe MU can start its own Squad 6 section right behind the visitors bench and instead of handing out stupid Noggin cutouts, they get loud crazy sound makers.

[APieperFan3]

how about the section to the left of the band!!!???...that would help to kind of "round out" the student section...and i truely believe if we expanded the student section just 1-2 sectioins in the lower bowl that we would get a turn out from them for some of the less marquee games as well as have a MUCH BIGGER impact in big games!!!

[Marquette_g]

As an alum on the lower level, I can safely say that if I wasn't seated in the lower bowl I wouldn't buy tickets and I hardly doubt I'm alone. 

People may not want to hear that, but it is the truth.  Additionally perpetual season ticket holders are one of the most valuable financial resources the school has.  There is very little benefit in alienating that group in any way.

[M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS]

The way I see all of this is that neither the students nor the alumni or older crowd is the problem with regards to the overall environment.  The real problem is the layout of the BC itself.  Because of the original design being for hocket it limits how many and how close the seats are to the floor.  This is the biggest issue.  You would think there would be a way to change this.

[buckchuckler]

As its been said, it'll never happen because, well money talks.  But it would be cool if there could be like a one game per year arrangement where the Alums give the student section their tix.  One big game per year with the student section around the court, it would be pretty cool, I think.

[BrewCity83]

As its been said, it'll never happen because, well money talks.  But it would be cool if there could be like a one game per year arrangement where the Alums give sells the student section their tix.  One big game per year with the student section around the court, it would be pretty cool, I think.

Fixed.

[82fanatic]

The multiple discussions about how the Students are unfairly treated is starting to sound like typical spoiled brats.  I could make a good sound argument that the alumni who have had season tickets for 20+ years, and come to majority of the games should not be moved back and farther away from the game so that students can sit closer to the floor.  The student section is taking up good seats that the university could sell for a lot more money. 

The majority of these kids education is paid by their parents.  The low cost of the student tickets are subsidized by the alumni season tickets and license fees.  None of this high quality basketball would exist without the $$$$$s from these alumni.  In fact your school would not exist with out these “nasty alumni” donations!!!!!

I am not complaining about the students, nor do I suggest things should change.  But if they are going to change, finances would dictate reduce the student seats in the lower bowl (loosing out on seat licenses).  Also, one may complain about certain games where alumni seats are empty, I would bet that the percentage of “student seats” that go unoccupied during the season is a higher than the percentage of “alumni seats”

To the students your school experience, and stop whining, you are not mistreated!

[M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS]

As its been said, it'll never happen because, well money talks.  But it would be cool if there could be like a one game per year arrangement where the Alums give the student section their tix.  One big game per year with the student section around the court, it would be pretty cool, I think.

Im actually not saying that the students should get more seats from the alumni on the first level.  Im saying the BC has a lot of wasted space at the floor level that could be utilized much better with a renovation and create many more seats alot closer to the floor.  I think the renovation is real too, as I dont see them getting a new arena.

[Hards Alumni]

The multiple discussions about how the Students are unfairly treated is starting to sound like typical spoiled brats.  I could make a good sound argument that the alumni who have had season tickets for 20+ years, and come to majority of the games should not be moved back and farther away from the game so that students can sit closer to the floor.  The student section is taking up good seats that the university could sell for a lot more money. 

The majority of these kids education is paid by their parents.  The low cost of the student tickets are subsidized by the alumni season tickets and license fees.  None of this high quality basketball would exist without the $$$$$s from these alumni.  In fact your school would not exist with out these “nasty alumni” donations!!!!!

I am not complaining about the students, nor do I suggest things should change.  But if they are going to change, finances would dictate reduce the student seats in the lower bowl (loosing out on seat licenses).  Also, one may complain about certain games where alumni seats are empty, I would bet that the percentage of “student seats” that go unoccupied during the season is a higher than the percentage of “alumni seats”

To the students your school experience, and stop whining, you are not mistreated!

I am an alumni.

Our alumni are spoiled just as much as you think our students are.  At other schools, STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY GO TO THE SCHOOL get to sit closer.

That will always be the argument.  Nothing will ever change until a new arena gets built... and then all hell will break loose.

frankly, I can't wait for the day that our students get the first 4 rows all the way around the arena and the alumni are pushed ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 5th ROW

GOD FORBID!

[M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS]

Dont know what it is.  But once in a while I upgrade my poormans seats in the upper level section 402 and get seats in row 10 or so on the lower bowl.  I do have to say, nobody up top is telling me to sit down or be quiet.  It has happened to me in the lower bowl and i have witnessed it on a few occasions to other people as well.  The mentallity in the lower bowl seems to be "sit down, you can see the game just as well"

[chapman]

The multiple discussions about how the Students are unfairly treated is starting to sound like typical spoiled brats.  I could make a good sound argument that the alumni who have had season tickets for 20+ years, and come to majority of the games should not be moved back and farther away from the game so that students can sit closer to the floor.  The student section is taking up good seats that the university could sell for a lot more money. 

The majority of these kids education is paid by their parents.  The low cost of the student tickets are subsidized by the alumni season tickets and license fees.  None of this high quality basketball would exist without the $$$$$s from these alumni.  In fact your school would not exist with out these “nasty alumni” donations!!!!!

I am not complaining about the students, nor do I suggest things should change.  But if they are going to change, finances would dictate reduce the student seats in the lower bowl (loosing out on seat licenses).  Also, one may complain about certain games where alumni seats are empty, I would bet that the percentage of “student seats” that go unoccupied during the season is a higher than the percentage of “alumni seats”

To the students your school experience, and stop whining, you are not mistreated!

Now I know why one of my friends  who worked at the BC hated working MU games, saying the alumni were all arrogant, entitled pricks.

[goodgreatgrand]

+1

I agree....and I would hate to have to sit next to 82fanatic.

Btw, how much money do u think Duke "loses" due to their student section? And where would u rather watch a game? Cameron Indoor or the BC?

[rocky_warrior]

"sit down, you can see the game just as well"

I think I've heard those exact words when sitting in the lower bowl...

[reinko]

The multiple discussions about how the Students are unfairly treated is starting to sound like typical spoiled brats.  I could make a good sound argument that the alumni who have had season tickets for 20+ years, and come to majority of the games should not be moved back and farther away from the game so that students can sit closer to the floor.  The student section is taking up good seats that the university could sell for a lot more money. 

The majority of these kids education is paid by their parents.  The low cost of the student tickets are subsidized by the alumni season tickets and license fees.  None of this high quality basketball would exist without the $$$$$s from these alumni.  In fact your school would not exist with out these “nasty alumni” donations!!!!!

I am not complaining about the students, nor do I suggest things should change.  But if they are going to change, finances would dictate reduce the student seats in the lower bowl (loosing out on seat licenses).  Also, one may complain about certain games where alumni seats are empty, I would bet that the percentage of “student seats” that go unoccupied during the season is a higher than the percentage of “alumni seats”

To the students your school experience, and stop whining, you are not mistreated!

And not too mention, you whippersnappers stop riding around on your skateboards, listening to your bee bop, snoopy dogg rap songs, and GET OFF MY LAWN!

[Litehouse]

+1

I agree....and I would hate to have to sit next to 82fanatic.

Btw, how much money do u think Duke "loses" due to their student section? And where would u rather watch a game? Cameron Indoor or the BC?

Duke also has revenue from football.  Granted their team sucks, but they still get a fat check every time an ACC team goes to a bowl game and from conference TV revenue.  Not to mention their endowment is way bigger than ours.

[GGGG]

Now I know why one of my friends  who worked at the BC hated working MU games, saying the alumni were all arrogant, entitled pricks.

Apparently, your definition of "arrogant, entitled prick" means don't getting the seats that they have paid for.  I'm struggling to understand why students feel that they are somehow entitled to sit closer to the floor.

[goodgreatgrand]

I recall someone on here saying how great GTown's fanbase is. Well, read this.
www.casualhoya.com/2010/2/19/1317266/traitorous-season-ticket-holders

At least we don't have their problem!

[McMARQthy]

Don't have an opinion one way or another on this topic really.  What I would LOVE to see however is one game a year for student season ticket holders played at the AL. Would be great if we could get a Big East game there but as realist I realize too much $$$$ would be lost from people who actually pay above $5.56 a game.  I would take a preseason non-conference game.  You want to act like there is actually some kind of rivalry between us and UWM, then put that game at the AL.  A packed house at the AL would be a lot of fun in my opinion.  Why don't we put that building to use seeing as how we did spend $30 million on it.

[5YearsatMU]

The ignorance of the students astounds me. 


Let you sit in the first 5 rows?  Another poster referenced seat donations, but with no amounts.  Want to sit courtside?  $5000, per seat, donation.  End of the court, courtside?  $3500 per seat.  First four rows courtside?  $2,750, per seat. 

And remember, in most cases, this isn't the only donation these people are making to the program.  These people help make MU a high major program.  Ever heard of the Coach's Compensation Fund? 

And one of the last posts, put the Al to use?  Are you kidding?  Have you EVER been in the south half of the building? Guess who paid for that?  Hint:  They don't pay $55 dollars a year for their season tickets. 

The MU basketball experience, as much as the students would like it to be, is not about pleasing them.  Travel to the preseason tournament, the Big East tournament or the NCAAs.  While there are surely students who make the trek, 95% of the fans are alums.  Guess who gets the best tickets? 

How many students, on there own, attended the Blue and Gold Auction?  They probably would have found it odd that Buzz knew the people bidding for the plane trip on a first name basis.  Why do you think he knew their names?  There are many alums who pay top dollar to be more connected to the program than Homer and Mac are.

[Jacks DC]

+1

I agree....and I would hate to have to sit next to 82fanatic.

Btw, how much money do u think Duke "loses" due to their student section? And where would u rather watch a game? Cameron Indoor or the BC?

Do you know what people would be saying on these boards if MU played at a place like Cameron Indoor?  I have been to games there.  Its like 100 degrees.  The ceiling drips on you.  You sit on wooden benches so close to the person next to you its awkward.  The concourses outside are like five feet wide so you can't even move.  Everyone who goes to those games knows that you have to use the bathroom before the game because if you try to go at halftime you miss the first ten minutes of the second half.  Oh, and try getting a beer.

BC is not a bad facility.  And as for the student section I was at the Syracuse / Georgetown game last night and the Georgetown students barely made a sound until the last five minutes.  I'd say 70% orange in the stands.

Could be worse.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

The multiple discussions about how the Students are unfairly treated is starting to sound like typical spoiled brats.  I could make a good sound argument that the alumni who have had season tickets for 20+ years, and come to majority of the games should not be moved back and farther away from the game so that students can sit closer to the floor.  The student section is taking up good seats that the university could sell for a lot more money. 

The majority of these kids education is paid by their parents.  The low cost of the student tickets are subsidized by the alumni season tickets and license fees.  None of this high quality basketball would exist without the $$$$$s from these alumni.  In fact your school would not exist with out these “nasty alumni” donations!!!!!

I am not complaining about the students, nor do I suggest things should change.  But if they are going to change, finances would dictate reduce the student seats in the lower bowl (loosing out on seat licenses).  Also, one may complain about certain games where alumni seats are empty, I would bet that the percentage of “student seats” that go unoccupied during the season is a higher than the percentage of “alumni seats”

To the students your school experience, and stop whining, you are not mistreated!

Wow. Get off my lawn!

BTW, gramps, I am paying for my own tuition.

[Hards Alumni]

The ignorance of the students astounds me. 


Let you sit in the first 5 rows?  Another poster referenced seat donations, but with no amounts.  Want to sit courtside?  $5000, per seat, donation.  End of the court, courtside?  $3500 per seat.  First four rows courtside?  $2,750, per seat. 

And remember, in most cases, this isn't the only donation these people are making to the program.  These people help make MU a high major program.  Ever heard of the Coach's Compensation Fund? 

And one of the last posts, put the Al to use?  Are you kidding?  Have you EVER been in the south half of the building? Guess who paid for that?  Hint:  They don't pay $55 dollars a year for their season tickets. 

The MU basketball experience, as much as the students would like it to be, is not about pleasing them.  Travel to the preseason tournament, the Big East tournament or the NCAAs.  While there are surely students who make the trek, 95% of the fans are alums.  Guess who gets the best tickets? 

How many students, on there own, attended the Blue and Gold Auction?  They probably would have found it odd that Buzz knew the people bidding for the plane trip on a first name basis.  Why do you think he knew their names?  There are many alums who pay top dollar to be more connected to the program than Homer and Mac are.

Right, and it would kill all of the alumni to be sitting 25 feet back.  What a stupid argument.

Stand up, support your team.  If you want to sit, find a LAZY BOY in front of your TV.

I've always defended MU against people who say that the people there are snobs... maybe I was wrong.

If MU charged the same amount they do now for 5 rows back, do you really think everyone would boycott?

ridiculous.

[The Pickle]

I didn't read every post but I agree with whomever agrees the "fans" who sit near the floor in their yellow sweater vests need to get off their asses and act like they actually want to be there.  If not, I'll give you my address and you can send me your floor seat tickets because I would love to have them...

[Ari Gold]

Right, and it would kill all of the alumni to be sitting 25 feet back.  What a stupid argument.

Stand up, support your team.  If you want to sit, find a LAZY BOY in front of your TV.

I've always defended MU against people who say that the people there are snobs... maybe I was wrong.

If MU charged the same amount they do now for 5 rows back, do you really think everyone would boycott?

ridiculous.

Thats why, as a recent alum I sit in row A of the 400s... 07 or 09 or something I forget. No worries about standing and a GREAT view. I bet my seats are at better angle and view that some of the last few rows of the 200s. And they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

Spent most of my undergrad speculating how to to move more students to the lower bowl with out the expense of the alums while I was getting in line for games hours in advance. MY biggest qualm with the area is the fact that the tunnels on each end split the student section. I think that hurts the student section presence

[PaintTouches]

Spent most of my undergrad speculating how to to move more students to the lower bowl with out the expense of the alums while I was getting in line for games hours in advance. MY biggest qualm with the area is the fact that the tunnels on each end split the student section. I think that hurts the student section presence

This is exactly right. I was in the student section behind the band last night and unless it was just scream and jump like crazy time, it was hard to hear some of the chants. As a result, some students would start their own. That does not work.

[Brewtown Andy]

And of course, it's worth pointing out that MU isn't going to move on any kind of changes to the student section in any format until the student section starts getting jammed full for every single game.

[GGGG]

Wow. Get off my lawn!

BTW, gramps, I am paying for my own tuition.

This is the third time I've seen this type of response.  It's trash.  Students don't get those seats because they don't deserve them.  They don't pay for them.

You want MU basketball to be good into the future?  Then it is up to the administration to maximize the revenue.  They are going going to turn $3,500 seats (plus the appropriate donation) into $85 student tickets.

[LON]

Solution:  Let the students drink in line again.  We never complained about our seats during 2002-2003 because we could sit in line waiting for the BC to open (and make the mad dash) drinking keg beer housed in Ice Mountain refrigerator dispensers and whiskey from flasks.  Beat the hell out of hot cocoa.

EDIT:  I reference 2002-2003 because that's the last time I remember being able to do that in the open.  The year after they made us walk across the street.  Bastards.

[wyzgy]

blender man's got it!!  they could very easily add seats to fill in the gaps, move the students closer to the floor, fill in that middle section behind the basket so when opposing teams are shooting free throws, some real distractions can be made.  put the students on both sides behind the baskets and closer to the floor.  bring them down out of the 2nd deck.  let the freeways of the world sit up there.  i have tix in the upper deck middle row 3 and love the perspective-want to get to row one mid 2nd  deck and i'll stay there until i'm pooping on myself

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

This is the third time I've seen this type of response.  It's trash.  Students don't get those seats because they don't deserve them.  They don't pay for them.

You want MU basketball to be good into the future?  Then it is up to the administration to maximize the revenue.  They are going going to turn $3,500 seats (plus the appropriate donation) into $85 student tickets.

Thanks for the classy, er, "trashy" response. If you could read, you'd note that I didn't disagree. I just took issue with his denunciation of the current student body and and any criticisms they might have. I'm sure as a school bureaucrat somewhere you also treasure your precious courtside seats as well. God forbid more people paying the salary for you type of people get closer to the floor.

[GGGG]

Thanks for the classy, er, "trashy" response. If you could read, you'd note that I didn't disagree. I just took issue with his denunciation of the current student body and and any criticisms they might have. I'm sure as a school bureaucrat somewhere you also treasure your precious courtside seats as well. God forbid more people paying the salary for you type of people get closer to the floor.

Actually, the school where I work has general admission so the students can sit as close to the floor as they wish.

[The Pickle]

This is the third time I've seen this type of response.  It's trash.  Students don't get those seats because they don't deserve them.  They don't pay for them.

You want MU basketball to be good into the future?  Then it is up to the administration to maximize the revenue.  They are going going to turn $3,500 seats (plus the appropriate donation) into $85 student tickets.

From a business perspective you are absolutely right but I am always surprised by people who pay that much for the tickets and then sit the whole game without cheering.  I'm not saying it's everyone but it's certainly noticeable.  They paid for them so I guess that's their prerogative...

[Hards Alumni]

From a business perspective you are absolutely right but I am always surprised by people who pay that much for the tickets and then sit the whole game without cheering.  I'm not saying it's everyone but it's certainly noticeable.  They paid for them so I guess that's their prerogative...

if i had the money and lived in milwaukee i would get tix right in the middle of that crap and stand all game long.

[BrewCity83]

if i had the money and lived in milwaukee i would get tix right in the middle of that crap and stand all game long.

I guess I'm getting to the "older alum" stage (1983 grad)--I'm in 226 row D and stood up for about half of the 2nd half of the Pitt game, along with most of the other alumni in that section.  I won't stand up for extended periods if no one else is up, but when the action heats up, our section pretty much is on its feet.

[Brewtown Andy]

if i had the money and lived in milwaukee i would get tix right in the middle of that crap and stand all game long.

It's not entirely about the money, it's also about how long they've held the tickets, too.