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Title: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: GB Warrior on October 25, 2019, 03:03:09 PM
No weapon found, but still a somber reminder this can happen anywhere.

https://marquettewire.org/4020198/news/mupd-arrests-student-for-video-with-threatening-comment/ (https://marquettewire.org/4020198/news/mupd-arrests-student-for-video-with-threatening-comment/)

Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on October 25, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Sounds like a quick response.  Good for MUPD.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on October 25, 2019, 03:24:20 PM
Destroy this creep. Use Federal terrorism laws to put him away for a long, long time.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: 🏀 on October 25, 2019, 03:29:45 PM
Thought he was showing off some Guns & Ammo magazines reading that.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 25, 2019, 03:30:15 PM
Must bee a millennial, aina?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on October 25, 2019, 03:33:26 PM
We can never know his intent, though.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on October 25, 2019, 03:39:23 PM
We can never know his intent, though.

True. I rushed to judgement. My bad.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: reinko on October 25, 2019, 05:22:37 PM
True. I rushed to judgement. My bad.

Another scalp
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 25, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
We can never know his intent, though.

He would have been better off sabotaging an airplane engine apparently because his intent was just to scare and not bring down a commercial flight....pinky swear.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 26, 2019, 04:50:28 AM
So what did he say in Snapchat that was so threatening?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on October 26, 2019, 11:19:35 PM
Destroy this creep. Use Federal terrorism laws to put him away for a long, long time.


you know nothing, yet you have him in solitary for the rest of his life already???  where did you get your law background from?  middle east or china?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 26, 2019, 11:25:53 PM

you know nothing, yet you have him in solitary for the rest of his life already???  where did you get your law background from?  middle east or china?

Clearly he got it from Canada.

Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on October 27, 2019, 06:18:27 AM
Clearly he got it from Canada.

if jockitch finds out this was a MAGAZINE for a semi-automatic assault rifle, he may totally evacuate his bladder and bowel, demanding nothing short of the death penalty.  i'm praying the kid isn't the son of a cop.  last time i saw him this mad was when he read lincoln outlawed slavery and the jim crow laws were abolished
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: LloydsLegs on October 27, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
Whatever this turns out to be, good job by the RA and MUPD. Better to address potential situation before anything happens.

And can you ALL just hold off on pushing your agendas on our message board at least until you know what the unnatural carnal knowledge happened?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 27, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
Whatever this turns out to be, good job by the RA and MUPD. Better to address potential situation before anything happens.

And can you ALL just hold off on pushing your agendas on our message board at least until you know what the unnatural carnal knowledge happened?

C'mon, Legs. We shoot first and ask questions later around here.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on October 27, 2019, 09:42:27 AM
C'mon, Legs. We shoot first and ask questions later around here.

I’m guessing it was a white student so the cops ask questions first and shoot later.  :)



Apparently, the police thought there was a possibility of an imminent threat since they made an immediate arrest within minutes of being informed. But I guess those idiots jumped to conclusions without all of the facts.


I compare this to the baseball ump who said he was buying a military assault rifle if a person we can’t mention here is impeached. While that isn’t a threat to a specific person, saying it for everyone to hear is an implicit threat which is meant to intimidate and create fear. That, after all, is the real purpose of terrorism.

Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 27, 2019, 10:39:25 AM
I’m guessing it was a white student so the cops ask questions first and shoot later.  :)



Apparently, the police thought there was a possibility of an imminent threat since they made an immediate arrest within minutes of being informed. But I guess those idiots jumped to conclusions without all of the facts.


I compare this to the baseball ump who said he was buying a military assault rifle if a person we can’t mention here is impeached. While that isn’t a threat to a specific person, saying it for everyone to hear is an implicit threat which is meant to intimidate and create fear. That, after all, is the real purpose of terrorism.

I don’t see people questioning the arrest....I see people challenging your statements as judge, jury and executioner....you know, before all the facts are in...the unnatural carnal knowledgeing irony.

You know “destroy the creep”.  It was YOU who said that, without knowing any of the details.  If MUPD wants to arrest out of an abundance of caution, that is fine.  Let’s get the facts before destroying the person...right Brandx?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: real chili 83 on October 27, 2019, 12:07:03 PM
Destroy this creep. Use Federal terrorism laws to put him away for a long, long time.

 Curious, why destroy him based on what we know now? 

Also, what do you mean by destroy? 
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on October 27, 2019, 12:32:13 PM
Curious, why destroy him based on what we know now? 

Also, what do you mean by destroy?

I have no use for people who feel they have a right to intimidate. Doubly so when making either a real or implied threat with weapons.

By “destroy”, I mean prosecute to fullest extent of law. As I said earlier, the quick response of police shows that they took it to be as serious as a heart attack.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 27, 2019, 02:47:01 PM
I have no use for people who feel they have a right to intimidate. Doubly so when making either a real or implied threat with weapons.

By “destroy”, I mean prosecute to fullest extent of law. As I said earlier, the quick response of police shows that they took it to be as serious as a heart attack.

And yet you know of none of the details yet, but you want him destroyed.  Classic.

Justice for Juicy
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on October 27, 2019, 04:58:00 PM
I’m guessing it was a white student so the cops ask questions first and shoot later.  :)



Apparently, the police thought there was a possibility of an imminent threat since they made an immediate arrest within minutes of being informed. But I guess those idiots jumped to conclusions without all of the facts.


I compare this to the baseball ump who said he was buying a military assault rifle if a person we can’t mention here is impeached. While that isn’t a threat to a specific person, saying it for everyone to hear is an implicit threat which is meant to intimidate and create fear. That, after all, is the real purpose of terrorism.

  "guessing"?  "white student"?? 

what does race have to do with this?  i don't care what his ethnicity is.  he deserves a fair, evidentiary hearing.  i don't know how they do things in canada, but that's how we do it down here.   
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on October 27, 2019, 05:03:13 PM
  "guessing"?  "white student"?? 

what does race have to do with this?  i don't care what his ethnicity is.  he deserves a fair, evidentiary hearing.  i don't know how they do things in canada, but that's how we do it down here.

Well, ideally, at least.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 27, 2019, 06:01:16 PM
Well, ideally, at least.

Give him a break. That’s how it works according to Fox News.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: tower912 on October 27, 2019, 06:03:15 PM
I would hope that if MUPD found this Snapchat post to be a threat that they would act quickly.    It is their job.     Better than to wait and see and end up doing thoughts and prayers.   
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Mutaman on October 27, 2019, 06:03:57 PM
  "guessing"?  "white student"?? 

  i don't know how they do things in canada, but that's how we do it down here.

Boo Boo knows this because that's what he experienced when he was recently hauled into court on that peeping tom charge. Now he's an expert on Due Process. ( 20 hours of picking up garbage)
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jay Bee on October 27, 2019, 07:09:08 PM
Give him a break. That’s how it works according to Fox News.

Ban dis gf individual
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: WarriorDad on October 27, 2019, 09:10:30 PM
Snapchat I thought only lasted a brief amount of time.  Never used it, but asking to understand how it functions.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on October 27, 2019, 09:47:36 PM
Ban dis gf individual

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Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: cheebs09 on October 27, 2019, 10:16:40 PM
Snapchat I thought only lasted a brief amount of time.  Never used it, but asking to understand how it functions.

You can take a screenshot of a snap.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 27, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
Maybe the kid is simply “Austere Religious Scholar” and has nothing to do with terrorism.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: mu_hilltopper on October 28, 2019, 07:44:20 AM
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Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: MUBurrow on October 28, 2019, 09:33:59 AM
All the crap aside, it seems the systems worked exactly as they should have here. I wasn't a big fan of deputizing MUPD when it happened, but I wonder if the response would have been as swift under the old Public Safety-Milwaukee PD sytem?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: jsglow on October 28, 2019, 02:47:47 PM
All the crap aside, it seems the systems worked exactly as they should have here. I wasn't a big fan of deputizing MUPD when it happened, but I wonder if the response would have been as swift under the old Public Safety-Milwaukee PD sytem?

Burrow, I'm glad you've rethought your position.  MUPD has been OUTSTANDING and crime on and around campus has dropped significantly.  There had been some initial speculation that a police department would not be conducive to typical college 'growing up' behavior.  Quite the contrary, 'dumb' underclassmen are still safely escorted home without overly serious repercussions.  They know their mission and aren't trying to put kids in cuffs.  What is important is that the 'bad guys' who like to prey on college kids now know there are eyes everywhere.  Likely no area in Milwaukee is more heavily patrolled.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: BM1090 on October 28, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
Snapchat I thought only lasted a brief amount of time.  Never used it, but asking to understand how it functions.

Snapchat "stories" last 24 hours. And as mentioned you can take screenshots.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on October 28, 2019, 05:40:40 PM
Burrow, I'm glad you've rethought your position.  MUPD has been OUTSTANDING and crime on and around campus has dropped significantly.  There had been some initial speculation that a police department would not be conducive to typical college 'growing up' behavior.  Quite the contrary, 'dumb' underclassmen are still safely escorted home without overly serious repercussions.  They know their mission and aren't trying to put kids in cuffs.  What is important is that the 'bad guys' who like to prey on college kids now know there are eyes everywhere.  Likely no area in Milwaukee is more heavily patrolled.


That's good to hear.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: real chili 83 on October 30, 2019, 05:29:40 AM
Any update on this matter?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on October 30, 2019, 07:20:40 AM
Case is being referred to DA’s office.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on October 30, 2019, 08:36:11 AM
Case is being referred to DA’s office.

Is that when they destroy the creep, or would it go to a trial first?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 03, 2019, 08:55:31 AM
Case is being referred to DA’s office.

ok, it was a training magazine-no live bullets and no weapons in the vicinity.  someone with a baseball bat or box cutter would be more dangerous.  he might as well made like a gun with his hand and went "pow pow pow".  i'm sure the DA will find something here but i can't imagine there is anything there there.  it's harmless inanimate object

on the other hand however,  i'm sure there is something in the MU handbook that has more legitimate punitive power.  these guys weren't bright enough to be accepted into our school.  they shouldn't be missed...udub should have some openings
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
Rocket

Kids have now been suspended at some schools for making a finger gun....that’s where we are. 

Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 03, 2019, 09:26:28 AM
Rocket

Kids have now been suspended at some schools for making a finger gun....that’s where we are.

can you believe it?  i know, i should have put that in the teal family-you know, serious post but not too serious ;)

  btw, what about a felon in possession of a "finger gun"?  now that is some serious stuff right there ;)
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: warriorchick on November 03, 2019, 10:21:21 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the disciplinary action is more about the threatening comments (whatever they were) than the magazine.  Its appearance enhances the threat; it doesn't necessarily create it.

I would guess that if the Snapchat was of the student reciting an Emily Dickinson poem while holding the rifle magazine, he wouldn't be nearly in as much trouble.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on November 03, 2019, 10:25:34 AM
And thank god that’s “where we are.” We’ve seen what happens when warning signs aren’t taken seriously. We get people praying and no action being taken.

Want to make threatening comments or gestures? Actions have consequences.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: warriorchick on November 03, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
And thank god that’s “where we are.” We’ve seen what happens when warning signs aren’t taken seriously. We get people praying and no action being taken.

Want to make threatening comments or gestures? Actions have consequences.

This.

Imagine if Marquette had ignored this and something tragic happened.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
And thank god that’s “where we are.” We’ve seen what happens when warning signs aren’t taken seriously. We get people praying and no action being taken.

Want to make threatening comments or gestures? Actions have consequences.

But it's more fun to mock the instances when an abundance of caution proves unnecessary.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 10:40:51 AM
And thank god that’s “where we are.” We’ve seen what happens when warning signs aren’t taken seriously. We get people praying and no action being taken.

Want to make threatening comments or gestures? Actions have consequences.

Do you realize how common guns were back in the day?  My mom’s high school required the GIRLS to take rifle shooting practice for PE.  You bought them at the hardware store.  Teen boys in many parts of the country a gun was the right of passage and usually a gift at age 13 or 16.  Way more prevalent than today.

They are harder to get now than ever before, but what has changed?  That is the issue.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 10:42:52 AM
This.

Imagine if Marquette had ignored this and something tragic happened.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting it should be ignored.


Pakuni, what is being mocked is the comments of ruining lives, etc that Jockey and others immediately went to without all the info....judge, jury, executioner...why is due process such an issue with some these days?  Also very strange.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 03, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
  i never said anything about it being ignored.  i think it was well within MU's jurisdiction and could/should have handled it just fine.  there is nothing here for the DA to get involved in.  if you want to talk about warning signs...don't get me started.  there have been plenty of those that have gone on and i guess because they didn't involve a gun, were not as "credible"
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 11:59:10 AM
  i never said anything about it being ignored.  i think it was well within MU's jurisdiction and could/should have handled it just fine.  there is nothing here for the DA to get involved in.

I don't know exactly what the kid said in his Snapchat - as i ssuepct is the case for everyone here -  but if he did  make some sort of verbal or written threat, then there's absolutely something for the DA to get involved in.

And if you (and Cheeks) aren't mocking, why all the talk of finger guns?
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 03, 2019, 12:03:20 PM
I don't know exactly what the kid said in his Snapchat - as i ssuepct is the case for everyone here -  but if he did  make some sort of verbal or written threat, then there's absolutely something for the DA to get involved in.

And if you (and Cheeks) aren't mocking, why all the talk of finger guns?

 he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse. 
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 12:12:38 PM
he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse.

The law doesn't require one to have immediate access to a weapon - something neither of us know, in the case - in order for a threat to be criminal.
And I'm pretty sure no one here has threatened anything worse than buying Arby's, but maybe I'm forgetting all the times Scoopers have threatened to murder one another.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:21:10 PM
The law doesn't require one to have immediate access to a weapon - something neither of us know, in the case - in order for a threat to be criminal.
And I'm pretty sure no one here has threatened anything worse than buying Arby's, but maybe I'm forgetting all the times Scoopers have threatened to murder one another.

Worse than Arby’s, several of us have been told we would be punched or “taken out”, whatever that means....but I’m sure that was deserved.... ?-(...but you know...stuff happens.

Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
I don't know exactly what the kid said in his Snapchat - as i ssuepct is the case for everyone here -  but if he did  make some sort of verbal or written threat, then there's absolutely something for the DA to get involved in.

And if you (and Cheeks) aren't mocking, why all the talk of finger guns?

I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn’t mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don’t know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don’t know, which is why I said let’s wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn’t mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

Yes, I realize that this is a fact. And rather than positing it as an understandable overreaction and abundance of caution in an environment in which children are all-too-often gunned down in their schools, you mocked it. The only surprise here is that you didn't offer it up as proof of how kids are soft today. Nothing toughens up the young ones quite like threats of being shot.

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I don’t know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don’t know, which is why I said let’s wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind. 

Jockey's remarks about "destroying" the kid were over the top, but we both know he wasn't advocating for the death penalty or life imprisonment, with or without a trial. Your hyperbole is every bit as bad as his.
And if anyone here has threatened to punch or take you out, that's terrible and I hope you reported it to the mods.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:39:33 PM
Yes, I realize that this is a fact. And rather than positing it as an understandable overreaction and abundance of caution in an environment in which children are all-too-often gunned down in their schools, you mocked it. The only surprise here is that you didn't offer it up as proof of how kids are soft today. Nothing toughens up the young ones quite like threats of being shot.

Jockey's remarks about "destroying" the kid were over the top, but we both know he wasn't advocating for the death penalty or life imprisonment, with or without a trial. Your hyperbole is every bit as bad as his.
And if anyone here has threatened to punch or take you out, that's terrible and I hope you reported it to the mods.

Really...how do you DESTROY someone then?  Life imprisonment is one way.  Death penalty is another.  Glad to see after many days you or anyone FINALLY call him out on it, the only one here to do so on your side while the others just go off to their corners to attack folks not on their side.  Classic.

Sorry, I didn’t mock this incident.  I stated facts. Police are in a tough spot, and oh by the way before we rush to judgment there have been arrests for things as silly as finger guns.  Is that the case here?  I don’t know, but I’m also not advocating DESTROYING some one’s life either without any due process, which seems of late to be something certain people no longer give a damn about.  Weird.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on November 03, 2019, 12:39:38 PM
I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn’t mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don’t know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don’t know, which is why I said let’s wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864

So a kid was suspended for 3 days for pointing a finger gun at another kid’s head and saying “Boom?” Totally good with that. He was “goofing around” but, according to CNN, the kid he pointed at didn’t even see it. When I’m “goofing around” with someone it’s usually as an interaction with them, not something they don’t even realize happened at all.

Actions have consequences. And for good reason.

he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse. 

So written bomb threats or “anonymous calls” into a school office or whatever with threats of violence, hit lists, etc. leave nothing to be prosecuted? Aren’t threatening in any way? I mean, unless we’re seeing assault rifles in the bathroom a hit list is posted in or pipe bombs on security camera around the pay phone the call was made there’s no physical threat there...

 :o
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 12:40:10 PM
Worse than Arby’s, several of us have been told we would be punched or “taken out”, whatever that means....but I’m sure that was deserved.... ?-(...but you know...stuff happens.

Deserved.

But that being said there's this in the student code of conduct: "Physically or verbally abusing or threatening any person, on or off the campus, including especially such persons as student staff and Marquette University Police Department officers."

There's also the fact that threatening someone whether there's a weapon or not is illegal. So by that very nature there is something for the DA to get involved with.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: jsglow on November 03, 2019, 12:44:31 PM
I haven't read the thread but the student has been charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct.  My instinct: that feels about right.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:47:13 PM
So a kid was suspended for 3 days for pointing a finger gun at another kid’s head and saying “Boom?” Totally good with that. He was “goofing around” but, according to CNN, the kid he pointed at didn’t even see it. When I’m “goofing around” with someone it’s usually as an interaction with them, not something they don’t even realize happened at all.

Actions have consequences. And for good reason.

So written bomb threats or “anonymous calls” into a school office or whatever with threats of violence, hit lists, etc. leave nothing to be prosecuted? Aren’t threatening in any way? I mean, unless we’re seeing assault rifles in the bathroom a hit list is posted in or pipe bombs on security camera around the pay phone the call was made there’s no physical threat there...

 :o

Sorry Wades, but a 10 year kid playing video games most of his life, watching tv, etc jokingly using a finger gun...the horror.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/cbac9a7ed795219e40e7759a40d2e061/tumblr_njo58u364q1qz581wo4_500.gifv)
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 03, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse. 


It depends on what he said along with the picture. Unless you know what was said, it’s probably best to wait until the DA addresses it.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 12:50:48 PM
Really...how do you DESTROY someone then? 
Life imprisonment is one way.  Death penalty is another.

Dude, you regularly claim peoples' lives are "destroyed" when they're kicked out of school after credible allegations. You claimed a certain SC nominee's life was destroyed because someone accused him of a crime.
But now you want to argue that "destroy" can only mean life imprisonment or execution?
Clearly jockey meant he should be expelled, right?

And I don't believe your denial about the mocking, but I don't expect you'll ever admit to it, so let's drop it.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 12:52:17 PM
Sorry Wades, but a 10 year kid playing video games most of his life, watching tv, etc jokingly using a finger gun...the horror.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/cbac9a7ed795219e40e7759a40d2e061/tumblr_njo58u364q1qz581wo4_500.gifv)

But you're not mocking ...
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:55:07 PM
Deserved.

But that being said there's this in the student code of conduct: "Physically or verbally abusing or threatening any person, on or off the campus, including especially such persons as student staff and Marquette University Police Department officers."

There's also the fact that threatening someone whether there's a weapon or not is illegal. So by that very nature there is something for the DA to get involved with.

LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that’s where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren’t they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I’ll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn’t even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I’m going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby’s and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.


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Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 12:55:44 PM
I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn’t mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don’t know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don’t know, which is why I said let’s wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864

Those two links only mention suspensions not arrests for the finger gun unless I skipped over a portion.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 12:59:42 PM
Those two links only mention suspensions not arrests for the finger gun unless I skipped over a portion.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6015165/finger-gun-arrest-school/

A few weeks ago
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 01:00:40 PM

It depends on what he said along with the picture. Unless you know what was said, it’s probably best to wait until the DA addresses it.

Agree...or did you mean to address this to Jockey and accidentally addressed to Rocket....
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 01:02:44 PM
But you're not mocking ...

Way to drop it...

And no, I am not mocking it...I provided multiple factual points of finger gunning over reactions.

And Jockey said “ Destroy this creep. Use Federal terrorism laws to put him away for a long, long time.”.

Judge. Jury. Executioner.   ZERO DUE PROCESS
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 01:03:45 PM
LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that’s where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren’t they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I’ll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn’t even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I’m going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby’s and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.

I was at least one of the people who made a punch threat and I maintain you deserved it so yes that's where we are.  Don't know about ones others made.

Is a push a threat? I personally don't think so. Now if Theo John gave an interview where he says he's gonna lay  Myles Powell out that seems like a threat. I'd say a push is the least threatening of all physical altercations.

I agree about waiting for more information. But I also think police were more than warranted to get involved. I'm sure every kid was just joking about shooting up places... till they were serious.

If that's what revs your engine on a Sunday you do you.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 01:07:01 PM
https://globalnews.ca/news/6015165/finger-gun-arrest-school/

A few weeks ago

Thanks. Why is it we aren't waiting for more information on these cases? I think there's a difference between that kid playing cops and robbers and a kid doing this saying "I'm going to kill all of you". If they interviewed her and decided to make an arrest clearly it wasn't just a goofing around situation.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 01:07:48 PM
I was at least one of the people who made a punch threat and I maintain you deserved it so yes that's where we are.  Don't know about ones others made.

Is a push a threat? I personally don't think so. Now if Theo John gave an interview where he says he's gonna lay  Myles Powell out that seems like a threat. I'd say a push is the least threatening of all physical altercations.

I agree about waiting for more information. But I also think police were more than warranted to get involved. I'm sure every kid was just joking about shooting up places... till they were serious.

If that's what revs your engine on a Sunday you do you.

I also agree the police did the right thing.  It’s the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn’t report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Cheeks on November 03, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
Thanks. Why is it we aren't waiting for more information on these cases? I think there's a difference between that kid playing cops and robbers and a kid doing this saying "I'm going to kill all of you". If they interviewed her and decided to make an arrest clearly it wasn't just a goofing around situation.

I suspect we will find out...or are you suggesting now that all arrests are justified, never wrong, and always with great clarity...that would be a first from you...when did you arrive at this epiphany?


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Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 01:12:48 PM
I suspect we will find out...or are you suggesting now that all arrests are justified, never wrong, and always with great clarity...that would be a first from you...when did you arrive at this epiphany?

Not at all. I'm saying that from the information provided they seemed to have taken steps to determine whether it was goofing off or an actual threat. If they'd gone in guns drawn for this I'd be calling foul and if she clearly meant this as a threat and they said "oh well just a gun gesture" I'd call foul to.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Pakuni on November 03, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
I also agree the police did the right thing.  It’s the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn’t report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.

Don't be so infantile. I said if that happened, it's terrible and you should report it.
And you calling anyone preachy ....
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: wadesworld on November 03, 2019, 01:15:27 PM
LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that’s where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren’t they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I’ll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn’t even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I’m going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby’s and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.


(https://media1.giphy.com/media/t9JlqB9aUWbja/giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29c8ea8c0534319c3d7f5eb0f13fd31391e960fc75&rid=giphy.gif)

You need some serious help.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2019, 01:19:19 PM
I also agree the police did the right thing.  It’s the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn’t report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.

For the record what I believe i said was meeting you I'd be likely to punch you whereas rocket id just argue with over a beer. It was just after you insinuated I couldn't have loved the baby my ex girlfriend miscarried due to me being pro choice so it was more than deserved. I don't stand by that statement anymore but at the time it was deserved.

So yes pakuni 5yrs ago there was a threat. Mea culpa

I don't recall reading any other threats though.
Title: Re: MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat
Post by: Jockey on November 03, 2019, 01:55:49 PM
But you're not mocking ...

No, he’s just doing his usual political crap.

What do you expect when he doesn’t know the difference between pointing at someone to acknowledge them and someone pretending they are shooting another person.