Oso planning to go pro
At the end of the day it all comes back to the fake tan. Everything else is window dressing. Tom is a freak.
One could say a few. One could say multiple. Two is the actual number.
Crean sucks
lol....but I disagree.I do not mean to but in anyone's business but I too am wonder why we still knock Tom Crean. Let me tell you something...EVERYTHING started with him.Like it or not or whether you want to admit it or not. He brought Buzz here and the entire culture change when he got here. That is the bottom line...There is not a spotless or perfect or stainless program in the country. But the foundation was laid by Tom Crean from Conference USA to the Big East from the old gym to 'the AL'...mark it down...he spearheaded it all. You will never see me be so shallow as to knock or rip Crean or Buzz, Both were absolutely awesome for this University as Men's Basketball Coaches.
It could be argued that it was Kevin O'neil that restarted it I mean Jim macilvine believes it.
So, what's the argument?
https://indiana.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=726&mid=205729292&sid=942&tid=205729292&style=1What they are talking about on the IU board.Maybe they need superfan chico to remind them of his accomplishments
Let's examine life at MU before Tom Crean resuscitated a program that (as TC would have you believe) had gotten the death penalty right after Al retired and did not field a team for 22 years except for when Doc Rivers played by himself:2 Years before - Conference Tourney Champs, NCAA bid, 10 seed, 1st Round 3 Years before - NCAA bid, 4 seed, 2nd Round 4 Years before - NIT Runner-up (IU would kill for one of these in 6 of the past 8 years)5 Years before - NCAA bid 6 seed, Sweet 16
So 3 NCAA bids, 3 NCAA wins and an NIT runner up in the 5 years pre TC versus 5 NCAA bids, 5 NCAA wins and no real NIT success in 9 years with TC. Thanks, Tom, for saving our program. LOL
That we sucked... Bad. Kevin Oneil brings us to two ncaa appearances (s16) next we make the nit championship (not terrible better than flaming out) follow that with two more ncaa appearances. To at least have the program respectable in 90s before crean took over and brought us to a consistent major level.
I am not a Crean hater. I certainly am not a Crean apologist.Crean did reasonably well at Marquette. Helped stabilize the program. Brought in a very good successor. Recruited one of the best, if not THE best, player in school history. Coached us to the Final Four. Of course, that FF was his only great season, beginning to end, but he had a lot of good ones.At Indiana, he has been OK. Going to back-to-back S16s in Years 4 and 5 at IU is good, obviously, but it's hardly legendary stuff. And then to follow that by not even making the NIT despite the presence of two high draft picks, certainly not impressive.Crean has been a good college coach. He clearly doesn't live up to the hype that broadcasters have created, but it's not as if he has been bad.He's not the village idiot. He's not a championship-caliber coach. He's in the middle, right there with dozens and dozens - and hundreds? - of others.
Unless you are secretly longing for TT to return to MU, is there ANY reason for this thread to exist?