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Title: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Eye on July 07, 2022, 07:01:37 AM
Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: tower912 on July 07, 2022, 07:23:42 AM
Congratulations to Henry.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 07, 2022, 07:29:52 AM
Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*

Do we like him or hate him on scoop?
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Newsdreams on July 07, 2022, 07:32:20 AM
Do we like him or hate him on scoop?
Per Two-Face, flip a coin.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on July 07, 2022, 08:03:08 AM
Do we like him or hate him on scoop?

If it weren't for those easy rebounds...

Last MU player since Bo to average a double double in a season (yes, I am rounding up 9.7 due to the Wojo adjustment factor). Mo and Jimmy Chones also accomplished that feat.

Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: dgies9156 on July 07, 2022, 09:29:35 AM
We wish him the best and hope he does very well.

Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Scoop Snoop on July 07, 2022, 10:25:35 AM
We wish him the best and hope he does very well.

Yep.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: BCHoopster on July 07, 2022, 10:27:24 AM
Yep.

Ballpark what does Henry get paid in that league?
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: The Lens on July 07, 2022, 10:45:05 AM
Ballpark what does Henry get paid in that league?

More than your average Rice Lake HS grad (no offense to Lance Allen).
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: PJDunn on July 07, 2022, 10:51:41 AM
Henry is slightly better than Joey. That being said, being paid to live in Spain is pretty damn nice.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 07, 2022, 11:20:24 AM
Henry is slightly better than Joey. That being said, being paid to live in Spain is pretty damn nice.

Uhhhhh what?

Henry was a first round pick that caught a paycheck in the NBA for four years.

Joey Hauser won't sniff the NBA.

They're vastly different in ability.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 07, 2022, 11:27:37 AM
We wish him the best and hope he does very well.

I’m never sure.  He was a Wojo recruit, so some immediately cheer against him, however, he’s a white guy from the hills, so 🤷🏼‍♂️

Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: pbiflyer on July 07, 2022, 11:33:42 AM
Ballpark what does Henry get paid in that league?
Depends on the team and the league. Is he in the first league, or like Luke Fischer, a secondary league. One is a nice living, the other, more middle class.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: oldwarrior81 on July 07, 2022, 11:35:40 AM
I read the average salary in the Spanish pro league is around $130,000.  I think their season includes about 40 regular season games.
But there also can be perks such as housing and a car provided as well.

The salaries for the top end guys is quite a bit better.  Ricky Rubio was said to be earning around $17 million per season.
As a general rule of thumb, the top paid Euro players earn about the same as the average NBA player ($7.7 million)

Vasilije Micić is a top player a few NBA teams are looking to acquire from OKC.  Including Chicago and Milwaukee.
I believe his annual salary is around $6.6 million.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: JakeBarnes on July 07, 2022, 11:52:46 AM
Monbus Obradoiro is part of the ACB league, which is the top tier league. Didn't see much on the salary front, but he seems to be the big signing for them
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: swoopem on July 07, 2022, 01:05:45 PM
Henry would be great on the TBT team

Hopefully he plays in it one year. He’s probably only 26 or 27 still

PS: he could bring Wally too
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on July 07, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
Henry would be great on the TBT team

Hopefully he plays in it one year. He’s probably only 26 or 27 still

PS: he could bring Wally too
He'd be a huge upgrade from Fischer.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: JWags85 on July 07, 2022, 01:51:16 PM
Depends on the team and the league. Is he in the first league, or like Luke Fischer, a secondary league. One is a nice living, the other, more middle class.

Fischer played for Gran Canaria, who was in Liga ACB, which is the top Spanish league.  Not only that, they were a Euroleague club when he was there.  He was never in the second division.

I read the average salary in the Spanish pro league is around $130,000.  I think their season includes about 40 regular season games.
But there also can be perks such as housing and a car provided as well.

The salaries for the top end guys is quite a bit better.  Ricky Rubio was said to be earning around $17 million per season.
As a general rule of thumb, the top paid Euro players earn about the same as the average NBA player ($7.7 million)

Vasilije Micić is a top player a few NBA teams are looking to acquire from OKC.  Including Chicago and Milwaukee.
I believe his annual salary is around $6.6 million.

I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from.  I can assure you Ricky Rubio was never making $17MM at Barcelona before he came to the NBA.  I believe his buyout was around $5MM which was one of the largest in European history.

And those other salary numbers are way off.  I think Mirotic is the highest paid player in Europe right now and he's making like $4.5MM.  Other top guys are maxing at $2-3MM.  And thats maybe 15-20 guys TOTAL in all of Europe.  Nobody is making close to even mid level exception NBA money in Europe.

Its nice money, and it can also be net salary, which is attractive.  But nowhere near what you are claiming.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Herman Cain on July 07, 2022, 02:05:56 PM
Fischer played for Gran Canaria, who was in Liga ACB, which is the top Spanish league.  Not only that, they were a Euroleague club when he was there.  He was never in the second division.

I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from.  I can assure you Ricky Rubio was never making $17MM at Barcelona before he came to the NBA.  I believe his buyout was around $5MM which was one of the largest in European history.

And those other salary numbers are way off.  I think Mirotic is the highest paid player in Europe right now and he's making like $4.5MM.  Other top guys are maxing at $2-3MM.  And thats maybe 15-20 guys TOTAL in all of Europe.  Nobody is making close to even mid level exception NBA money in Europe.

Its nice money, and it can also be net salary, which is attractive.  But nowhere near what you are claiming.
Henry is in the Spanish A League average salaries in the low 100s . With all the perks house car food on top, life is good. Henry had a mediocre year his first year in Europe. Hopefully he can improve this year.  With his size, he should be good for many years in Europe if that is what he wants.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: brewcity77 on July 07, 2022, 02:15:03 PM
Its nice money, and it can also be net salary, which is attractive.  But nowhere near what you are claiming.

I'd be interested in the value of the perks that are often added into Euro salaries. Housing expenses, other living expenses, all the other frills that get added in. Like you said, net salary definitely increases the value. Be curious by how much, though obviously it varies greatly with every contract, so I'm sure difficult to track.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Billy Hoyle on July 07, 2022, 02:29:03 PM
I'd be interested in the value of the perks that are often added into Euro salaries. Housing expenses, other living expenses, all the other frills that get added in. Like you said, net salary definitely increases the value. Be curious by how much, though obviously it varies greatly with every contract, so I'm sure difficult to track.

additionally, they are often paid in cash and exempted from taxes. I had one colleague talk about coming back from playing professional Volleyball in Spain with $60,000 in cash in his backpack and hoping not to get stopped by Customs.

However, there is a decent gap between the haves and have nots in many of the Euro leagues, and for some players, payday is inconsistent, though usually the imports are paid firs.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 07, 2022, 02:39:49 PM
additionally, they are often paid in cash and exempted from taxes. I had one colleague talk about coming back from playing professional Volleyball in Spain with $60,000 in cash in his backpack and hoping not to get stopped by Customs.

However, there is a decent gap between the haves and have nots in many of the Euro leagues, and for some players, payday is inconsistent, though usually the imports are paid firs.

lol not declaring over 10k is a federal crime...   Great way to lose ALL of that money.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on July 07, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
Another example of a drop out who would have made more money by staying in school.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 07, 2022, 03:05:42 PM
Another example of a drop out who would have made more money by staying in school.


Very, very doubtful.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: We R Final Four on July 07, 2022, 03:09:52 PM
Another example of a drop out who would have made more money by staying in school.
No, he wouldn’t have.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 07, 2022, 03:11:22 PM
lol not declaring over 10k is a federal crime...   Great way to lose ALL of that money.

Only if you get caught
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 07, 2022, 03:19:09 PM
Only if you get caught

They 100% would get caught trying to transport 60k hard cash into the US in a bag.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 07, 2022, 03:24:13 PM
LOL, Henry isn't going to be paid in cash. Good lord people. They have banks in Spain you know.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on July 07, 2022, 03:55:30 PM
Another example of a drop out who would have made more money by staying in school.
Henry made more than $5.9M in four seasons.

Sure, a little less than I made staying at Marquette for four years, but still pretty good...
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 07, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Do we like him or hate him on scoop?

Yes
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 07, 2022, 04:19:18 PM
They 100% would get caught trying to transport 60k hard cash into the US in a bag.

Not if you’re smarter than the feds
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on July 07, 2022, 04:28:37 PM
LOL, Henry isn't going to be paid in cash. Good lord people. They have banks in Spain you know.

LOL, please follow along, no one claimed HE was paid in cash.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 07, 2022, 04:32:49 PM
Not if you’re smarter than the feds

60k doesn't fit inside your butthole
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Viper on July 07, 2022, 04:34:44 PM
Not if you’re smarter than the feds
joe is in charge. Boat to Mexico, then walk in.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Johnny B on July 07, 2022, 05:07:11 PM
60k doesn't fit inside your butthole
wolf of wall street?
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 07, 2022, 05:16:50 PM
wolf of wall street?

I'm just assuming pure logistics here, but I don't know you personally. :)
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 07, 2022, 05:18:26 PM
60k doesn't fit inside your butthole

Sounds like you know a lot about smuggling cash across international waters…..
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 07, 2022, 08:06:45 PM
LOL, please follow along, no one claimed HE was paid in cash.

No sh*t.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 07, 2022, 11:23:17 PM
Another example of a drop out who would have made more money by staying in school.

And the scoopest scoop post award goes to....
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: WarriorFan on July 08, 2022, 12:41:08 AM
Nemanja Bjelica, a former Euroleague MVP, after 7 years in the NBA as an important role player and with 162 starts, signed with Fenerbache for $4m over two years.  No way Hank is getting anywhere near that. 
Nevertheless I wish him well and hope he can have a long career.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: HouWarrior on July 08, 2022, 01:02:49 AM
Henry signed for 2 years with Club Joventut Badalona in Badalona, Catalonia, Spain. This is the only team besides Real Madrid to never have been relegated out of the top spanish league. They are usually very competitive and are usually upper tier.

Ricky Rubio played for its youth team as did Rudy Fernandez.

Badalona is a nice sized beach town NE of Barcelona. Gorgeous weather, great food. Dates back to Roman times
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Newsdreams on July 08, 2022, 10:36:16 AM
Henry signed for 2 years with Club Joventut Badalona in Badalona, Catalonia, Spain. This is the only team besides Real Madrid to never have been relegated out of the top spanish league. They are usually very competitive and are usually upper tier.

Ricky Rubio played for its youth team as did Rudy Fernandez.

Badalona is a nice sized beach town NE of Barcelona. Gorgeous weather, great food. Dates back to Roman times
But he is a dropout, COLE
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 08, 2022, 10:45:42 AM
But he is a dropout, COLE

How much money did Dirk lose by not going to college is an unsolvable riddle
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: dgies9156 on July 08, 2022, 03:55:42 PM
Not if you’re smarter than the feds

See you in prison. Plus the bank has to file a Currency Transaction Report ("CTR") and possibly a Suspicious Activity Report ("SAR") on the amount and if a deposit over $10,000 is made, AML/BSA comes into play.

In this world of transnational drug transactions and money laundering, this is an incredibly STUPID idea.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 08, 2022, 03:57:02 PM
See you in prison. Plus the bank has to file a Currency Transaction Report ("CTR") and possibly a Suspicious Activity Report ("SAR") on the amount and if a deposit over $10,000 is made, AML/BSA comes into play.

In this world of transnational drug transactions and money laundering, this is an incredibly STUPID idea.

Laws are meant to be broken - whatever happened to boys will be boys ?
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: lawdog77 on July 08, 2022, 04:25:31 PM
They 100% would get caught trying to transport 60k hard cash into the US in a bag.
In an homage to Billy Hoyle, not even on their radar
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: JWags85 on July 08, 2022, 04:42:04 PM
See you in prison. Plus the bank has to file a Currency Transaction Report ("CTR") and possibly a Suspicious Activity Report ("SAR") on the amount and if a deposit over $10,000 is made, AML/BSA comes into play.

In this world of transnational drug transactions and money laundering, this is an incredibly STUPID idea.

Who deposits over $10K in cash in a single transaction these days?  Even middle schoolers know to break that into a bunch of $5-8K deposits!  8-)
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: MUDPT on July 08, 2022, 05:08:01 PM
Who deposits over $10K in cash in a single transaction these days?  Even middle schoolers know to break that into a bunch of $5-8K deposits!  8-)

I know a former NBA player who was paid a cash bonus by an owner in Russia after a big win. Came in a gym bag. Not sure what he did with the money after.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Newsdreams on July 08, 2022, 05:35:01 PM
Replies are like a Scoop thread...
https://twitter.com/penya1930/status/1544999747118944256?s=21
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: MU86NC on July 08, 2022, 10:30:57 PM
They 100% would get caught trying to transport 60k hard cash into the US in a bag.
Why is that….
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 09, 2022, 08:36:14 AM
Why is that….

I assumed they're flying back commercial... which would mean your bag gets scanned.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 09, 2022, 08:40:55 AM
I assumed they're flying back commercial... which would mean your bag gets scanned.

Athletes are exempt from the scan
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Newsdreams on July 09, 2022, 11:09:06 AM
I assumed they're flying back commercial... which would mean your bag gets scanned.
Even non commercial flights get checked, not scanned. Guy down here on private charter, a musician, got caught with 40k cash. Supposedly payment for performance, said he forgot the $$ was in his luggage. Got 3 years in Fed and 3 years probation.
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 10, 2022, 11:16:58 AM
Athletes are exempt from the scan

Brittany Griner wasn't   :-X
Title: Re: Henry Ellenson signs a two-year deal with a Spanish team*
Post by: panda on July 10, 2022, 12:24:30 PM
Brittany Griner wasn't   :-X

Well yea she’s a woman. They’re not exempt