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Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« on: September 28, 2015, 08:41:13 AM »
Completely forgot that single-game tix went on sale to season ticket holders on Saturday. Logged in late Saturday night and got four for Iowa in the lower bowl, row W. I usually get extras to 1 or 2 big games every year and am usually four rows deep upstairs. I'm seriously frightened about what the Bradley Center is going to look like on a Tuesday night in December against Chicago State.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2015, 08:48:05 AM »
As long as the team wins this year, it will be a one time blip.  If this team doesn't win this year.....next year MU could really be hurting.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2015, 09:10:05 AM »
I'm not so sure.  I bought 50 for Villanova and they are about the same location as last year and I was more on the ball and was in at 12:05
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 10:29:38 AM »
Yeah .. I checked a few single games, and I don't see a huge difference.  Yes, there are a handful of lower bowl tickets, most are in the end-zone, and the last 2-3 rows. 

But upstairs .. I usually buy a bunch of tickets for friends, and the areas we look for are about the same.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 10:47:14 AM »
Completely forgot that single-game tix went on sale to season ticket holders on Saturday. Logged in late Saturday night and got four for Iowa in the lower bowl, row W. I usually get extras to 1 or 2 big games every year and am usually four rows deep upstairs. I'm seriously frightened about what the Bradley Center is going to look like on a Tuesday night in December against Chicago State.

Tickets sales are a lagging indicator.  They are based on how a team did the year before.

When we win the NC with a senior laden team, the next year the place will be sold out.

Like said before, win this year and next year sales will be stronger.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 01:25:01 PM »
My section (219) had a dozen seats available for the Iowa game.  That usually never happens.  Biggest question to me is why didn't more upper bowl ppl move down.  I understand some upper bowl STH have better seats than me, but not all.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 01:27:28 PM »
My section (219) had a dozen seats available for the Iowa game.  That usually never happens.  Biggest question to me is why didn't more upper bowl ppl move down.  I understand some upper bowl STH have better seats than me, but not all.

I think our upper bowl seats (center court, Row C) are much better than many lower bowl seats.

To move to lower bowl seats that we think are better isn't worth what they are asking (IMO).
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 03:42:11 PM »
I think our upper bowl seats (center court, Row C) are much better than many lower bowl seats.

To move to lower bowl seats that we think are better isn't worth what they are asking (IMO).

Of course, I would take yours any day.  Aren't there STH is the upper corners, uppers row L, etc, etc?  Not every Upper STH has it as good as you.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 04:18:27 PM »
I think our upper bowl seats (center court, Row C) are much better than many lower bowl seats.

To move to lower bowl seats that we think are better isn't worth what they are asking (IMO).

You got stairs to deal with.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 06:52:38 PM »
You got stairs to deal with.

Seeing as I am neither lazy nor infirm, it's not an issue.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2015, 08:26:07 PM by warriorchick »
Have some patience, FFS.

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 07:59:51 PM »
My section (219) had a dozen seats available for the Iowa game.  That usually never happens.  Biggest question to me is why didn't more upper bowl ppl move down. 
The cost?

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 08:42:45 PM »
My section (219) had a dozen seats available for the Iowa game.  That usually never happens.  Biggest question to me is why didn't more upper bowl ppl move down.  I understand some upper bowl STH have better seats than me, but not all.

Price?

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 09:52:28 AM »
Price?

I've had the opportunity to purchase lower bowl seats since probably the '11-12 season, but remained upstairs because of the cost. I'm holding off until I'm independently wealthy, (give me 4 or 5 years).

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 08:04:21 AM »
The whole upper vs. lower bowl debate will be moot when the new arena is built.  It will have 3 levels, and they'll tarp off/close/darken the 3rd deck for most MU games.  Likely 10K in the lowest level, 4K in the 2nd, and another 2-3K in the top.  For the MU game that draws 12-14K, it will be ideal.

The projected seating capacity is 16,500.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2015, 08:21:42 AM »
Besides a crappy game product the last few years, I think there are changing demographics going on.  Baby Boomers are becoming snow birds and are simply not around as much in the winter.  The Millenials are burdened with debt with still weak high paying job opportunities.  And there aren't a lot of Gen X and Ys in between.

But mainly, the product has sucked.  There will be a lot of pressure on Wojo to turn it around.

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2015, 08:22:53 AM »
The whole upper vs. lower bowl debate will be moot when the new arena is built.  It will have 3 levels, and they'll tarp off/close/darken the 3rd deck for most MU games.  Likely 10K in the lowest level, 4K in the 2nd, and another 2-3K in the top.  For the MU game that draws 12-14K, it will be ideal.

The projected seating capacity is 16,500.

I like that. 16,500 is a size that we could sell out pretty regularly. And if we can't, just darken the third deck and it will look like we are full!
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2015, 09:21:00 AM »
Here are some comparable attendance numbers:

Nova-9,639
G'town-9,630
St. John's-7,463
Seton Hall-7,587

MU may see a reduction in tickets sold, and fannies in seats, over the next few year, as we move closer to these peer institutions.  However, the new venue will make it look and feel more like a MU in the 70s/80s MECCA experience and less like a All-State Arena-De Paul experience.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2015, 11:00:47 PM »
The annual reseating process is a pain for many people.  It wakes up the sleeping dogs and is more complicated than simply writing a check or automatically debiting an account.   It takes some sort of active participation every year and there is a decent chance your seats will be different from the year prior.  I bet this process is contributing to cancellations.

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 07:35:24 AM »
The annual reseating process is a pain for many people.  It wakes up the sleeping dogs and is more complicated than simply writing a check or automatically debiting an account.   It takes some sort of active participation every year and there is a decent chance your seats will be different from the year prior.  I bet this process is contributing to cancellations.

Are you saying that people are choosing to forgo the entire season simply because of the extra few minutes reseating takes?  I doubt that number reaches double digits.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2015, 07:51:07 AM »
Are you saying that people are choosing to forgo the entire season simply because of the extra few minutes reseating takes?  I doubt that number reaches double digits.

People have to actively choose to re-up every year instead of just having the automatic payments take care of it.

I would expect to see more volatility in the season ticket purchasing because of that active choice having to be made every year instead of every two.

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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2015, 08:56:04 AM »
If a couple sweater vests drop out because of the minimal hassle of logging onto your computer once a year to renew tickets, thereby allowing me to leapfrog them in priority points and get better seats, I'm OK with that.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2015, 09:37:14 AM »
The annual reseating process is a pain for many people.  It wakes up the sleeping dogs and is more complicated than simply writing a check or automatically debiting an account.   It takes some sort of active participation every year and there is a decent chance your seats will be different from the year prior.  I bet this process is contributing to cancellations.

Is it a pain for many people?

From my chair, it couldn't be an easier process that has resulted in the same seats five years running.

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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2015, 10:21:27 AM »
Here are some comparable attendance numbers:

Nova-9,639
G'town-9,630
St. John's-7,463
Seton Hall-7,587

MU may see a reduction in tickets sold, and fannies in seats, over the next few year, as we move closer to these peer institutions.  However, the new venue will make it look and feel more like a MU in the 70s/80s MECCA experience and less like a All-State Arena-De Paul experience.

Nova and St. John's attendance numbers don't tell the full story on their attendance.  Given their games in the Pavilion and Carnesecca Arena respectively, their average is much lower than it would be if they played every game at Wells Fargo or MSG.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2015, 10:25:34 AM »
The whole upper vs. lower bowl debate will be moot when the new arena is built.  It will have 3 levels, and they'll tarp off/close/darken the 3rd deck for most MU games.  Likely 10K in the lowest level, 4K in the 2nd, and another 2-3K in the top.  For the MU game that draws 12-14K, it will be ideal.

The projected seating capacity is 16,500.

Marquette averaged 14,318 paid in the Bradley Center last season.

I don't think anything is getting tarped off.
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Re: Ticket sales seem to be way down...
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2015, 11:14:32 AM »
The whole upper vs. lower bowl debate will be moot when the new arena is built.  It will have 3 levels, and they'll tarp off/close/darken the 3rd deck for most MU games.  Likely 10K in the lowest level, 4K in the 2nd, and another 2-3K in the top.  For the MU game that draws 12-14K, it will be ideal.

The projected seating capacity is 16,500.

How do we know the new arena will be three decks? There has not been a design out.

 

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