New Scorsese Flick

[MuggsyB]

I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman. 

[Uncle Rico]

I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman.

Too woke.  Highlights the genocide of Native Americans

[MuggsyB]

Too woke.  Highlights the genocide of Native Americans

I never wrote it's too woke. 

[Uncle Rico]

I never wrote it's too woke.

I wrote it’s too woke.  Native Americans didn’t have it that bad.  People forget we brought them Christianity.  I don’t want to see a movie that doesn’t celebrate American history.

Also, 95 % on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.8/10 on IMBD and 9/10 on IGN, so sure, mixed reviews

[ATL MU Warrior]

I wrote it’s too woke.  Native Americans didn’t have it that bad.  People forget we brought them Christianity.  I don’t want to see a movie that doesn’t celebrate American history.

Also, 95 % on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.8/10 on IMBD and 9/10 on IGN, so sure, mixed reviews

And blankets. They must have been freezing before we helped them.

[Uncle Rico]

And blankets. They must have been freezing before we helped them.

Hope boycotts are being planned

[cheebs09]

I loved the book. I’m not sure if I’m willing to invest 3.5 hours into the movie.

[PGsHeroes32]

I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman.

I'm concerned about your reading

[Lennys Tap]

I loved the book. I’m not sure if I’m willing to invest 3.5 hours into the movie.

I love the book, too.

[MUBurrow]

In a separate chapter of the deplorable treatment of Native Americans, did anyone catch the first half of Ken Burns's The American Buffalo on PBS last night? It was brutally great.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/killers-of-the-flower-moon/

[MuggsyB]

In a separate chapter of the deplorable treatment of Native Americans, did anyone catch the first half of Ken Burns's The American Buffalo on PBS last night? It was brutally great.

Beyond sad what the 🦬 population has endured.  One of the worst genocides in history.  It doesn't bother me in the slightest when they get mad and charge douchebags that want selfles.

[Lennys Tap]

Too woke.  Highlights the genocide of Native Americans

? The book (and I assume the movie) are very anti genocide. The woke in the US (at least on campuses and in Congress) are just the opposite.

[Jockey]

Beyond sad what the 🦬 population has endured.  One of the worst genocides in history.  It doesn't bother me in the slightest when they get mad and charge douchebags that want selfles.

Considering that you are calling for killing millions in another thread, you comment is redundant.

[Uncle Rico]

? The book (and I assume the movie) are very anti genocide. The woke in the US (at least on campuses and in Congress) are just the opposite.

🤔

[MuggsyB]

Considering that you are calling for killing millions in another thread, you comment is redundant.

Stop distorting my words and attacking the 🦬 population. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Can I get clarification on the mixed reviews

Still confused where that verdict was made

[tower912]

The Osage film consultant doesn't like it.

[MuggsyB]

Can I get clarification on the mixed reviews

Still confused where that verdict was made

I saw a few poor reviews but I guess most were favorable. 

[Uncle Rico]

I saw a few poor reviews but I guess most were favorable.

Hang this in The Louvre

Saw a few poor reviews and started a thread saying it’s getting mixed reviews.

Then say I guess most were favorable when it has a 95% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 91% on Metacritic with 32 positive reviews, 3 mixed and 0 negative.  Yes, I guess most were favorable.

Fantastic

[MuggsyB]

Hang this in The Louvre

Saw a few poor reviews and started a thread saying it’s getting mixed reviews.

Then say I guess most were favorable when it has a 95% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 91% on Metacritic with 32 positive reviews, 3 mixed and 0 negative.  Yes, I guess most were favorable.

Fantastic

Bad analogy. 

[Uncle Rico]

Holding steady at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Up to 91 on Metacritc with 43 positive reviews and 3 mixed reviews

[tower912]

Proving Muggsy's point of having seen mixed reviews.

[MuggsyB]

Holding steady at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Up to 91 on Metacritc with 43 positive reviews and 3 mixed reviews

The Irishman was 95% on RT.  But other reviewers weren't so kind.  Besides Pesci the flick had some probs. 

[Uncle Rico]

The Irishman was 95% on RT.  But other reviewers weren't so kind.  Besides Pesci the flick had some probs.

What does that have to do with this movie or your original post being wrong?

Also, The Irishman is the perfect ending to his Italian mob trilogy.  Perfectly showed the sad lives of mobsters, their families and associates. 

[MuggsyB]

What does that have to do with this movie or your original post being wrong?

Also, The Irishman is the perfect ending to his Italian mob trilogy.  Perfectly showed the sad lives of mobsters, their families and associates.

I read the review in the SF Chronicle and it wasn’t favorable.  But I guess shouldn't have wrote mixed reviews. 

[MuggsyB]

Interestingly enough the WSJ gave the film a dud review and ripped the casting of Leo and De Niro. 

[tower912]

Redemption for muggsy!

[Uncle Rico]

Redemption for muggsy!

Down to 92% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, only 86% by viewers.  Definitely a movie with mixed reviews.

Couple that with Scorsese’s anti-white assessment of the treatment of Native Americans and I’ll pass.  Also, I’m boycotting Deniro anyway for being mean to President Trump

[MuggsyB]

Down to 92% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, only 86% by viewers.  Definitely a movie with mixed reviews.

Couple that with Scorsese’s anti-white assessment of the treatment of Native Americans and I’ll pass.  Also, I’m boycotting Deniro anyway for being mean to President Trump

Did you like Kundun?

[Uncle Rico]

Did you like Kundun?

Never saw it

[MuggsyB]

Never saw it

I'm not sure he's made a great film since The Departed.  Good films, not great. 

[Uncle Rico]

I'm not sure he's made a great film since The Departed.  Good films, not great.

The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better

[MuggsyB]

The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better

I disagree.  Although Damon may have been miscast.  I wonder if Nicholson is doing alright?  Tremendous actor. 

[Pakuni]

The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better

Yes.
And no.

[Lennys Tap]

The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better

Maybe

No way

[Hards Alumni]

I disagree.  Although Damon may have been miscast.  I wonder if Nicholson is doing alright?  Tremendous actor.

He's 86 and hasn't exactly been a paragon of moderation, but he's undoubtedly one of the GOATs.

[Hards Alumni]

Personally, I think Scorsese's best film was Gangs of New York... with Goodfellas a very close second.  Now there's a little controversy.   

[Uncle Rico]

Personally, I think Scorsese's best film was Gangs of New York... with Goodfellas a very close second.  Now there's a little controversy.   

Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis

[Hards Alumni]

Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis

My only two critiques as well, though I'm not sure anyone at DiCaprio's age at the time could have matched DDL.

[Uncle Rico]

My only two critiques as well, though I'm not sure anyone at DiCaprio's age at the time could have matched DDL.

Correct.  It’s really beautifully shot and captures what cities were.  Would have been inconceivable to the “big cities scare me now crowd of 2023”

[Hards Alumni]

Correct.  It’s really beautifully shot and captures what cities were.  Would have been inconceivable to the “big cities scare me now crowd of 2023”

For sure.  I feel like I could pause that movie at any moment and look around for ten minutes.  The cinematography is easily the best of any movie he's made.

[MuggsyB]

Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis

Agreed.  D-D-L actually saved the picture from being mediocre.  He's truly elite, perhaps the 🐐. 

[MuggsyB]

D-D-L insists he's done.  I wonder why Tarantino doesn't get him in his last film?  Obviously Jack and D-D-L are the top of the totem pole. 

[Pakuni]

Not his best, but "After Hours" is sneaky great.

[PGsHeroes32]

Interestingly enough the WSJ gave the film a dud review and ripped the casting of Leo and De Niro.

Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.

I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective

But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.

I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.

[Uncle Rico]

Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.

I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective

But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.

I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.

The movie is woke

[WhiteTrash]

Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.

I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective

But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.

I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.

I'm a huge fan of Deniro but his work has fallen off. Understandably  so.

[Golden Avalanche]

I'm a huge fan of Deniro but his work has fallen off. Understandably  so.

Lots of wives. Lots of kids. The work never ceases. 

[MU82]

Oklahoma doesn’t want to allow even high school kids to learn about the horrific treatment of the Osage people and other Native Americans.

State leaders don’t want whitey to feel “guilty.”

Also: Raging Bull is Scorsese’s all-time masterpiece.

[Lennys Tap]

Taxi Driver
Goodfellows
Raging Bull
Shutter Island

[MU82]

Taxi Driver
Goodfellows
Raging Bull
Shutter Island

I rewatched Taxi Driver a couple months ago and while it obviously showed its age, I still found it riveting. Good choice, Lenny.

Raging Bull is a top-10, maybe even top-5 movie all-time for me. Scorsese and DeNiro both at their peak.

[🏀]

DeNiro in Deer Hunter is a masterpiece.

[Lennys Tap]

DeNiro in Deer Hunter is a masterpiece.

So are Christopher Walken, John Cazale, Meryl Streep, etc. but We’re talking Scorsese and he didn’t do Deer Hunter.

[Pakuni]

Tangentially related to "Goodfellas" (or Goodfellows) ...

A notorious Bonanno crime family capo once linked to the infamous Lufthansa heist at JFK airport depicted in the movie “Goodfellas,” has died three years after he was released from prison for health reasons.
Vincent Asaro, 86, was part of a cadre of mobsters charged with making off with nearly $6 million in the 1978 airport robbery. He beat the rap in 2015 — only to get jailed on an unrelated road rage arson conviction.

https://news.yahoo.com/mobster-charged-heist-inspired-goodfellas-232208741.html

[JWags85]

Thank god he didn't buy any fur coats.

[MuggsyB]

I finally saw it, after reading the book.  Monumentally disappointed.  The book was excellent too.