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Title: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Wade for President on January 05, 2012, 01:33:27 PM
I have to admit, I was thinking about the Cuse game a lot last night during the G'town game.  Ironically, within 13 minutes, I thought about it from two completely different angles.

When we were up 15-17 points, I was thinking how great it was going to be heading into Saturday with a 2-0 Big East record.  With a G'town win in the bag (riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight), my mind began to think that we could go into Syracuse, beat the #1 team in the nation, and then squarely be the Team of the Week (in ESPN's Weekly Watch).

As MU fans (and let's face it, if you're on this site as much as I am, the term "fan" is as much of a disservice as calling a Ferrari just another car), we toe the fine line of insanity with each made/miss shot.  With that said, it's amazing how 13 minutes and 12 seconds can completely alter your perception of Saturday's date with the Orange.

Will another "debacle" (Buzz's term for the Vandy performance), completely crush any confidence and/or optimism the team has for Saturday?  Will Cuse want bittersweet revenge over last year's Sweet 16 loss (I'm talking about a 25-30 point drubbing)?  Could the G'town collapse possibly make us more focused and more motivated to right our recent wrongs?

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 05, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
There is no quit in that dog...they will be back.  Of course, that dog will be wearing its choke collar  ;)
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 05, 2012, 01:51:37 PM
I am (as usual) pessimistic. I think these kids work hard, but we are once again back to being undersized. Plus, I.m not seeing that Zar/JFB type of hoss that's going to put this team on their back. Buzz is a good recruiter, but not a strong situational game coach. Then again, let's not think about how much $ I lost in last year's tournament with the thinking that we were lucky to beat them once, now Fab Melo has developed and we don't stand a chance. My hope is that they can put this (second) debacle behind them and play their asses off.
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Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Nothing changed for me. I thought we could beat 'Cuse yesterday, I still think that today. I thought losing was more likely yesterday, I still think that today. My main change is that had we won yesterday, I'd be if the opinion that if we followed that up with a win Saturday we would be the front-runners for the Big East title. Now, even if we win, we're still looking up.
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Post by: 79Warrior on January 05, 2012, 02:00:25 PM

Highly unlikely we win in the Carrier Dome. They are super tough at home and we will be forced to take jump shots all game. We just do not have the horses to beat them on the road unless cuse plays ragged.
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Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 05, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
Anything is possible...yesterday will be a great teaching point for Buzz, especially for Mayo. Right now last nights loss still stings, but I think at the end of the year it will be serve as something this team can build off of, especially when we travel to Nova, ND, UConn, and Cincy later in the year.
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Post by: ringout on January 05, 2012, 03:17:06 PM
Anything is possible...yesterday will be a great teaching point for Buzz, especially for Mayo. Right now last nights loss still stings, but I think at the end of the year it will be serve as something this team can build off of, especially when we travel to Nova, ND, UConn, and Cincy later in the year.

What he said.
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Post by: nyg on January 05, 2012, 03:39:44 PM
Cuse is very talented and deep, especially with Fair and Waiters coming off the bench.  The Carrier Dome is a tough environment and I believe MU will still feel the mental effects of the Georgetown loss.  I don't see a win, but I hope they don't get throttled.  
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: mr.MUskie on January 05, 2012, 03:46:24 PM
I'm expecting another painful experience, although I expect it to start sooner than the last 13 minutes.
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Post by: bamamarquettefan on January 05, 2012, 03:57:54 PM
I am more confident of a win against Syracuse after the Georgetown game then before it.  And by more I mean we have a 30% chance instead of the 15% i would have given us.

AS A WHOLE, last night was the first excellent game we have played without Otule.  I don't care as much about the order of points.  A couple of years ago Cuse was blowing us out by like 20 and we cut it back to a couple of points on Lazar's and-one off a flagrant foul (never thought I'd see that).  For me getting blown out by 20 in one half and winning 15 by another half isn't that much difference - find something that works and the other side adjusts.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Earl Tatum on January 05, 2012, 04:15:07 PM
Custer vs. the Indians. BAD!!
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Post by: RJax55 on January 05, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Typical of the Buzz era, even though 'Cuse is at home, more talented, and has something to prove to MU, I think this game will be close. Don't know how, but it will be.

Edit: Although it will be close, 'Cuse wins.
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Post by: JD on January 05, 2012, 05:10:10 PM
For some reason, and of course i have NO stats to back this genius prediction up of mine...

Marquette is going to win by 6.

Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: MU82 on January 05, 2012, 05:36:26 PM
I have to admit, I was thinking about the Cuse game a lot last night during the G'town game.  Ironically, within 13 minutes, I thought about it from two completely different angles.

When we were up 15-17 points, I was thinking how great it was going to be heading into Saturday with a 2-0 Big East record.  With a G'town win in the bag (riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight), my mind began to think that we could go into Syracuse, beat the #1 team in the nation, and then squarely be the Team of the Week (in ESPN's Weekly Watch).

As MU fans (and let's face it, if you're on this site as much as I am, the term "fan" is as much of a disservice as calling a Ferrari just another car), we toe the fine line of insanity with each made/miss shot.  With that said, it's amazing how 13 minutes and 12 seconds can completely alter your perception of Saturday's date with the Orange.

Will another "debacle" (Buzz's term for the Vandy performance), completely crush any confidence and/or optimism the team has for Saturday?  Will Cuse want bittersweet revenge over last year's Sweet 16 loss (I'm talking about a 25-30 point drubbing)?  Could the G'town collapse possibly make us more focused and more motivated to right our recent wrongs?

What do you guys think?


Went through many of the same emotions.

When we were up big against GTown, I told my wife that I was thinking maybe we should go to a bar with a few other local Marquetters to watch the Syracuse game. (I don't have that TV package at home, meaning I'll have to watch it on ESPN3 unless I go to a bar that has Big East Net.)

After we lost and my mood was ruined, I was thinking, "Why bother going to a bar and spending money on food and drink just to watch us get killed by Syracuse."

Now that my inner voice of reason has returned, I'm undecided on exactly what I'll do. I'm going to watch it somewhere, but I still have to admit I'm not looking forward to it as much.

Damn human nature. Gets the better of me every time.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 05, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
I've felt Cuse would handle MU easily for the last few weeks. A win last night wouldn't have changed that opinion. Unless MU plays a perfect 40 like the Hoyas last 20, they'll be coming home under the gun at 1-2.
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Post by: Blackhat on January 05, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
I had to leave the bar early during the North Carolina game.    Never forget that day.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: We R Final Four on January 05, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
Not good.  Only way I see it is a lights out (+60) from 3s. I don't see how we control Melo on either end.
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Post by: real chili 83 on January 05, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
We beat the livin' piss out of them, just like last time!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRH!

Go Warriors!      ;D
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: mubb34 on January 05, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
We are going to need our players show up to playand shoot the ball very well....College Bball baby!!!! You never know what can happen!
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Blackhat on January 05, 2012, 07:37:32 PM
I know Syracuse will shoot greater than 60 eFg% during one half.
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Post by: 4everwarriors on January 05, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
Bring the Windex 'cause ya gonna need it to win.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 05, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
I know Syracuse will shoot greater than 60 eFg% during one half.

That's conservative.
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Post by: madtownwarrior on January 05, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
given the talent on Syracuse, at the Carrier Dome and payback desired for knocking them out of the NCAA, I expect Syracuse come outs on fire and gets a big lead and does not lose the big lead....  Cuse by 18
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 05, 2012, 08:50:39 PM
Anyone takin' the "over"?
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Post by: MattyWarrior on January 05, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
I love my Warriors, but I see us takin a thumpin by 10 or more, unless they get the flu or something.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: mr.MUskie on January 05, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
given the talent on Syracuse, at the Carrier Dome and payback desired for knocking them out of the NCAA, I expect Syracuse come outs on fire and gets a big lead and does not lose the big lead....  Cuse by 118



...at the half.  Second half 'Cuse really starts playing.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Jacks DC on January 05, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
I think we have a chance if the letdown motivates us and DJO or Mayo has a huge shooting night.  We have nothig to lose, Syracuse is due for a loss, we've played fairly well on the road and beat this team twice last year.  All that being said, I just don't see it happening.

Still, I think at GU and at Cuse are our toughest games of the year.  UConn is so overrated and we get Louisville at home.  After Saturday it gets easier.
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Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 05, 2012, 09:46:59 PM
I think we have a chance if the letdown motivates us and DJO or Mayo has a huge shooting night.  We have nothig to lose, Syracuse is due for a loss, we've played fairly well on the road and beat this team twice last year.  All that being said, I just don't see it happening.

Still, I think at GU and at Cuse are our toughest games of the year.  UConn is so overrated and we get Louisville at home.  After Saturday it gets easier.

I agree 100%.

This is the year MU could really do some damage in the conference. Only Cuse is the clearly superior team. Looking at that fixture list, it's not hard to envision the team rattling up a 7-2 or 8-2 record until February.

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Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
Still, I think at GU and at Cuse are our toughest games of the year.  UConn is so overrated and we get Louisville at home.  After Saturday it gets easier.

Agreed on most of this, but disagree on UConn. Well, somewhat. I think they are overrated right now. But UConn's three best players are three sophomores and a freshman. Oriakhi hasn't played well yet, but you have to imagine he'll pick it up. This team was always going to be overrated early because they won a title last year, but that doesn't mean they won't be very good eventually. I think that by mid-February, they'll start to play up to their near-limitless potential. There's nearly as much talent on that roster as there is at Ohio State, Kentucky, or UNC.

I really wish we had them this week or next and not February 18.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 05, 2012, 10:56:58 PM
if only Ditka was our coach.
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Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 05, 2012, 11:03:19 PM
I think they pound us into oblivion.


Personally Im praying we just hang around all game, thats our only chance. If we ever get up by 10 in first 25 or so minutes.......LOSS.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: mubb34 on January 06, 2012, 12:03:43 AM
Most of the Cuse fans think they are going to run us out of the gym...We need to show them why they are running to the ACC
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Wade for President on January 06, 2012, 05:00:10 AM
If we hit the three ball early, we have a chance to avoid that Vandy deer-in-the-headlights look.

I think we'll keep it within 6-8 points shortly after halftime, and ultimately lose by 15.

I really think payback is going to be a huge motivating factor for Cuse and their crowd.  I just don't want this to get ugly (maybe it's a good think it's not being broadcast on a big channel).
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Post by: MU82 on January 06, 2012, 07:48:32 AM
if only Ditka was our coach.
My friend.
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: ecompt on January 06, 2012, 09:17:27 AM
We will play hard, but Syracuse's second five (they have 19 players on their active roster -- I guess six are academic scholarships) are better than our starters, and it's not close. Unless we hit a minimum of 15 threes, we lose by 20.
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Post by: hoyasincebirth on January 06, 2012, 10:36:55 AM
I've always been afraid of facing good teams coming off of a loss. That's why I was so happy you guys beat Nova. I think this gives you an even better chance of beating Cuse this weekend. You'll be hungry they'll be over confident. Juice the Orange!
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Post by: lab_warrior on January 06, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ibiJiZddQf4/To0wmfRq84I/AAAAAAAAAkM/ZTCCAM0DRUY/s1600/howareyou_grey.jpg)

Going to go with anxious, suspicious, and frustrated going into the game, depressed, angry, and exhausted if we lose, and surprised, ecstatic, and smug when we win. 

Also totally agree this is the rough patch of the schedule.  It would be REALLY SUPER DUPER to get a win Saturday, for a lot of reasons. 
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 06, 2012, 10:46:40 PM
I'm sick of reading how we're gonna get killed, unless we hit 15 threes. I hope we can stay composed and I can't stand JB.
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Post by: 4everwarriors on January 07, 2012, 05:00:56 AM
Simple, then don't watch da Bulls.
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Post by: Real Chilly Podcast on January 07, 2012, 06:09:47 AM
hey y'all, longtime listener, first time caller... yadda yadda yadda

what with this being such a huge game and seemingly everest-like odds, I figure we could all use a little bit of encouragement.

while with the majority here decree warriors forever n' whatnot, no marquette fan can dispute the badassness of this majestic creature that we honor by taking the court as its namesake

let's win this game!

(http://i.imgur.com/uoQAE.jpg)
Title: Re: So...How are you feeling about Cuse on Saturday now?
Post by: Wade for President on January 07, 2012, 07:01:42 AM
hey y'all, longtime listener, first time caller... yadda yadda yadda

what with this being such a huge game and seemingly everest-like odds, I figure we could all use a little bit of encouragement.

while with the majority here decree warriors forever n' whatnot, no marquette fan can dispute the badassness of this majestic creature that we honor by taking the court as its namesake

let's win this game!

(http://i.imgur.com/uoQAE.jpg)

Pretty solid first post.  Gotta go out and battle today.  Nothing to lose (god knows pride went out the door in the Vandy blowout).
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Post by: DoggyDaddy on January 07, 2012, 08:52:19 AM
Because expectations are so low (+11), nothing to lose here but much to gain. I see a spirited game led by Jae who must now take charge but stay within himself--no cheap fouls! If he hits his first three, we win.     
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Post by: MattyWarrior on January 07, 2012, 12:05:47 PM
We get tired, because Buzz won't use all our guys and we get blown out.
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Post by: Les Nessman on January 07, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
Not really sure. I'll let you know after the game is played.
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Post by: Windyplayer on January 07, 2012, 01:10:26 PM
If he hits his first three, we win.     
But no guarantees if we go up by 17 in the second half.