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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Warrior of Law on March 07, 2020, 04:13:53 PM

Title: Big donors
Post by: Warrior of Law on March 07, 2020, 04:13:53 PM
Assuming there's interest in a buy-out of the coach's contract, who are the big MU donors that will force the issue? I honestly have no idea. If it's up to Lovell, I think Wojo stays forever.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Big Papi on March 07, 2020, 04:18:02 PM
I don't see Wojo being bought out or fired or any such thing.  While his seat might not be hot from administration, I do think he is feeling the heat from the fans and the best bet might be for him to look, flirt and find greener pastures.  Wasn't there a rumor last year about him looking at another job?  He is gone if he can find something.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 07, 2020, 04:22:28 PM
I don't see Wojo being bought out or fired or any such thing.  While his seat might not be hot from administration, I do think he is feeling the heat from the fans and the best bet might be for him to look, flirt and find greener pastures.  Wasn't there a rumor last year about him looking at another job?  He is gone if he can find something.

i heard the sobelmans on port road has some openings
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Blackhat on March 07, 2020, 04:22:35 PM
The huge donors are our children now a days.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 04:24:27 PM
I don't see Wojo being bought out or fired or any such thing.  While his seat might not be hot from administration, I do think he is feeling the heat from the fans and the best bet might be for him to look, flirt and find greener pastures.  Wasn't there a rumor last year about him looking at another job?  He is gone if he can find something.

I think the window for Wojo to land at another P6 school has closed. That would be a tough hire to sell to any P6 fan base. I can’t picture what the spin would be if he took an obvious step down and pay cut.

Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 07, 2020, 04:25:39 PM
I think the window for Wojo to land at another P6 school has closed. That would be a tough hire to sell to any P6 fan base. I can’t picture what the spin would be if he took an obvious step down and pay cut.

This was fantasy long before this meltdown
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: willie warrior on March 07, 2020, 04:26:26 PM
I don't see Wojo being bought out or fired or any such thing.  While his seat might not be hot from administration, I do think he is feeling the heat from the fans and the best bet might be for him to look, flirt and find greener pastures.  Wasn't there a rumor last year about him looking at another job?  He is gone if he can find something.
Coack k needs a shoe shine assistant.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Boone on March 07, 2020, 04:33:38 PM
We're the only program stupid enough to have Wojo on the payroll. Nice job, MU
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: bilsu on March 07, 2020, 04:34:42 PM
I am not sure that MU's really big donors are basketball fans.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
I am not sure that MU's really big donors are basketball fans.

Dick Strong is done giving monster checks to hoops.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: muguru on March 07, 2020, 05:02:34 PM
Dick Strong is done giving monster checks to hoops.

Ironically enough, because of the Wojo hiring by Lovell. Guess Strong was smart, huh??
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 07, 2020, 05:07:29 PM
Ironically enough, because of the Wojo hiring by Lovell. Guess Strong was smart, huh??
What was his objection?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 79Warrior on March 07, 2020, 05:08:59 PM
I am not sure that MU's really big donors are basketball fans.

I am not sure MU really has that many "big donors". Strong was by far the largest for hoops and he left the tent.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 05:09:14 PM
What was his objection?

Correct me if I’m wrong but he was all in on Shaka and even flew to meet him. Then he hopped on a plane to go overseas and got a text MU had a new coach.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 07, 2020, 05:14:04 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but he was all in on Shaka and even flew to meet him. Then he hopped on a plane to go overseas and got a text MU had a new coach.

That’s half right, Shaka backed out last minute. Instead of reaching back out to Strong to discuss another potential coach, they just hired wojo.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Warrior of Law on March 07, 2020, 05:29:53 PM
So, MU can't afford a buyout, and Wojo has no other coaching options. A marriage made in heaven!
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Gato78 on March 07, 2020, 05:30:32 PM
This is all wrong. FWIW Strong supported Ben Howland.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 07, 2020, 05:35:14 PM
One call.......That’s all!!!!!
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 05:44:22 PM
One call.......That’s all!!!!!

He’s not that rich!
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 05:50:59 PM
I don't see Wojo being bought out or fired or any such thing.  While his seat might not be hot from administration, I do think he is feeling the heat from the fans and the best bet might be for him to look, flirt and find greener pastures.  Wasn't there a rumor last year about him looking at another job?  He is gone if he can find something.
This very well might be right but it’s disgusting if true. He’s had everything he’s needed from support, time and resources to show what he’s worth as a head coach and the answer is painfully clear. I’ll continue to count down the days until a change is made.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 07, 2020, 05:53:41 PM
He’s not that rich!

Spends a lot on T shirts. 

Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: LAZER on March 07, 2020, 05:54:02 PM
This is all wrong. FWIW Strong supported Ben Howland.
Glad they didn’t listen to him.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2020, 05:56:12 PM
Figurin' Ma and Pa are da next couple up, aina?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: curbina on March 07, 2020, 06:19:39 PM
Ironically enough, because of the Wojo hiring by Lovell. Guess Strong was smart, huh??

I can’t get understand that!

Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: We R Final Four on March 07, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
I can’t get understand that!
? I can’t either....
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 07, 2020, 09:35:41 PM
This is all wrong. FWIW Strong supported Ben Howland.

He's a smart man...
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: keefe on March 07, 2020, 10:07:38 PM
Figurin' Ma and Pa are da next couple up, aina?


Weren't they instrumental in the hiring of Coach Peters?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 🏀 on March 07, 2020, 10:10:31 PM
This is all wrong. FWIW Strong supported Ben Howland.

As usual, Gato is correct.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: The Lens on March 07, 2020, 10:25:48 PM
One call.......That’s all!!!!!

Lol, that guy has no money
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 10:28:43 PM
Lol, that guy has no money

Idk, he gets his dry cleaning done at the same place I do.  He must have deep pockets   8-)
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 🏀 on March 07, 2020, 10:30:32 PM
Idk, he gets his dry cleaning done at the same place I do.  He must have deep pockets   8-)

The guy destroys the stations in the BMO Club before Bucks games like he’s never seen anything but Spam before.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: The Lens on March 07, 2020, 10:33:54 PM
Idk, he gets his dry cleaning done at the same place I do.  He must have deep pockets   8-)
He makes a fine wage.  But he’s a UWM donor. 

Hupy & Habush have 10x the number of offices he does.  And they’ve seen the inside of a courtroom.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 10:36:07 PM
The guy destroys the stations in the BMO Club before Bucks games like he’s never seen anything but Spam before.

Gruber and Buzz aren’t the only ones with $hitt!ing problems.  I’ll leave it at that  :-X
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: keefe on March 07, 2020, 10:38:10 PM
Gruber and Buzz aren’t the only ones with $hitt!ing problems.  I’ll leave it at that  :-X

Wojo squirts at Angels 36?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 08, 2020, 05:48:17 AM
The guy destroys the stations in the BMO Club before Bucks games like he’s never seen anything but Spam before.
One call.......that's not all
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: bilsu on March 08, 2020, 08:49:27 PM
I am guessing that most of the posters here that are calling for Wojo's head have donated very little money to MU. Partially due to the fact that they are current students or recent graduates.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 08, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
I am guessing that most of the posters here that are calling for Wojo's head have donated very little money to MU. Partially due to the fact that they are current students or recent graduates.

I know that your assumption is factually incorrect on both counts when it comes to a number of posters here.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 09, 2020, 04:08:18 PM
I am guessing that most of the posters here that are calling for Wojo's head have donated very little money to MU. Partially due to the fact that they are current students or recent graduates.

You are failing to acknowledge the Meat Summit Underboard.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: NickelDimer on March 09, 2020, 04:09:10 PM
I am guessing that most of the posters here that are calling for Wojo's head have donated very little money to MU. Partially due to the fact that they are current students or recent graduates.
And the basis for that would be...?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: bilsu on March 09, 2020, 04:18:47 PM
And the basis for that would be...?
I just think it is the young guys that are most upset.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: jesmu84 on March 09, 2020, 05:02:14 PM
I just think it is the young guys that are most upset.

I think it's 2 particular groups: those whose formative MU bball lives were under Al or under Buzz
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: joparks on March 09, 2020, 05:47:10 PM
My formative years were under Dukiet and O'Neill.  The 4 years there were pretty lean with the exception of Oneill's NIT bid in '90 and they were never ranked.  The team was decent after I left - maybe it's on me - going on a run the next 6 years with NCAA, NCAA, NIT, NCAA, NCAA, and NIT bids.  Then Deane cratered because he couldn't recruit (among other things) and Crean came in.  In his 3rd year, he took them to the NCAA, then to the final 4, then 2 NITs before coming to the Big East and continuing with Buzz for a total of 8 straight NCAAs.  I'll admit that this team is better now than the teams MU put on the floor when I went to school there but that's not saying much.  Dukiet was about as bad as you can get.  I also know that we aren't in the Big East if the team continued to flounder like it did when I was there.  If they make the NCAAs this year, that's 3 in 4 years and I probably would have loved that when I was at MU.  But once you have a taste, you always want more.  The expectations have changed and they should.  You should always be looking for more.  Would never tell the fans or the students today to settle for what we have now because it's better than what I had.  We all know it could be better.  Sure, it could be worse but the fact that it could be better is what drives all of us or we wouldn't be on this board talking about it.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: warriorfred on March 09, 2020, 06:42:47 PM
My formative years were under Dukiet and O'Neill.  The 4 years there were pretty lean with the exception of Oneill's NIT bid in '90 and they were never ranked.  The team was decent after I left - maybe it's on me - going on a run the next 6 years with NCAA, NCAA, NIT, NCAA, NCAA, and NIT bids.  Then Deane cratered because he couldn't recruit (among other things) and Crean came in.  In his 3rd year, he took them to the NCAA, then to the final 4, then 2 NITs before coming to the Big East and continuing with Buzz for a total of 8 straight NCAAs.  I'll admit that this team is better now than the teams MU put on the floor when I went to school there but that's not saying much.  Dukiet was about as bad as you can get.  I also know that we aren't in the Big East if the team continued to flounder like it did when I was there.  If they make the NCAAs this year, that's 3 in 4 years and I probably would have loved that when I was at MU.  But once you have a taste, you always want more.  The expectations have changed and they should.  You should always be looking for more.  Would never tell the fans or the students today to settle for what we have now because it's better than what I had.  We all know it could be better.  Sure, it could be worse but the fact that it could be better is what drives all of us or we wouldn't be on this board talking about it.

This matches my experience.  In full and fair disclosure, next to Al, KO is the best thing that ever happened to Marquette Basketball.

Imagine walking into the Bradley Center and hoping the game against the Evansville Purple Aces (the freakin' Purple Aces) would be close - single digit loss.  I laugh at those who think Wojo had it tough when he walked in the door.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: NickelDimer on March 09, 2020, 06:57:25 PM
My formative years were under Dukiet and O'Neill.  The 4 years there were pretty lean with the exception of Oneill's NIT bid in '90 and they were never ranked.  The team was decent after I left - maybe it's on me - going on a run the next 6 years with NCAA, NCAA, NIT, NCAA, NCAA, and NIT bids.  Then Deane cratered because he couldn't recruit (among other things) and Crean came in.  In his 3rd year, he took them to the NCAA, then to the final 4, then 2 NITs before coming to the Big East and continuing with Buzz for a total of 8 straight NCAAs.  I'll admit that this team is better now than the teams MU put on the floor when I went to school there but that's not saying much.  Dukiet was about as bad as you can get.  I also know that we aren't in the Big East if the team continued to flounder like it did when I was there.  If they make the NCAAs this year, that's 3 in 4 years and I probably would have loved that when I was at MU.  But once you have a taste, you always want more.  The expectations have changed and they should.  You should always be looking for more.  Would never tell the fans or the students today to settle for what we have now because it's better than what I had.  We all know it could be better.  Sure, it could be worse but the fact that it could be better is what drives all of us or we wouldn't be on this board talking about it.
Very well said
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 09, 2020, 10:56:32 PM
My formative years were under Dukiet and O'Neill.  The 4 years there were pretty lean with the exception of Oneill's NIT bid in '90 and they were never ranked.  The team was decent after I left - maybe it's on me - going on a run the next 6 years with NCAA, NCAA, NIT, NCAA, NCAA, and NIT bids.  Then Deane cratered because he couldn't recruit (among other things) and Crean came in.  In his 3rd year, he took them to the NCAA, then to the final 4, then 2 NITs before coming to the Big East and continuing with Buzz for a total of 8 straight NCAAs.  I'll admit that this team is better now than the teams MU put on the floor when I went to school there but that's not saying much.  Dukiet was about as bad as you can get.  I also know that we aren't in the Big East if the team continued to flounder like it did when I was there.  If they make the NCAAs this year, that's 3 in 4 years and I probably would have loved that when I was at MU.  But once you have a taste, you always want more.  The expectations have changed and they should.  You should always be looking for more.  Would never tell the fans or the students today to settle for what we have now because it's better than what I had.  We all know it could be better.  Sure, it could be worse but the fact that it could be better is what drives all of us or we wouldn't be on this board talking about it.

I lived through those dark times, too.  Getting hyped up for the Duquesne game was always the highlight of the season.

KO should have a statue on campus.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 10, 2020, 12:00:40 AM
You are failing to acknowledge the Meat Summit Underboard.

Actually, many of them claim to have given "large amounts" in the past, but not recently because they won't donate to a school that accepts mediocrity!
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: CleanishProgram on March 10, 2020, 12:11:18 AM
Actually, many of them claim to have given "large amounts" in the past, but not recently because they won't donate to a school that accepts mediocrity!

One more insult and I’m banning you boomer.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: keefe on March 10, 2020, 03:04:08 AM
Actually, many of them claim to have given "large amounts" in the past, but not recently because they won't donate to a school that accepts mediocrity!

It's funny but if you make enough you need the tax breaks
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: dgies9156 on March 10, 2020, 08:01:13 AM
An Al McGuire era Warrior here. I know how good “good” can be. Even when the team was out early, it was fun to watch and home games at times could be a circus. The students showed up and, for the most part, took ownership in the program.

We saw flashes of this when Buzz, KO and Coach Crean were here. I think what makes a lot of us so emotional about where we are now is we know what a Natty, or a deep run in the NCAA, means for the university. We know Markus in many ways exemplifies what Marquette is about and we want to see something tangible to go along with his accomplishments.

The emotion in Scoop is a good thing — it shows our constituencies care.

As a final thought, I’ve been a consistent contributor to Marquette since I was graduated. Yes, I want the basketball team to be good — it’s a fun winter diversion — but the contributions I make are not dependent on the basketball team. What Marquette does education-wise is really important and they have made a difference in thousands and thousands of lives.

Wojo or no Wojo, that’s not going to change!
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 10, 2020, 08:20:22 AM
Damn straight, dude, hey?
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 10, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
An Al McGuire era Warrior here. I know how good “good” can be. Even when the team was out early, it was fun to watch and home games at times could be a circus. The students showed up and, for the most part, took ownership in the program.

We saw flashes of this when Buzz, KO and Coach Crean were here. I think what makes a lot of us so emotional about where we are now is we know what a Natty, or a deep run in the NCAA, means for the university. We know Markus in many ways exemplifies what Marquette is about and we want to see something tangible to go along with his accomplishments.

The emotion in Scoop is a good thing — it shows our constituencies care.

As a final thought, I’ve been a consistent contributor to Marquette since I was graduated. Yes, I want the basketball team to be good — it’s a fun winter diversion — but the contributions I make are not dependent on the basketball team. What Marquette does education-wise is really important and they have made a difference in thousands and thousands of lives.

Wojo or no Wojo, that’s not going to change!

Love your post! Marquette will always be close to my heart.

As a fellow Al Era guy, yeah...I know the feeling. Too bad lately that we need to rely on the memories and have so little in the present to be happy about with the way everything has turned out.

Great job (and gutsy) at focusing what is truly important on a forum dedicated to basketball.   
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: WarriorDad on March 10, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
Love your post! Marquette will always be close to my heart.

As a fellow Al Era guy, yeah...I know the feeling. Too bad lately that we need to rely on the memories and have so little in the present to be happy about with the way everything has turned out.

Great job (and gutsy) at focusing what is truly important on a forum dedicated to basketball.

We have plenty to be happy about.  Reprioritize.
Title: Re: Big donors
Post by: 79Warrior on March 10, 2020, 08:01:28 PM
We have plenty to be happy about.  Reprioritize.

Says who?? Who are you to tell him anything?