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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: kmwtrucks on September 12, 2012, 10:29:10 AM
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I think BUzz had a In home with him.
UCLA is out and U of ILL had a in home.
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2321:kendrick-nunn-has-strong-in-home-with-illini&catid=34:recruiting
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2320:ucla-no-longer-in-kendrick-nunn-hunt&catid=34:recruiting
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I assume we are still among the favorites.
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Why would a top recruit want to be the face of a program and help bring it back to National prominence? He could do that at Bradley? Wouldn't one rather be a part of a great team and be in the hunt for a national Championship each year before turning pro, while being close to home?
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Plus bein' a part of a great conference like the Big East.
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Why would a top recruit want to be the face of a program and help bring it back to National prominence? He could do that at Bradley? Wouldn't one rather be a part of a great team and be in the hunt for a national Championship each year before turning pro, while being close to home?
Starting and being a star from day one can be very appealing.
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I feel that directly or indirectly, Nunn will commit this weekend. Either he verbals to UI, or of he leaves without committing, he's ours.
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When does Nunn plan to announce his decision?
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Susposedly after all of his visits. However, he has been to MU enough, so he does not have to visit us again. I say there is a 50% chance he commits to someone else before he visits MU. MU is the leader, if he shows up at Marquette Madness.
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Why would a top recruit want to be the face of a program and help bring it back to National prominence? He could do that at Bradley? Wouldn't one rather be a part of a great team and be in the hunt for a national Championship each year before turning pro, while being close to home?
As a soph, Patrick O'Bryant led Bradley to the Sweet 16 and became a lottery pick (i.e. made millions) because of it.
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Why would a top recruit want to be the face of a program and help bring it back to National prominence? He could do that at Bradley? Wouldn't one rather be a part of a great team and be in the hunt for a national Championship each year before turning pro, while being close to home?
Are you Kendrick's Dad? I think he said something very similar a short while back. It's a done deal--he's coming here. I'll give him til Oct. 13th.
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Are you Kendrick's Dad? I think he said something very similar a short while back. It's a done deal--he's coming here. I'll give him til Oct. 13th.
Perhaps. Who is his mom?
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As a soph, Patrick O'Bryant led Bradley to the Sweet 16 and became a lottery pick (i.e. made millions) because of it.
But he didn't contend for a National Championship and would have made the same money if he played elsewhere.
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But he didn't contend for a National Championship and would have made the same money if he played elsewhere.
If Bradley had gotten knocked out in the 1st Round, he wouldn't have left early and wouldn't have been a lottery pick.
My point was that being a big fish in a small pond can have its advantages.
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FWIW this is what Illini fans are saying...
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=18279&page=104
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FWIW this is what Illini fans are saying...
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=18279&page=104
Wonder if his source is "Aki Collins" as well.
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MU had an in home visit on Monday...went well. They had a mix tape with KN and DJO..showing how they are similar players and how KN would fit in to MU.
Melvin (Dad) is a solid MU lean...if he comes to MM unsigned he will be at MU IMHO.
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FWIW this is what Illini fans are saying...
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=18279&page=104
Fairly reasonable responses. Interesting that they label Buzz as "pushy." Almost makes you wonder if MU has other options that are hotter right now.
Too bad that they couldn't have hung onto Bruce Weber for a year longer because I think we would have been in better shape going up against him.
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Fairly reasonable responses. Interesting that they label Buzz as "pushy." Almost makes you wonder if MU has other options that are hotter right now.
Too bad that they couldn't have hung onto Bruce Weber for a year longer because I think we would have been in better shape going up against him.
MU is—and has always been—Nunn's safety school. That's why he keeps retreating as Buzz advances. Nunn will not be coming to MU—and was never interested in the first place. MU was a nice fall back if all other options dried up. Nunn now has Illinois and OSU. Two schools in a stable, major conference.
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MU is—and has always been—Nunn's safety school. That's why he keeps retreating as Buzz advances. Nunn will not be coming to MU—and was never interested in the first place. MU was a nice fall back if all other options dried up. Nunn now has Illinois and OSU. Two schools in a stable, major conference.
Here's the link to the ChicagoHoops story on the MU in home visit which was the day after the Illinois in home visit. It doesn't exactly backup your opinion. Frankly, I think that your statement that MU is Nunn's safety school is completely unsubstantiated. It's always seemed likely to me that Nunn's favorite was MU, but he disciplined himself to not commit until he had checked out all his options to avoid another potential decommit like he did with Texas A&M.
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting)
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I think those who write off MU as Nunn's "safety school" do so in order to not get their hopes up. There is not much evidence that this is the case.
That being said, if I were a betting man, I would say "Illinois."
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MU had an in home visit on Monday...went well. They had a mix tape with KN and DJO..showing how they are similar players and how KN would fit in to MU.
Melvin (Dad) is a solid MU lean...if he comes to MM unsigned he will be at MU IMHO.
When Big Daddy speaks, we should listen! ;D I am hopeful that your inside track is spot on.
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I think those who write off MU as Nunn's "safety school" do so in order to not get their hopes up. There is not much evidence that this is the case.
That being said, if I were a betting man, I would say "Illinois."
Groce has certainly taken them from dead in the water to a viable destination.
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Here's the link to the ChicagoHoops story on the MU in home visit which was the day after the Illinois in home visit. It doesn't exactly backup your opinion. Frankly, I think that your statement that MU is Nunn's safety school is completely unsubstantiated. It's always seemed likely to me that Nunn's favorite was MU, but he disciplined himself to not commit until he had checked out all his options to avoid another potential decommit like he did with Texas A&M.
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting)
+1--I would be very surprised if he's not wearing B and G.
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When Big Daddy speaks, we should listen! ;D I am hopeful that your inside track is spot on.
Except when he makes assessments of Jimmy Butler's abilities.
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I feel that directly or indirectly, Nunn will commit this weekend. Either he verbals to UI, or of he leaves without committing, he's ours.
I concur. If Nunn leaves Illinois without committing, then I believe his plan was to 'show respect' to the in-state state school. You can assume that Nunn and Steve Taylor are talking. I have every reason to believe that Steve is very happy at MU so far. That can't be a bad thing.
I put our chances at 70%.
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Memphis is out also which puts Marquette against U of I and tOSU
I would say it is really 50/50 between Marquette and U of I seeing Ohio State is delaying their in home due to the strike
Also, the visits could be pushed up further though he maybe still end up at Madness regardless
http://www.csnchicago.com/preps/news/Parker-Nunn-update-recruitments?blockID=771993&feedID=629
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Except when he makes assessments of Jimmy Butler's abilities.
Or what clothes are packed, and also his percentages....
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Why would a top recruit want to be the face of a program and help bring it back to National prominence? He could do that at Bradley? Wouldn't one rather be a part of a great team and be in the hunt for a national Championship each year before turning pro, while being close to home?
Are you making a case for Marquette or Ohio State ... or both?
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90 miles vs 350 miles. It's a done deal.
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90 miles vs 350 miles. It's a done deal.
An important factor I believe. Mr. Nunn can ride with me up to the games.
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Here's the link to the ChicagoHoops story on the MU in home visit which was the day after the Illinois in home visit. It doesn't exactly backup your opinion. Frankly, I think that your statement that MU is Nunn's safety school is completely unsubstantiated. It's always seemed likely to me that Nunn's favorite was MU, but he disciplined himself to not commit until he had checked out all his options to avoid another potential decommit like he did with Texas A&M.
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2322:nunn-marquette-have-very-good-in-home&catid=34:recruiting)
Nunn's father gave us a nice, polite review of MU's in-home visit. So what? That tells me it wasn't a complete disaster—which I never expected it to be. Nunn is not coming to MU. He wants a big-time school in a big-time conference. He wanted Kentucky, UCLA, or UNC (but they weren't interested enough to seriously pursue him. UCLA came the closest, but backed off). Now he has Illinois and OSU.
I reserve the right to say I told you so when Nunn picks Illinois and says OSU was a close second.
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An important factor I believe. Mr. Nunn can ride with me up to the games.
Given recent events I'd recommend rethinking the compliance of that ride. (half-teal)
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Given recent events I'd recommend rethinking the compliance of that ride. (half-teal)
Make him pay for the gas.
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Nunn's father gave us a nice, polite review of MU's in-home visit. So what? That tells me it wasn't a complete disaster—which I never expected it to be. Nunn is not coming to MU. He wants a big-time school in a big-time conference. He wanted Kentucky, UCLA, or UNC (but they weren't interested enough to seriously pursue him. UCLA came the closest, but backed off). Now he has Illinois and OSU.
I reserve the right to say I told you so when Nunn picks Illinois and says OSU was a close second.
Ok groin pull--I will hold you to that. I reserve the same right when I hear KN say "the relationship with Buzz, their style of play, the proximity to my hometown, my buddy Steve Taylor is there and already loves what's going on.....I liked Illinois, but I wanted to be on a team that isn't on the rebound, but rather has natl title hopes. My dream has always been to play in the league and with what Buzz has done with Wes, Zar, Jimmy, Jae that's why I decided to take my talents to Wisconsin Ave."
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Unfortunately I'm no longer feeling good about MUs chances with Nunn. I think signs point to an Illinois verbal unless things change quickly. I'm hoping he makes it to madness but don't expect it. Hope I'm wrong!
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Nunn's father gave us a nice, polite review of MU's in-home visit. So what? That tells me it wasn't a complete disaster—which I never expected it to be. Nunn is not coming to MU. He wants a big-time school in a big-time conference. He wanted Kentucky, UCLA, or UNC (but they weren't interested enough to seriously pursue him. UCLA came the closest, but backed off). Now he has Illinois and OSU.
I reserve the right to say I told you so when Nunn picks Illinois and says OSU was a close second.
Yea cause Illinois is a big time school ::)
The last time they were any good was 2005
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Unfortunately I'm no longer feeling good about MUs chances with Nunn. I think signs point to an Illinois verbal unless things change quickly. I'm hoping he makes it to madness but don't expect it. Hope I'm wrong!
what changed your mind? the guy on the Illini board?
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Make him pay for the gas.
There's a winner.
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Unfortunately I'm no longer feeling good about MUs chances with Nunn. I think signs point to an Illinois verbal unless things change quickly. I'm hoping he makes it to madness but don't expect it. Hope I'm wrong!
You are wrong. Illinois? Trust me Mr. Nunn we expect to be competitive in the near future. Buzz is selling 3 burger boys with the addition of your son. Get back on board Shaq.
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what changed your mind? the guy on the Illini board?
No, what I'm hearing from others from MU. They haven't given up on him, but sounds like his communication with us is changing. His twitter feed hints towards this as well.
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I'd say this recruitment is a classic case of just how much of a mindf*ck recruiting can be for coaches. It's been quite the dance. Think of all of the time, energy, and effort put into recruiting these kids, yet the kid can only choose 1 school - which makes your chances of being the loser much greater. The mind of a 16 and 17 year old is quite fickle. I'm sure for K Nunn, its also a hard process - lots of pros and cons to evaluate.
At the end of the day, Buzz and MU have a lot of selling points - if Kendrick chooses elsewhere - I'd be very disappointed. MU's roster, Buzz's coaching results, and track record for getting guys drafted - all point toward MU being a FAR better option than the start up situation with Groce in Illinois. MU wins on the geography battle with OSU.
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E.C. Matthews is coming in this weekend, basically another clone of Nunn. 6'4 lefty guard. Maybe not as explosive, but a little taller.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/20163161/ec-matthews-looking-to-trim-list-marcus-lee-down-to-three
Have to think they aren't going to wait for Nunn anymore if another comparable guard wants to commit.
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No, what I'm hearing from others from MU. They haven't given up on him, but sounds like his communication with us is changing. His twitter feed hints towards this as well.
Buzz cooled on him
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E.C. Matthews is coming in this weekend, basically another clone of Nunn. 6'4 lefty guard. Maybe not as explosive, but a little taller.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/20163161/ec-matthews-looking-to-trim-list-marcus-lee-down-to-three
Have to think they aren't going to wait for Nunn anymore if another comparable guard wants to commit.
I am in favor of making Nunns' decision easier by giving his scholarship to Matthews.
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E.C. Matthews is coming in this weekend, basically another clone of Nunn. 6'4 lefty guard. Maybe not as explosive, but a little taller.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/20163161/ec-matthews-looking-to-trim-list-marcus-lee-down-to-three
Have to think they aren't going to wait for Nunn anymore if another comparable guard wants to commit.
Numerous recruits in the last week or so have been providing verbal commitments. It is getting close to opening of both the high school and college seasons and alot of recruits want to make their decisions prior to their own seasons starting.
Buzz probably waiting on Nunn as the #1 SG target, but the other recruits, like target #2, target #3 may not want to wait that long. Competitive atmosphere for Buzz, who has to confirm with those targets at 2 and 3, etc. that MU is waiting for a decision on the kid in front of you. One has to wonder if a cut-off date has been set for Nunn, like a take it or leave it because MU has to move on.
Will be interesting in next few weeks and Midnight Madness.
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Numerous recruits in the last week or so have been providing verbal commitments. It is getting close to opening of both the high school and college seasons and alot of recruits want to make their decisions prior to their own seasons starting.
Buzz probably waiting on Nunn as the #1 SG target, but the other recruits, like target #2, target #3 may not want to wait that long. Competitive atmosphere for Buzz, who has to confirm with those targets at 2 and 3, etc. that MU is waiting for a decision on the kid in front of you. One has to wonder if a cut-off date has been set for Nunn, like a take it or leave it because MU has to move on.
Will be interesting in next few weeks and Midnight Madness.
One of the toughest things in recruiting is knowing when to cut your losses. A week ago MU was one of 5 teams in the Nunn race. Now they are one of three, which would seem to indicate progress. However, at one point they were considered the favorite to land Nunn. Now it might be Illinois? Then you have to factor on the potential of signing Washington or Embiid. Also are you going add one or two more? Two scholarships allow you to take option 2 or 3 and remain in the race for Embiid or Washington. One scholarship means you are done, if you take option 2 or 3 and therefore you might want to hold out for Nunn or a frontcourt player.
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I doubt if EC Matthews is going to commit on a unofficial visit this weekend, but if he does, you definitely take that commitment.
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I doubt if EC Matthews is going to commit on a unofficial visit this weekend, but if he does, you definitely take that commitment.
He commits if the visit goes so good that he sees MU as his clear choice.
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I don't think Matthews will commit yet, but MU can certainly use him to put the pressure on Nunn. But if Matthews is ready to commit before Madness, I think you take it. While I think we have a solid shot with Nunn if he gets here, you don't pass on a top-100 guy unless you're waiting on a sure-fire All-American, which unfortunately KN is not.
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He commits if the visit goes so good that he sees MU as his clear choice.
Yeah, but he's got choices and some schools that have been after him longer than we have.
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Other schools may not be in as solid of a conference as MU.
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Yeah, but he's got choices and some schools that have been after him longer than we have.
We have been on Nunn a long time. That becomes a negative after awhile as there is a reason why the recruit has not committed. I rather be one of the newer schools on Matthews as he could perceive us as a step up from his previous choices.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Buzz is moving on from this one.
He wants guys that want to be here. This recruitment shares some similarities with Jamil's. MU was there all along, and eventually Buzz had enough. When they couldn't pull the trigger, they gave the scholly to Roseboro *shudder*.
If Matthews is ready to go, they'll take the verbal.
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1. Nunn
2. Kameron Williams
3. E C Matthews
Agree that Nunn doesn't really want to be here. It's a perfect fit for him. Williams has an impressive An a great scouting report.
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Agree with Bilsu and MU that Buzz may be moving on. Nunn has had plenty of time to commit to MU. It's time for MU to sign a player that wants to play at MU. Sign either Mathews or another player... there are a lot of talented recruits to sign.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Buzz is moving on from this one.
He wants guys that want to be here. This recruitment shares some similarities with Jamil's. MU was there all along, and eventually Buzz had enough. When they couldn't pull the trigger, they gave the scholly to Roseboro *shudder*.
If Matthews is ready to go, they'll take the verbal.
I agree with you re Matthews, but why would you think "he's moving on" from Nunn? Ever since he announced his official visits, two of those schools have dropped out. He just went to his house on Monday for an in-home visit.
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I agree with you re Matthews, but why would you think "he's moving on" from Nunn? Ever since he announced his official visits, two of those schools have dropped out. He just went to his house on Monday for an in-home visit.
"Moving on" may have been a poor choice of words. I just don't think he'll be waiting on Nunn before taking someone else.
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Maybe the "pressure" rumored during the Buzz visit the Illini board was refering to was Buzz saying "I've got some TOP prospects at your position who are ready to commit right now. You were our first and we want you but if you can't tell me now, I'm going to give this other guy the green light".
I think the plan was for Nunn to visit the other 4 and then commit at MM. But if the staff thinks he's less than 95% they may give his spot away rather than losing all prospects at 2G.
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Maybe the "pressure" rumored during the Buzz visit the Illini board was refering to was Buzz saying "I've got some TOP prospects at your position who are ready to commit right now. You were our first and we want you but if you can't tell me now, I'm going to give this other guy the green light".
I think the plan was for Nunn to visit the other 4 and then commit at MM. But if the staff thinks he's less than 95% they may give his spot away rather than losing all prospects at 2G.
I think less than 50%. 95% I would hold out for.
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Other schools may not be in as solid of a conference as MU.
Always the merry prankster!
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I think less than 50%. 95% I would hold out for.
The % would be in Buzz's mind anyway. The point I'm making is that Buzz probably put the pressure on knowing he had a decision to make that couldn't wait till MM. Did Buzz get what he wanted? No one outside the program knows for sure. The only evidence I would point to is that A) MU hasn't recieved a commitment from another 2 guard since B) BigDaddy who has had reliable inside info in the past says he is 70% sure Nunn will commit to MU.
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Moving On??
What are we Badger Fans who when they dont get a recruit say Bo cooled on them?
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The DePaul Blue Demons are aggressively pursuing big man options in the class of 2013. They checked in on one of their targets this week in La Lumiere (IN) power forward Torren Jones. The athletic four-man transferred to La Lumiere for his senior season from Arizona .
Jones discussed what he likes most about DePaul.
“The location and the coaching staff.”
He says he has a tight relationship with assistant coach Billy Garrett. The Blue Demons will get an official visit out of Jones as he says he has two lined up.
“22nd and 29th this month with Washington State and DePaul.”
Jones has narrowed his list of schools to five.
“Cal, Washington State, DePaul, Marquette, and Mizzou no order.”
What will be important in a program?
“Location, style of play, and education.”
Jones is an athletic forward that can attack off the bounce. He has quick and aggressive moves around the hoop and is a good offensive rebounder. The senior is a high flyer around the hoop and makes highlight reel plays on a consistent basis.
DePaul is very much in the mix for the services of Jones who ranks as one of the top 100 prospects in the nation.
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No E.C. Matthews this weekend per Evan Daniels.. Could read a lot into that, but I wouldn't know where to start.
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Good to see all the Illini boosters adhering to the "don't tweet" rule today. Kendrick seems to be enjoying.
www.twitter.com/KNunnSG
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Yeah he sure enjoys retweeting all those Illinois fans. Probably reading too much into it, but I don't like that he really seems to be enjoying/agreeing with all the U of I fans that he will have a great time and be the future face of the program. I usually dont read too much into prospects tweets but this recruitment just feels a little different. If I had to rank the current schools right now I think I would go
1. Illinois
2. Marquette
3. Ohio State
Really hope I am wrong on this as Nunn is probably the recruit I have wanted us to get the most since Iman Shumpert days maybe. Think he could be that big of a contributor to the program and right away. He would fit Buzz's whole style to a tee imo. Really hope we pull out all the stops and atleast get him to Midnight Madness.
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Speaking of Shumpert, if someone can refresh my memory, wasn't that the recruit that Crean lost and was rumored to be partially the reason he left for IU knowing he could never recruit at the top level here at MU. Could be a different situation with Nunn, but you would have to think Buzz would be bummed if he lost this recruiting battle and hopefully he doesn't feel the same way as Crean after this one's over.
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Speaking of Shumpert, if someone can refresh my memory, wasn't that the recruit that Crean lost and was rumored to be partially the reason he left for IU knowing he could never recruit at the top level here at MU. Could be a different situation with Nunn, but you would have to think Buzz would be bummed if he lost this recruiting battle and hopefully he doesn't feel the same way as Crean after this one's over.
Burton is ranked higher than Nunn at least in Scout. (52 v. 54)
Schumpert was ranked #18.
They really aren't analogous.
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Speaking of Shumpert, if someone can refresh my memory, wasn't that the recruit that Crean lost and was rumored to be partially the reason he left for IU knowing he could never recruit at the top level here at MU. Could be a different situation with Nunn, but you would have to think Buzz would be bummed if he lost this recruiting battle and hopefully he doesn't feel the same way as Crean after this one's over.
Crean was never staying at MU from the moment he was offered the job. Strictly a stepping stone gig. Problem was most people bought the crap he was sellin'. Always was and still is phony as a 3 dollar bill.
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Hello Marquette Fans from Illinois.
I come in peace, and have much respect for your program (I LOVED DJO and Crowder last year, some of my favorite players btw.)
If you look at IllinoisLoyalty.com, you can see we obviously think we have Nunn locked up. This comes from 2 of our most credible posters with inside knowledge. Also, if you check out Kendrick's twitter, you can see one of his last tweets was to Xavier Rathan-Mayes, asking for XRM's phone number. We are currently after XRM (we were announced as in his top 3 tonight) and Nunn. (I think, and most Illinois fans think) that this is a sign of Nunn's commitment and him helping recruit XRM to Illinois, to create a Top-5 freshman class.
Thought I would share this with you all and good luck this season!
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I really doubt nunn would recruit a player ranked higher than him that plays the same position. If anything, he is seeing where XRM goes so he won't go there.
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One of nunns biggest things was that he wanted playing time.
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Greetings, Lenny. Hope you're wrong, suspect you're right. Nunn would be a really good get for Groce. The other guy would be even better.
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Coach Groce went 10 deep while at Ohio and has said multiple times he will use almost his whole team during games. For XRM, it comes down to Florida St, ILL, and UConn (not likely with Calhoun gone), and he's announcing sometime in October (13th?). Take the tweet as you will, but I know Groce has presented the idea to XRM (and Nunn too probably) about coming here and creating a mini "Fab 5".
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Yeah he sure enjoys retweeting all those Illinois fans. Probably reading too much into it...
It's soooooo hard to tell with twitter-length posts, but all I see there is a guy enjoying his time in the spotlight. If I was getting shout outs like that, I'd be retweeting them left and right too.
If we start seeing tweets written by him praising the school / coach / team, I worry. Until then, I think it's just a kid enjoying his fame. More power to him!
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Isn't there a rule about fans contacting recruits regarding recruitment? Wonder if the proper authorities have been made aware of this, if it indeed is an infraction.
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Isn't there a rule about fans contacting recruits regarding recruitment? Wonder if the proper authorities have been made aware of this, if it indeed is an infraction.
Maybe there is a "future face of the program" exception.
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This one is over, just look at twitter, i'm sure he's already given a verbal
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MU is—and has always been—Nunn's safety school. That's why he keeps retreating as Buzz advances. Nunn will not be coming to MU—and was never interested in the first place. MU was a nice fall back if all other options dried up. Nunn now has Illinois and OSU. Two schools in a stable, major conference.
You keep on ranting incorrectly about conference instability. Did I need to remind you that we are not a football team but rather a basketball team.
It's now time you get a grip and realize stability is here now and the schools left over in the BE ... Gtown, MU, Nova, St' Johns Providence, Memphis, Seton Hall etc. could send more teams the Tourney than the B10.
ND leaving for the ACC is not going to affect Nunn's recruitment.
What will affect Nunn's recruitment is the dysfunctional nature of Illinois, how horrible they have been the last five years and Groce was something like their fifth choice as a head coach, and got the job because Ohio pulled off one upset in the Tourney.
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It's soooooo hard to tell with twitter-length posts, but all I see there is a guy enjoying his time in the spotlight. If I was getting shout outs like that, I'd be retweeting them left and right too.
If we start seeing tweets written by him praising the school / coach / team, I worry. Until then, I think it's just a kid enjoying his fame. More power to him!
I remember the way Al and Earl Tatum tweeted and re-tweeted.
Ah, memories.
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Man his twitter is flooded with Illini fans sucking up to him. And he's retweeting every single one. Could be a bad sign that he is really liking his visit to Illinois, or that he is just showing respect to his followers with retweets.
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That's an awful lot of love for a 17 year old to turn down. Be it numbers or just the culture here, I don't see our student body showing that kind of support for a recruit visiting, even if it were a top 10 recruit.
The worse thing that could happen is that his dad makes him follow through on his visits when his mind is already made up. That would put us at a huge disadvantage (ala the Gabe York decision) moving forward with other recruits.
Marquette isn't for everybody and that's ok, just hope he let's the staff know to move on if so.
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Kendrick Nunn @KNunnSG
@JohnGroce I Need That ScholarShip..My State. My School #KendricksKingdom
Kendrick just posted this via Twitter.
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Kendrick just posted this via Twitter.
Next please. as evidenced by his tweets... he loves the bright lights and attention. Hard to fault a 17 year old for that. Hope there's no more to the ec Williams no show than a scheduling conflict.
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Good luck this season Marquette fans! I'm out!
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I heard Nunn was turned off by Al's Run. Didn't want to be forced to participate next year.
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It has been very clear throughout the Nunn recruitment that he wanted to be able to play from Day 1 at the school. At Illinois, that will certainly be a lot easier, than it would at Marquette - where Nunn would likely* be behind Mayo and Vander. On the other side of the coin, if Nunn really wants to be a part of a winner from Day 1 that will have Elite 8/Final Four potential - MU is a much better choice - as it is if looking at a head coaches track record for developing and sending players to the NBA.
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Nunn is probably a nice player and would complement Mayo, Blue, then Burton and Duane Wilson. He is not a savior of the program and the hype about this kid has really skyrocketed, as his ratings have diminished. If he does commit to MU, I really don't see him jumping in front of Mayo or Blue anyway. I honestly believe Mayo will be a complete stud this year.
Would I and others be glad if he did commit to MU, yes, but he is probably not like a Diamond Stone or Kevin Looney rated recruit who would really enhance the team.
I am with Ners on this one, but if Nunn goes to Illinois, so be it. Stone and Looney are the key recruits for the future.
BTW, Rivals reporting Nunn in fact did commit to Illinois today.
http://illinois.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1409656&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
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Better to know now. He had enough contact with Buzz to know what our program was about. If he didn't want it then it's better off for all of us. Would have been nice if he was in on it, but he found what he was after with PR right away.
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*PT right away
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Next please. as evidenced by his tweets... he loves the bright lights and attention. Hard to fault a 17 year old for that. Hope there's no more to the ec Williams no show than a scheduling conflict.
It's EC Matthews...and the visit was an unofficial and never finalized. I hope we get him in an official soon. Darin Johnson will be visiting this upcoming week.
http://hscalifornia.scout.com/a.z?s=153&p=8&c=1&nid=4594820
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Just curious, what are the rules for students and alumni tweeting a recruit?
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Also curious, Wilson and Burton are ranked ahead of him. I know ESPN isn't always great, but we have some solid talent coming in. Can Burton play the 2?
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Illinois did a great job selling Nunn, gotta give them credit, never heard of students being so involved before. I think some of the turmoil in our staff this offseason had an effect on recruiting, so I sure am glad Buzz got the MKE3 early on. I'm still hoping for one quality big or a big shooting guard.
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Other schools may not be in as solid of a conference as MU.
Makes you wonder a bit. After all, we know coaches are ethical and would never badmouth the changes in the BE.
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http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/story/_/id/8382673/kendrick-nunn-commits-play-illinois-fighting-illini
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Let him go.
He must like underachieving; Illinois's a perfect place for that.
We all had a feeling that he probably wasn't going to pick MU since we were always there, had a scholly to offer, but he didn't bite.
If the girl don't wanna be with you, move on.
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Was disappointed about this then I remembered we already have Milwaukee's Finest..
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Just curious, what are the rules for students and alumni tweeting a recruit?
Technically, all the students and alumni tweeting Nunn is illegal. The problem is action by the NCAA has been inconsistent or absent.
I believe that MU puts out an email or something each year saying to avoid contacting recruits by social media. In this case obviously Illinois doesn't or the people don't listen.
Either way hard to enforce, but for schools that do refrain it provides a small disadvantage.
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As it stands now, Nunn would have been our fifth guard off the bench his freshman year...
Senior Vander Blue
Junior Todd Mayo
Freshman Deonte Burton (ranked higher)
Freshman Duane Wilson (ranked higher)
He might have even been number six if Derrick Wilson develops more.
.... he could start from day one at Illinois.
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As it stands now, Nunn would have been our fifth guard off the bench his freshman year...
Senior Vander Blue
Junior Todd Mayo
Freshman Deonte Burton (ranked higher)
Freshman Duane Wilson (ranked higher)
He might have even been number six if Derrick Wilson develops more.
.... he could start from day one at Illinois.
Since Buzz plays a three guard offense, he certainly could have received playing time. Look, Buzz is obviously looking at guards. He feels we need one. Why do we have to crap on them when they dont choose MU?
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+1, that @themublueman guy on twitter looks like a 9 year old posting this garbage.
Lmao at @KNunnSG right now...have fun in the NIT the next 4 years followed by a brief stint in the Europe league. You could of made the NBA.
I hate fans that make our entire fanbase look weak.
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+1, that @themublueman guy on twitter looks like a 9 year old posting this garbage.
Lmao at @KNunnSG right now...have fun in the NIT the next 4 years followed by a brief stint in the Europe league. You could of made the NBA.
I hate fans that make our entire fanbase look weak.
He's the dumbass who posts on here.
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Also curious, Wilson and Burton are ranked ahead of him. I know ESPN isn't always great, but we have some solid talent coming in. Can Burton play the 2?
Nunn is excellent, but I'd put Burton very near him (and Burton is under-recognized by the 'public scouting services', IMO). I'd call Deonte a mean switchable, but would see him at a '3' more often than anything, but 2 and 4 are doable as well.
Would have loved Nunn, but now I'd like to either add a wing type that can shoot like a traditional or Kyle Washington, who is also under-appreciated by the ratings and could excel at Marquette.
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Congrats to U of I. Would have been a nice way to round out the class, but if we can get a top 150 PF or C I will be perfectly happy to have missed here.
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What am I going to do with this tattoo now? Any ideas on how to cover up a big "Kendrick Wade Nunn"?
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Who were the last MU recruits from Meanstreets? Jerel and Mo, and Buckley recruited both--for MU and Ball State.
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Since Buzz plays a three guard offense, he certainly could have received playing time. Look, Buzz is obviously looking at guards. He feels we need one. Why do we have to crap on them when they dont choose MU?
I'm not saying he would not have played or I did not want him. He would have been a great signing.
What I am saying is Nunn would have been another in a long-line of successful guards at MU, but first he would have to wait his turn, At UI they are hoping he will be a program changer.
It shows the relative difference between the programs.
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Big Deal....Now everybody knows what we know: "Marquette is second to Nunn"
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Big Deal....Now everybody knows what we know: "Marquette is second to Nunn"
Great post! You've inspired me - I'm going out right now and getting a tattoo!.
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From all accounts Nunn is a very good player, and I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform - however, I got the impression over the last year that he is a pretty big prima donna/attention whore - and I'm not sure that fits well with the types of guys Buzz likes to coach....or can coach to the best of his/their ability.
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I think making disrespectful comments about recruits & the teams they chose over MU is a great idea. Good work, guys.
Nunn is an excellent basketball player. Illinois got a good one. That's it.
I wish we could keep the disrespectful comments and cheap shots aimed where they belong - our fellow Scoopers! (and I4, CBB, LW, FP, etc.)
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Illinois recruiting peep Chip Sylvie:
"I really like the Illini pickup of Nunn. I think he's definitely a top 50 type even if his game has been sliding.I think he's a good pickup. On the flip side, there would be a number of Illinois guys (I can think of 3) who think Nunn has been dreadful as of late."
Time to move on gentleman.
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From all accounts Nunn is a very good player, and I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform - however, I got the impression over the last year that he is a pretty big prima donna/attention whore - and I'm not sure that fits well with the types of guys Buzz likes to coach....or can coach to the best of his/their ability.
Yeah, he wouldn't fit in well. That is why Buzz recruited him so hard after he decommitted from A&M.
Seriously people...
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It was a long recruitment, hope no buyers remorse, he got a lot of sunshine cast on him cause of who he played with. Now he has to work hard. 6'1 165 in the big. Good Luck and lets move on.
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From all accounts Nunn is a very good player, and I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform - however, I got the impression over the last year that he is a pretty big prima donna/attention whore - and I'm not sure that fits well with the types of guys Buzz likes to coach....or can coach to the best of his/their ability.
Sure. Buzz probably cooled on him.
I suspect you probably wouldn't be referring to the kid as a "whore" had he chosen MU. Get a grip and stop acting like a Badger fan.
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I'm not saying he would not have played or I did not want him. He would have been a great signing.
What I am saying is Nunn would have been another in a long-line of successful guards at MU, but first he would have to wait his turn, At UI they are hoping he will be a program changer.
It shows the relative difference between the programs.
Couldnt agree more
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I See KAMERON WILIAMS is AVAILABLE ------- Would rather have him. Very impressive video.
6-2 or 3 170.
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I See KAMERON WILIAMS is AVAILABLE ------- Would rather have him. Very impressive video.
6-2 or 3 170.
Where is this video you speak of?
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Sure. Buzz probably cooled on him.
I suspect you probably wouldn't be referring to the kid as a "whore" had he chosen MU. Get a grip and stop acting like a Badger fan.
What part of "I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform" did you not get?? It is entirely possible to want a talented player that is or may have prima donna tendencies. Doesn't mean you don't recruit him, desire him, or want him on your team. Yet at the end of the day, it might be best if you don't get the player.
Get a grip and try* to make an effort to understand the point - and stop using teal for obviously sarcastic statements - it really is lame.
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As it stands now, Nunn would have been our fifth guard off the bench his freshman year...
Senior Vander Blue
Junior Todd Mayo
Freshman Deonte Burton (ranked higher)
Freshman Duane Wilson (ranked higher)
He might have even been number six if Derrick Wilson develops more.
.... he could start from day one at Illinois.
Maybe 7th depending on how good Jamal Ferguson turns out to be.
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What part of "I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform" did you not get?? It is entirely possible to want a talented player that is or may have prima donna tendencies. Doesn't mean you don't recruit him, desire him, or want him on your team. Yet at the end of the day, it might be best if you don't get the player.
Get a grip and try* to make an effort to understand the point - and stop using teal for obviously sarcastic statements - it really is lame.
Sure, sure. I'm sure Buzz will look back some day soon and say "Ners was right, it's best we didn't get that talented kid out of Chicago. I better email him about it."
And I'll pass on taking lessons from what is and isn't lame from a grown man who refers to a high school kid as an "attention whore" because he chose a different school.
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Sure, sure. I'm sure Buzz will look back some day soon and say "Ners was right, it's best we didn't get that talented kid out of Chicago. I better email him about it."
And I'll pass on taking lessons from what is and isn't lame from a grown man who refers to a high school kid as an "attention whore" because he chose a different school.
Maybe if you followed the recruitment of the kid, and observed how ridiculous his Twitter activity has been seeking and soliciting fans of the schools he was considering over the past year to tweet at him and shower him with love to help close the deal...perhaps you'd come to a different conclusion.
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Maybe if you followed the recruitment of the kid, and observed how ridiculous his Twitter activity has been seeking and soliciting fans of the schools he was considering over the past year to tweet at him and shower him with love to help close the deal...perhaps you'd come to a different conclusion.
Grow up. The kid is 17 years old, not everyone that age knows how to handle the pressure of being a top recruit. Calling him an "attention whore" reflects poorly on all of us.
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Maybe if you followed the recruitment of the kid, and observed how ridiculous his Twitter activity has been seeking and soliciting fans of the schools he was considering over the past year to tweet at him and shower him with love to help close the deal...perhaps you'd come to a different conclusion.
I think it's safe to say that had Nunn chosen Marquette, you wouldn't have questioned his Twitter activity or made disparaging remarks about him. Pretty sure you never raised it as an issue until he committed to Illinois.
It's sour grapes, and that's all it is. No better than the stuff we've seen out of Madison about Vander Blue and Wes Matthews.
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Keep tje schooly till spring, always need room for a transfer.
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What part of "I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform" did you not get?? It is entirely possible to want a talented player that is or may have prima donna tendencies. Doesn't mean you don't recruit him, desire him, or want him on your team. Yet at the end of the day, it might be best if you don't get the player.
Get a grip and try* to make an effort to understand the point - and stop using teal for obviously sarcastic statements - it really is lame.
what's really lame is:
1. you called a kid that you don't know a whore on the internet....my guess is you'd piss yourself if you had to say it to his face...lucky for you he probably has more class than you, so he'd just laugh your comment off as the joke that it is.
2. how do you rip someone for not reading your post, when you didn't read his...if nunn would have signed with mu, you wouldn't have ripped him the way you did.
3. you don't like his use of teal
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what's really lame is:
1. you called a kid that you don't know a whore on the internet....my guess is you'd piss yourself if you had to say it to his face...lucky for you he probably has more class than you, so he'd just laugh your comment off as the joke that it is.
2. how do you rip someone for not reading your post, when you didn't read his...if nunn would have signed with mu, you wouldn't have ripped him the way you did.
3. you don't like his use of teal
Whatever...pointless to argue about a kid who isn't coming to MU. My original post said I would have liked to see him in an MU uniform - yet that his recruitment started to seem very diva, prima donna and Tim Maymon like. Could see him being a high maintenance kid, a la Reggie Smith. Sorry I used the term attention whore. Semantics. And the comments aren't sour grapes - I have no doubt Buzz will sign a high quality player with the last schollie. The Class of 2013 without Nunn is already loaded. He wasn't a make a break recruit.
But Kendrick - if you or your family are reading this - I apologize. We at least owe you a thank you for making a decision, after pursuing you for so long. Best wishes to you in your career at U of I.
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We at least owe you a thank you for making a decision, after pursuing you for so long. Best wishes to you in your career at U of I.
I agree. Thank you for not drawing out this process and coming to a decision in September, rather than later.
I wish you the best at U of I... ESPECIALLY when you play Bucky!
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Tommy see 6--- Kam Williams video is on You Tube
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So where do we stand with Chris Jones? I feel we forget about him a lot because he's another JC player that doesn't get the attention of a top 50 guy like nunn. Or has is stock risen to the blue bloods by now?
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MU didn't make Jones top 5 and I think it may have been that Jones was a JUCO and Buzz may have to steer clear of that avenue more than he did in the past. That's my answer anyway.
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I think it may have been that Jones was a JUCO and Buzz may have to steer clear of that avenue more than he did in the past. That's my answer anyway.
Two Words = Jameel McKay
Two More Words = TJ Taylor
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Two Words = Jameel McKay
Two More Words = TJ Taylor
I do not consider TJ Taylor to be a juco. He signed with Oklahoma and ended up redshirting. He only went juco, because he would of lost a season of playing time, if he had directly transferred to MU.