Vegas Line: Marquette +7

[mubb3434]

I was expecting it to be around 3.5 so I am a little shocked by this. I really hope we drop 14-16 threes on them tomorrow...

[tower912]

People thought I was exaggerating the Kohl hole effect.      IMHO, that is a larger home court advantage than most. 

[zcg2013]

I'm still confused as to how it's at +7. King, Trice, and Davison all have missed some practice this week. I'm not sure where this comes in at.

Already betting for MU to cover.

[onepost]

I'm shocked at this line, was thinking we'd see Wisconsin -2 or so.

[RideMyBuycks]

Looks like i'll be emptying my bitcoin wallet tonight.

[hairy worthen]

People thought I was exaggerating the Kohl hole effect.      IMHO, that is a larger home court advantage than most.

yeah but not 15 points. it's just not worth that much.  I would buy 7 though.

[Windyplayer]

yeah but not 15 points. it's just not worth that much.  I would buy 7 though.

That line is horrible. Guarantee it's down to 5.5 by game time.

[Windyplayer]

People thought I was exaggerating the Kohl hole effect.      IMHO, that is a larger home court advantage than most.

OSU sure felt it...

P.S. OSU was up 23 at half. Crazy.

[Goose]

Tower

Kohl is big home court advantage, but think the line is awfully high. Definitely a buyer here.

[Windyplayer]

Tower

Kohl is big home court advantage, but think the line is awfully high. Definitely a buyer here.

Agreed, but there needs to be a threshold of talent that can leverage that home court advantage. It ain't there this year.

[cheese ball chaser]

People thought I was exaggerating the Kohl hole effect.      IMHO, that is a larger home court advantage than most.

Why is the Kohl hole such a big advantage? Loud and annoying Badger fans?

[mufvr]

Bottom line is the Warriors remain disrespected. We've got to get this program and the record back to where we want it  to be and things will change.   Tomorrow is a good place to start.

[Jay Bee]

All things considered, as of the moment I think MU +4 would be reasonable.

[mufvr]

 This Wisconsin team is weak. I'll be disappointed if we don't win this game

[MUUWUWM]

Maybe they are better than most think. They have played one heck of a preseason schedule.
Should be a good game..or at least I hope so.

[PGsHeroes32]

Maybe they are better than most think. They have played one heck of a preseason schedule.
Should be a good game..or at least I hope so.

They are pretty bad. But hold a big advantage with happ that will be real tough for our lack of size and depth.

But if we don't get completely crushed by him, definitely can win

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If I could find a Wisconsin fan to take the bet I’d hammer it. 5 I asked all passed and said they wouldn’t even do it heads up.

Worth noting these are MN based Wisco grads, not some die hard sconnies.

[wadesworld]

The Kohl Hole has a big home court advantage...because the team that has been playing in it has been very good since it opened. MU has not had any issue winning at the Kohl Hole when they’ve been the better team. The question is simply whether we’re better than them. It’s two pretty mediocre teams going up against each other.

[Jay Bee]

If I could find a Wisconsin fan to take the bet I’d hammer it. 5 I asked all passed and said they wouldn’t even do it heads up.

Worth noting these are MN based Wisco grads, not some die hard sconnies.

Same. They are shook, and with good reason.

[MarquetteDano]

That does seem high to me.  Looked at one site and line is +6.  That is still high.  I think I may need to bet on this one.  I see UW pulling it out but getting six points is a lot for this matchup.

Hope the insiders don't know something we don't (injuries, suspension, etc.).

[Jay Bee]

That does seem high to me.  Looked at one site and line is +6.  That is still high.  I think I may need to bet on this one.  I see UW pulling it out but getting six points is a lot for this matchup.

Hope the insiders don't know something we don't (injuries, suspension, etc.).

I've *heard* some betting *services* have the game off line because becky has a lot of unknowns.. several dudes with injuries, illnesses, etc.

I'd be all over +7 or +6.

At any rate, just won the NCAA plaque for Markus' 3FG% last year, so I'm all good.

[mug644]

Bottom line is the Warriors remain disrespected. We've got to get this program and the record back to where we want it  to be and things will change.   Tomorrow is a good place to start.

I totally agree, but I'm pretty sure that a betting line shouldn't be a criterion for whether we are respected or not.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Not sure i disagree with this line. Weve beaten?  How many do we lose to Temple by ?, etc.  too much emotion invested on this one based on most comments.  Hope to hell im wrong but ive nit seen a whole lot to this point to think we are good enuff to go n get wins at big ten gyms.  Again hope im wrong , if we can eliminate the drive n offensive rebounds n shoot well we can win, first two concern me.

[muguru]

Not sure i disagree with this line. Weve beaten?  How many do we lose to Temple by ?, etc.  too much emotion invested on this one based on most comments.  Hope to hell im wrong but ive nit seen a whole lot to this point to think we are good enuff to go n get wins at big ten gyms.  Again hope im wrong , if we can eliminate the drive n offensive rebounds n shoot well we can win, first two concern me.

To be fair...It must be pointed out, and you probably don't realize it, but MU has out rebounded UW and out shot them this year.

[wadesworld]

Not sure i disagree with this line. Weve beaten?  How many do we lose to Temple by ?, etc.  too much emotion invested on this one based on most comments.  Hope to hell im wrong but ive nit seen a whole lot to this point to think we are good enuff to go n get wins at big ten gyms.  Again hope im wrong , if we can eliminate the drive n offensive rebounds n shoot well we can win, first two concern me.

Throw one back for me.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Badgers were -9 going into their game against Ohio State. MU by 27. #donedeal

[jsglow]

Two observations.  Vegas needs equal dollars on both sides of the bet.  Second, NCAA has always had a lag effect with NCAA hoops in my experience. When JFB was a Senior we snuck up on everyone.  While MU didn't win every game, we covered about 80%. (I remember.  )  Vegas hasn't yet figured out that Bucky blows this year.  The bookmakers simply don't follow it quite as closely as the NFL, especially below the Top 25. 

And again, refer to rule one.  The ONLY job is equal money on each side.

[Goose]

TAMU


I am going with MU in a rout. If it does not happen I will not be bitching, unless they lay a major, major egg. Two average teams and one that can score points, should be an easy win, IMO.

[esotericmindguy]

TAMU


I am going with MU in a rout. If it does not happen I will not be bitching, unless they lay a major, major egg. Two average teams and one that can score points, should be an easy win, IMO.

This statement is a good example why you don't bet on your favorite team. UW has played ranked teams tough on a neutral court, took xavier down to the end and had a late lead against a tough Temple team on the road. Plus UW plays a lot like Georgia, which didn't end well last weekend.

[Dr. Blackheart]

This statement is a good example why you don't bet on your favorite team. UW has played ranked teams tough on a neutral court, took xavier down to the end and had a late lead against a tough Temple team on the road. Plus UW plays a lot like Georgia, which didn't end well last weekend.

And EIU took MU to OT at the BC.  MU needs to play defense to get respect on the road.

[79Warrior]

TAMU


I am going with MU in a rout. If it does not happen I will not be bitching, unless they lay a major, major egg. Two average teams and one that can score points, should be an easy win, IMO.

Goose,

First true road game and a tough gym. This is going to be closer than many people think. Would not be surprised to see UW win.

[muguru]

Let's see how much the line moves when the bettors catch wind of the fact that Trice is OUT today. 

[Stretchdeltsig]

Agreed, but there needs to be a threshold of talent that can leverage that home court advantage. It ain't there this year.

Agree the rodents have Happ and zip.  The Warriors will win this game.  Would love to see a slaughter.

[Goose]

eso

This guy is far from a homer when it comes to a wager. Would NEVER bet against MU, but my comments are not based off being a fan. I think the Badgers stink and MU can score points.

[forgetful]

Let's see how much the line moves when the bettors catch wind of the fact that Trice is OUT today. 

Trice's eFG% was 45.6% with over 9 FGA per game.  People may bet more on UW with him being out.  King and Pritzl are likely better players (haven't been doing it yet though).

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Trice's eFG% was 45.6% with over 9 FGA per game.  People may bet more on UW with him being out.  King and Pritzl are likely better players (haven't been doing it yet though).

If Trice is out, (I've heard rumors based on a tweet by Trice's mom but haven't found an official confirmation yet) it is a big blow for Bucky. Trice is the closest thing to a PG that they have. Happ was bringing the ball up against Temple when Trice was out. And while he he has been cold to start the season, he did shoot 42% from three last season. One less shooter that Happ can pass to out of the double team.

Wisconsin only uses an 8 man rotation so this brings that down to 7. They have three big men on the bench who can theoretically play in Van Vilet, Illianikin, and Thomas. I wonder if Gard will run with 7 or if they will use some two big sets with Happ and Reuevers/Van Vilet both on the floor. Badgers are not a team that likes to do things they normally don't do, forcing an adjustment like that could really hurt their flow.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I dunno, with Trice out this kinda reminds me of 2012 when Bruesewitz wasn't playing and we ran them out of the gym.

Obviously very different teams, but that's probably the last time you can say the two teams were even or Marquette had a slight advantage.

[Loose Cannon]

  Vegas hasn't yet figured out that Bucky blows this year.  The bookmakers simply don't follow it quite as closely as the NFL, especially below the Top 25. 

That's exactly how I see it.

[muguru]

Interesting...the site I check opened at -5, it's now up to -6.5...very strange.

[wadesworld]

I remember when Doogie was out for the UW game. I thought MU was going to lose with him, get smoked without him surely. But we won.

You never know.

[Boozemon Barro]

I've been doing well this year fading Wisconsin. They keep being favored every game even though they're garbage. I'll be hammering the ML at +220.

[muguru]

Uh oh...


 Jim Polzin
✔
@JimPolzinWSJ

The #Badgers are going to be really thin today. No sign of D’Mitrik Trice or Kobe King during pregame warmups.

[forgetful]

If Trice is out, (I've heard rumors based on a tweet by Trice's mom but haven't found an official confirmation yet) it is a big blow for Bucky. Trice is the closest thing to a PG that they have. Happ was bringing the ball up against Temple when Trice was out. And while he he has been cold to start the season, he did shoot 42% from three last season. One less shooter that Happ can pass to out of the double team.

Wisconsin only uses an 8 man rotation so this brings that down to 7. They have three big men on the bench who can theoretically play in Van Vilet, Illianikin, and Thomas. I wonder if Gard will run with 7 or if they will use some two big sets with Happ and Reuevers/Van Vilet both on the floor. Badgers are not a team that likes to do things they normally don't do, forcing an adjustment like that could really hurt their flow.

I expect them to go big, and play even slower than ever.  Try to get the game played in the 40s.  They will bump (or should I say hump) our guards constantly on the perimeter, but they will get the Kohl treatment and nothing will be called. 

7 man rotation becomes no problem, when they get called for 5 fouls the entire game.  Expect the opposite on our end with Howard getting called for 2 "bump" fouls quick.

[cheebs09]

I expect them to go big, and play even slower than ever.  Try to get the game played in the 40s.  They will bump (or should I say hump) our guards constantly on the perimeter, but they will get the Kohl treatment and nothing will be called. 

7 man rotation becomes no problem, when they get called for 5 fouls the entire game.  Expect the opposite on our end with Howard getting called for 2 "bump" falls quick.

True, but they have played 4 games in 7 days. With two on the road. So their lack of depth could affect their legs.

 Playing more of their big guys would worry me about the possibility of Sam getting in foul trouble.

[WarriorDad]

TAMU


I am going with MU in a rout. If it does not happen I will not be bitching, unless they lay a major, major egg. Two average teams and one that can score points, should be an easy win, IMO.

You guys are more optimistic than I.  The Kohl Center is a tough place to play.  Wisconsin has been in most games this year down to the final two minutes. 

Lost to UCLA by 2
Lost at Temple by 4  (had lead with 3 minutes to go)
Lost to ranked Baylor by 5 (two point game with two minutes to play)
Lost to Xavier (tie game with 2 minutes to go)

What am I missing here?  Why is this a rout, even a win?  This will be a tough game for us and I expect to be on the wrong side of the W / L column, but neither result would surprise me.  A rout?

[muguru]

You guys are more optimistic than I.  The Kohl Center is a tough place to play.  Wisconsin has been in most games this year down to the final two minutes. 

Lost to UCLA by 2
Lost at Temple by 4  (had lead with 3 minutes to go)
Lost to ranked Baylor by 5 (two point game with two minutes to play)
Lost to Xavier (tie game with 2 minutes to go)

What am I missing here?  Why is this a rout, even a win?  This will be a tough game for us and I expect to be on the wrong side of the W / L column, but neither result would surprise me.  A rout?

King and Trice both officially OUT..They have to play a walk on Guard today that has never even suited up..If MU doesn't win this game...

[jsglow]

King and Trice both officially OUT..They have to play a walk on Guard today that has never even suited up..If MU doesn't win this game...

Schlundt. 

[WarriorDad]

King and Trice both officially OUT..They have to play a walk on Guard today that has never even suited up..If MU doesn't win this game...

OK, but the predictions here were made before that knowledge was known and seemed highly optimistic.

[muguru]

Line down to -4-5. Glad I got the money line at +225 

[mileskishnish72]

I was going to call my man and lay the 6 until I read the Scoop.

[CubillanSandwich]

Easy money.  Bitcoin that is.

[auburnmarquette]

Problem is we are allowing teams to shoot over 57% on 2-pointers and they may have the best big man around the basket in Happ. We only kept it close for a half last year at home because Happ sat most of the first half with fouls. They were pretty dominant with him back in the second half and that was with much more if an inside presence in Fischer. I think the line is realistic, but as a terrible-defense-great-3-point-shooting team we always have a chance to trade 3s for 2s if we are hot, but it would be a great upset if we won.

[auburnmarquette]

And our 57.1% is the worst of any major conference team

[Goose]

My prediction was made yesterday. MU in a rout.

[skianth16]

Problem is we are allowing teams to shoot over 57% on 2-pointers and they may have the best big man around the basket in Happ. We only kept it close for a half last year at home because Happ sat most of the first half with fouls. They were pretty dominant with him back in the second half and that was with much more if an inside presence in Fischer. I think the line is realistic, but as a terrible-defense-great-3-point-shooting team we always have a chance to trade 3s for 2s if we are hot, but it would be a great upset if we won.

I'm happy with the defense against Happ so far. The quick doubles seem to throw him off, even though youd think he'd be used to that by now.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Problem is we are allowing teams to shoot over 57% on 2-pointers and they may have the best big man around the basket in Happ. We only kept it close for a half last year at home because Happ sat most of the first half with fouls. They were pretty dominant with him back in the second half and that was with much more if an inside presence in Fischer. I think the line is realistic, but as a terrible-defense-great-3-point-shooting team we always have a chance to trade 3s for 2s if we are hot, but it would be a great upset if we won.

Obviously, you don't understand our strategy to win by out scoring the opponent by keeping our high power offense on the court. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Easy money.

[Boozemon Barro]

Easy money.

Yup. Anyone who actually watched Wisco play knew that they can't score. Their best offense is hoping to get bailed out by the refs every possession.

[Mutaman]

Yup. Anyone who actually watched Wisco play knew that they can't score. Their best offense is hoping to get bailed out by the refs every possession.

Your bookie is smarter than u are, but every once in awhile the boys in Vegas screw the pooch.

[Boozemon Barro]

Your bookie is smarter than u are, but every once in awhile the boys in Vegas screw the pooch.

Wisco is now 1-6 ATS against P6 teams this year and has straight up lost 5 games they were favored in.

[mileskishnish72]

Goose and Chitown, you were right. $220 swing for the afternoon. Glad you brought me to my senses.

[Bad_Reporter]

Easy $1000

Paid for my season tickets.  Thanks!

[Goose]

miles

It was cupcake city today.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Proud to be wrong on the blow out chatter.

[esotericmindguy]

I was wrong. Great win, blowout indeed. Loved it.

[WarriorDad]

Don't think we blow them out if fully healthy, but the way we played today we were going to win.  Some of our fouls, we need to play a little smarter.  Awesome to see Wisconsin go down in the Kohl Center.