Mayweather mcgregor

[Marquette4life]

Who y'all got

[Pakuni]

Who y'all got

A boxing match between one of the best boxers of all time and a guy who's never been in an amateur or professional boxing match?
Tough call.

[🏀]

Sting, from the rafters with a black bat, because after everything that has happened so far, why not?

[brewcity77]

The real winner will be whoever has the PPV rights.

[JWags85]

Mayweather by unanimous decision in a boring fight without a single knockdown.  McGregor doesn't have a shot of connecting against the best defensive fighter of all time.  Mayweather didn't have knock out power left 5 years ago, and certainly doesn't now.  Yawn.

[Galway Eagle]

Not to be grouchy but our resident retired boxer already posted a thread about this

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=54376.msg933505#msg933505

And mayweather in a land slide. Mcgregor wouldn't even be the best Irish boxer let alone beat the best ever. I do expect he won't be as timid about mayweather constantly throwing elbows the way that other boxers are so that'll at least be something 

[jficke13]

McGregor comes out swinging like a wild boar, can't crack the defense of the best defensive boxer of all time, punches himself out, Mayweather knocks him out with a feather duster in round 5.

[Galway Eagle]

What's idiotic to me is Mcgregor doesn't even have a legit boxing coach training him he's using an mma coach and primarily working with his striking coach. Which is not boxing.

Meanwhile mayweather is far gone from the hard work dedication sadist who's gym I visited for a sparing session years ago. Instead he's focused on yoga and his strip club

[warriorchick]

Oh, I thought this was a thread about a new prospect named Mayweather McGregor.

Would definitely make the cool names list.

[Jockey]

Who y'all got

I think you mean "what y'all got"

My Money!! I can't believe anyone would pay for this racistly-hyped garbage. But, I didn't believe anyone would pay for a hype-created no talent fighter like Rowsey either.

[StillAWarrior]

McGregor comes out swinging like a wild boar, can't crack the defense of the best defensive boxer of all time, punches himself out, Mayweather knocks him out with a feather duster in round 5.

Pretty much the way I see it going.

[tower912]

The 'fight' will last as long as Floyd wants it to.

[jficke13]

The 'fight' will last as long as Floyd wants it to.

So maybe the real question is: What round does Floyd have his plants putting money down that he knocks out Macgregor in?

[StillAWarrior]

I saw at one of the pressers that Mayweather said he could be McGregor in any ring.  After Mayweather beats McGregor this month, I really, really hope he will agree to an MMA "rematch."  Now, that, I'd like to see.  Unfortunately, I realize there's probably no way in hell that will ever happen.

[Tortuga94]

Not to be grouchy but our resident retired boxer already posted a thread about this

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=54376.msg933505#msg933505

And mayweather in a land slide. Mcgregor wouldn't even be the best Irish boxer let alone beat the best ever. I do expect he won't be as timid about mayweather constantly throwing elbows the way that other boxers are so that'll at least be something

Just curious, are you somebody a die-hard boxing fan would recognize? I used to follow the sport religiously from the late 80s into the early 2000s. Read every copy of the RING magazine and KO. Used to be really active in boxing forums too. I still post in one too but not regularly.

I stopped following it closely but am starting to watch more, especially the HBO and Showtime cards.

[Galway Eagle]

Just curious, are you somebody a die-hard boxing fan would recognize? I used to follow the sport religiously from the late 80s into the early 2000s. Read every copy of the RING magazine and KO. Used to be really active in boxing forums too. I still post in one too but not regularly.

I stopped following it closely but am starting to watch more, especially the HBO and Showtime cards.

In the Chicago amateur circuit I'd be fairly recognizable and decently so in Wisconsin's but I never went pro only have been paid as a professional sparring partner.

[JWags85]

McGregor comes out swinging like a wild boar, can't crack the defense of the best defensive boxer of all time, punches himself out, Mayweather knocks him out with a feather duster in round 5.

Ive seen a couple people saying this, or something along the lines of Mayweather beating the piss out of him.  And I don't see it.  Not cause McGregor is a skilled fighter, but because of Mayweather's skillset.

Not counting the bizarre ending to the Victor Ortiz fight, Mayweather hasn't knocked a fighter out in 10 years. TEN, going back to the Hatton fight.  Add in McGregor's chin which is used to taking a catch punches from harder hitting fighters with lighter gloves, I think he can likely eat a lot of punches.

This is in no way an indictment of McGregor's boxing skill, but I just dont see it being some easy knockout for Floyd, I honestly don't see him knocking him out at all. Just my thoughts.

[Pakuni]

Ive seen a couple people saying this, or something along the lines of Mayweather beating the piss out of him.  And I don't see it.  Not cause McGregor is a skilled fighter, but because of Mayweather's skillset.

Not counting the bizarre ending to the Victor Ortiz fight, Mayweather hasn't knocked a fighter out in 10 years. TEN, going back to the Hatton fight.  Add in McGregor's chin which is used to taking a catch punches from harder hitting fighters with lighter gloves, I think he can likely eat a lot of punches.

This is in no way an indictment of McGregor's boxing skill, but I just dont see it being some easy knockout for Floyd, I honestly don't see him knocking him out at all. Just my thoughts.

You may be right, but I think you may also be discounting volume and accuracy. Simply put, I don't think McGregor has ever been hit as often or as cleanly as he's going to be hit by Mayweather.
As you note, Floyd's never been a KO artist, but over his career he's thrown an average 39 punches per round and landed a remarkable 46 percent of those punches. And that's against top boxers, not MMA guys masquerading as boxers. Five rounds in, Floyd is going to have landed 100+ punches, I think. For  comparison's sake, in the Diaz fight, McGregor absorbed a total of 74 head/body strikes. (Also, Diaz landed at 50 percent accuracy ... not a good sign when going against someone as accurate as Mayweather).

Floyd is unlikely to KO McGregor with one big shot or combination, but the cumulative effect of all the clean shots McGregor is going to take might do him in.

[Skitch]

Honest question, what are the chances McGregor gets trapped in the corner and instinct/muscle memory takes over and he tackles Floyd mma style.

[Galway Eagle]

Ive seen a couple people saying this, or something along the lines of Mayweather beating the piss out of him.  And I don't see it.  Not cause McGregor is a skilled fighter, but because of Mayweather's skillset.

Not counting the bizarre ending to the Victor Ortiz fight, Mayweather hasn't knocked a fighter out in 10 years. TEN, going back to the Hatton fight.  Add in McGregor's chin which is used to taking a catch punches from harder hitting fighters with lighter gloves, I think he can likely eat a lot of punches.

This is in no way an indictment of McGregor's boxing skill, but I just dont see it being some easy knockout for Floyd, I honestly don't see him knocking him out at all. Just my thoughts.

There was a study done with the force behind bare hands, mma gloves and boxing gloves and boxing gloves had more force begins them. Not saying the pain is the same since obviously there's more padding but it is a big misconception if you think mma guys hit harder.

[JWags85]

There was a study done with the force behind bare hands, mma gloves and boxing gloves and boxing gloves had more force begins them. Not saying the pain is the same since obviously there's more padding but it is a big misconception if you think mma guys hit harder.

I didn't think they hit harder, I just thought the blows/contact would hurt more, affect a fighter more.  You could drill me with double the force using one of those American Gladiator jousting sticks, but I think less force with a 2x4 would hurt/daze me more.  I was watching a sport science talking about how the force, while greater, is spread out over more area due to the structure of a glove.

Just a thought, not claiming to be an expert. 

[jficke13]

Ive seen a couple people saying this, or something along the lines of Mayweather beating the piss out of him.  And I don't see it.  Not cause McGregor is a skilled fighter, but because of Mayweather's skillset.

Not counting the bizarre ending to the Victor Ortiz fight, Mayweather hasn't knocked a fighter out in 10 years. TEN, going back to the Hatton fight.  Add in McGregor's chin which is used to taking a catch punches from harder hitting fighters with lighter gloves, I think he can likely eat a lot of punches.

This is in no way an indictment of McGregor's boxing skill, but I just dont see it being some easy knockout for Floyd, I honestly don't see him knocking him out at all. Just my thoughts.

I guess the way I see it is that McGregor's one shot is to land some brutal lucky punch and the odds of him doing so will go do rapidly as the fight wears on. So, if that's his one road to victory, he's got to come out swinging early, often, and hard. If he gets exhausted then even a non-KO artist could perhaps knock him out.

Also, a fascinating read:

http://deadspin.com/floyd-mayweather-vs-conor-mcgregor-is-the-second-bigge-1797272009

"Sparring: McGregor walks directly into punches. He keeps his hands too low, and is forced to constantly make adjustments to block and throw punches. These adjustments are done too slowly, with no sense of anticipation as to either where the incoming punch will land or where his own punch should go. In coming forward, he often presents himself as a square target, and he doesn’t move his head. He loops slow punches from the outside, leaving himself entirely vulnerable to counter shots. His footwork is poor, alternating between a too wide stance that simultaneously makes him unable to punch and susceptible to being knocked off balance, and an overcompensating tendency to place his feet nearly together, a mistake that will produce the same sorry results as the overly wide stance. By pro boxing standards, he has no power at all. When moving around the ring, he often crosses one foot in front of the other, a recipe for being embarrassed by any boxer better than a novice pro with a losing record.

Grade: F"

[emphasis added]

If that's the actual book on McGreggor in the ring against Floyd, then, when exhausted, at some point he's going to throw a wide, slow, hook, that Floyd will see coming a mile away, avoid, and blow McGreggor's face off with a counter punch.

Wham. Bam. Hope I can find a free stream because this isn't worth the money. Thank you maam.

[MUBurrow]

Honest question, what are the chances McGregor gets trapped in the corner and instinct/muscle memory takes over and he tackles Floyd mma style.

I had thought there was a good chance that would happen, but so did the promoters because they added hefty DQ penalties for McGregor to the fight contract.  If you let him keep the loser's purse through a DQ, I think he would have done something to get DQ'ed, because I don't think he every fights again after this - boxing, MMA or otherwise - and it would give him a broader celebrity. As it stands though, he can't afford to lose the cash.

[Galway Eagle]

I guess the way I see it is that McGregor's one shot is to land some brutal lucky punch and the odds of him doing so will go do rapidly as the fight wears on. So, if that's his one road to victory, he's got to come out swinging early, often, and hard. If he gets exhausted then even a non-KO artist could perhaps knock him out.

Also, a fascinating read:

http://deadspin.com/floyd-mayweather-vs-conor-mcgregor-is-the-second-bigge-1797272009

"Sparring: McGregor walks directly into punches. He keeps his hands too low, and is forced to constantly make adjustments to block and throw punches. These adjustments are done too slowly, with no sense of anticipation as to either where the incoming punch will land or where his own punch should go. In coming forward, he often presents himself as a square target, and he doesn’t move his head. He loops slow punches from the outside, leaving himself entirely vulnerable to counter shots. His footwork is poor, alternating between a too wide stance that simultaneously makes him unable to punch and susceptible to being knocked off balance, and an overcompensating tendency to place his feet nearly together, a mistake that will produce the same sorry results as the overly wide stance. By pro boxing standards, he has no power at all. When moving around the ring, he often crosses one foot in front of the other, a recipe for being embarrassed by any boxer better than a novice pro with a losing record.

Grade: F"

[emphasis added]

If that's the actual book on McGreggor in the ring against Floyd, then, when exhausted, at some point he's going to throw a wide, slow, hook, that Floyd will see coming a mile away, avoid, and blow McGreggor's face off with a counter punch.

Wham. Bam. Hope I can find a free stream because this isn't worth the money. Thank you maam.

This is a fascinating read. I always said MMA guys naturally spread their legs too far apart for boxing. It makes it easier to defend and counter with kicks but in a boxing match it puts you hugely off balance. I don't know anything about McGregors power but I'm not surprised to read that he doesn't have much power compared to pro boxers. People think because striking is incorporated into MMA that it must be the same power behind those punches but fail to realize the hours that are spent doing grappling, kickboxing, elbows, jujitsu/wrestling are all spent throwing punches by boxers which makes speed accuracy and power all exponentially better.

Sure he has a shot, he's going against an old defensive fighter. If he was fighting Canelo or GGG this would be over in a heartbeat.

[GooooMarquette]

Apparently, MMA fans are more likely to gamble than traditional boxing fans....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-11/gamblers-apparently-think-mcgregor-could-really-beat-mayweather

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My hope is that Mayweather trash talks McGregor enough that he gets pissed off and kicks Mayweather in the face. Would be quite the spectacle.

[Jay Bee]

What kind of odds does someone want to give me if I take CM?

[Galway Eagle]

 mayweather really seems to be phoning it in for his training and Mcgregor is doing things like the Russian in rocky 4. Doesn't make me feel good for boxing this fight.

Anybody doing anything exciting for the fight?

[JWags85]

What kind of odds does someone want to give me if I take CM?

Odds are +350 to +400 depending.  I'd give you 4 to 1

mayweather really seems to be phoning it in for his training and Mcgregor is doing things like the Russian in rocky 4. Doesn't make me feel good for boxing this fight.

Anybody doing anything exciting for the fight?

Cause Mayweather doesn't feel threatened and knows he can sleepwalk his way to a unanimous decision at worst.

I did see that according to William Hill, this is by far the most bet fight in history, and their potential loss liability on a McGregor win is the highest of any sporting event ever.

[jficke13]

mayweather really seems to be phoning it in for his training and Mcgregor is doing things like the Russian in rocky 4. Doesn't make me feel good for boxing this fight.

Anybody doing anything exciting for the fight?

Kinda hoping to stumble on a stream, but in reality forgetting about the fight and doing something else entirely, then reading about what a travesty it was on Sunday morning and shrugging my shoulders.

[MUBurrow]

mayweather really seems to be phoning it in for his training and Mcgregor is doing things like the Russian in rocky 4. Doesn't make me feel good for boxing this fight.

Anybody doing anything exciting for the fight?

I'm planning on ordering it because I'm a shameless consumer of the hype machine, and having a couple people over to defer the cost.

On that note - is anyone else planning on getting it through an xbox one? I think the UFC app is my only option there, and  it seems like I have to sign up for a month of UFC Fight Pass for $10, in addition to the $100 for the fight. Anyone else have other ideas for cord cutter? The $10 is more insult to my self-inflicted $100 injury, but I can't blame myself for being stupid, so I'm choosing to be bitter about the fight pass thing.

[Lennys Tap]

What kind of odds does someone want to give me if I take CM?

Fight opened Mayweather -2250 McGregor +900 (so "fair value was 15.75 -1) now about 4-1. Borderline unbelievable.

[GooooMarquette]

Fight opened Mayweather -2250 McGregor +900 (so "fair value was 15.75 -1) now about 4-1. Borderline unbelievable.

I think boxing (Mayweather) fans view it as a novelty so they aren't as likely to place a bet...while MMA (McGregor) fans view it as a big opportunity to give their sport legitimacy, so they are betting with their emotions.

[jficke13]

I think boxing (Mayweather) fans view it as a novelty so they aren't as likely to place a bet...while MMA (McGregor) fans view it as a big opportunity to give their sport legitimacy, so they are betting with their emotions.

I posted a link to a story on deadspin a bit up thread where the writer, who was an old time boxing insider, talked about the biggest mismatch fights of all time. He said something along the lines of "these fights are designed to seperate suckers from their money." Almost all played on emotion of some kind, many played on race/nationalism, any hook to get lots of people to place bets on the longshots, who were, according to him, no-shots.

That's this fight 1-2-3.

[Tugg Speedman]

Vegas will suffer historic loss if McGregor KO's Mayweather
Fans of Irish MMA superstar flooding bookies with small bets that will pay off big
August 24, 2017

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4261111

Conor McGregor is making a lot of wise guys nervous in this gambling city.

Should he somehow manage to knock out Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the early rounds Saturday night, the city's bookmakers would lose millions of dollars in the biggest single event loss in the history of sports betting.

McGregor fans have flooded sports books with $100 bills backing the mixed martial arts fighter, and even a late surge of money on Mayweather might not be enough to balance the books.

"I'm OK now," said William Hill oddsmaker Nick Bogdanovich. "But you might want to have a heart monitor on me when the bell rings and Conor starts throwing wild lefts."

Bogdanovich said his chain of sports books will suffer multimillion dollar losses — their worst ever — should McGregor win the fight in any fashion. If he wins early as he has promised, the losses would be even worse.

The big bettors are putting their money on Mayweather, who is 49-0 as a pro. But so many McGregor fans are betting small amounts that the betting slips at William Hill were 18-1 in the Irish fighter's favour.

There have also been big Mayweather bets at the MGM Grand, including a $500,000 wager on Wednesday. MGM Resorts oddsmaker Jay Rood, though, said the sheer volume of McGregor bets is overwhelming the big Mayweather bet.

Rood said his books have taken 6,700 bets on McGregor and only 300 on Mayweather. The average bet on McGregor is $125, while the average for Mayweather is $4,000.

If McGregor wins, Rood said MGM will be a big loser and the state will suffer its biggest single event loss ever.

[jficke13]

The only way McGregor wins is if the fight is rigged. I think the Vegas books are safe.

[GooooMarquette]

Vegas will suffer historic loss if McGregor KO's Mayweather
Fans of Irish MMA superstar flooding bookies with small bets that will pay off big
August 24, 2017

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4261111

Conor McGregor is making a lot of wise guys nervous in this gambling city.

Should he somehow manage to knock out Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the early rounds Saturday night, the city's bookmakers would lose millions of dollars in the biggest single event loss in the history of sports betting.

McGregor fans have flooded sports books with $100 bills backing the mixed martial arts fighter, and even a late surge of money on Mayweather might not be enough to balance the books.

"I'm OK now," said William Hill oddsmaker Nick Bogdanovich. "But you might want to have a heart monitor on me when the bell rings and Conor starts throwing wild lefts."

Bogdanovich said his chain of sports books will suffer multimillion dollar losses — their worst ever — should McGregor win the fight in any fashion. If he wins early as he has promised, the losses would be even worse.

The big bettors are putting their money on Mayweather, who is 49-0 as a pro. But so many McGregor fans are betting small amounts that the betting slips at William Hill were 18-1 in the Irish fighter's favour.

There have also been big Mayweather bets at the MGM Grand, including a $500,000 wager on Wednesday. MGM Resorts oddsmaker Jay Rood, though, said the sheer volume of McGregor bets is overwhelming the big Mayweather bet.

Rood said his books have taken 6,700 bets on McGregor and only 300 on Mayweather. The average bet on McGregor is $125, while the average for Mayweather is $4,000.

If McGregor wins, Rood said MGM will be a big loser and the state will suffer its biggest single event loss ever.

A lot of large Mayweather bets are coming in late...including some in the million plus range. I think the Vegas types are breathing a little easier.

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/20448655/1-million-bets-come-floyd-mayweather-ahead-conor-mcgregor-showdown

[Tugg Speedman]

The only way McGregor wins is if the fight is rigged. I think the Vegas books are safe.

If this was an MMA fight, would McGregor be as big a favorite as Mayweather is now?

In other words, who has a better chance at winning ... McGregor in a boxing match or Mayweather in an MMA fight?

[jficke13]

The same chance: i.e. Mayweather would be a 100-1 longshot in the octagon, just as McGregor (should be) a  100-1 longshot in the boxing ring.

[reinko]

The same chance: i.e. Mayweather would be a 100-1 longshot in the octagon, just as McGregor (should be) a  100-1 longshot in the boxing ring.

If this were an MMA fight, the odds would be @ something like McGregor -5000 if not higher.  Floyd, while possibly the best pound for pound fighter of all time, has always been a defensive fighter with not much power. (thus why CM has a sliver if a chance, because punching is punching, and due packs a wallop (but for reals is way too slow)  If this were an MMA fight, McGregor would honestly grapple him in the first 20 seconds, take him down, and it would be over.

[jesmu84]

Floyd controlled that entire fight. He could have ended it way earlier. I happen to believe it was a good "show" for a possible rematch

[GooooMarquette]

Floyd controlled that entire fight. He could have ended it way earlier. I happen to believe it was a good "show" for a possible rematch

I didn't watch or read any reviews yet, but was surprised to see that it lasted 10 rounds. I sort of suspected Mayweather let it go that long.

[jficke13]

A friend ended up getting the fight and a bunch of us watched it. I expected McGregor to go down in round 5-6, so he outperformed I suppose. It was more entertaining than I expected.

Also, McGregor should get a belt for post-fight interviewing. That was hysterical.