Marquette Newcomer Previews

[MomofMUltiples]

"Jamal Cain is our best athlete"

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/893155284918468608/video/1


"Ed Morrow will combine athleticism with physical presence in the paint in 218-19"

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/892794161287516160


"Harry Froling has been committed to the MU strength program and it shows"

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/892421637739393025


Starting to get excited for the season.

[warriorchick]

Looks like Wojo needs to use a sunscreen with a higher SPF.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Definitely excited for the season however I'm having a hard time not looking forward to 18-19 because I think that team has a chance to be special (obviously I know things can and will change but that squad looks stacked). 

[Nukem2]

Definitely excited for the season however I'm having a hard time not looking forward to 18-19 because I think that team has a chance to be special (obviously I know things can and will change but that squad looks stacked).

Looks exciting, though I wish there was a bit more quickness in that potential squad ( i.e., that's where Grimes comes into play in that scenario).

[VegasWarrior77]

Looks like Wojo needs to use a sunscreen with a higher SPF.

Probably too much exposure to the Vegas sun!

[MarquetteDano]

Looks like Wojo needs to use a sunscreen with a higher SPF.

Trying to show his respect for Marquette lineage by doing his ode to Crean?  ;

[Herman Cain]

Jamal Cain has the potential to be a modern day Bernard King.

[GGGG]

Jamal Cain has the potential to be a modern day Bernard King.

In style maybe.  In results?  Very doubtful.

[brewcity77]

Definitely excited for the season however I'm having a hard time not looking forward to 18-19 because I think that team has a chance to be special (obviously I know things can and will change but that squad looks stacked).

The last time I was this excited for a season a year off was for the 2013-14 season 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In style maybe.  In results?  Very doubtful.

Happy 22K!

[fjm]

Happy 22K!

Whoa. I feel like I should start posting more. Sheesh

[DCHoopster]

Jamal Cain has the potential to be a modern day Bernard King.

I truly understand your excitement, but Bernard King, seriously?  He might have some of Kings explosiveness but not his body yet.  Maybe in 3 to 4 years, he might
be 80% of Bernard.   Bernard and Ernie were awesome together.  Great entertainment.  It will be interesting to see how he plays Cain and for that matter Elliott.

[tower912]

Bernard King was a player who's skill wouldn't translate today. He,   Adrian Dantley, and Mark Agguire are great scorers from that era who would struggle in today's NBA. Simply not tall enough, not quick enough, and didn't play defense.
   I watch the videos of Cain and think Sean Elliot with more range.   

[Nukem2]

Bernard King was a player who's skill wouldn't translate today. He,   Adrian Dantley, and Mark Agguire are great scorers from that era who would struggle in today's NBA. Simply not tall enough, not quick enough, and didn't play defense.
   I watch the videos of Cain and think Sean Elliot with more range.   

Bernard King was very quick.  You may be thinking of his brother Albert who was bulkier.

[tower912]

I remember Bernard.    Scoring machine.   One of the great showdowns in a playoff series that ultimately nothing was him versus Isaiah Thomas.   Nothing but respect.   I am simply saying that 6'7, 205 lbs, gimpy knees trying to score from the baseline and mid post would not work in today's NBA.    Just like Adrian Dantley trying to work the low and mid post at 6'4 would not work today.   

[Nukem2]

I remember Bernard.    Scoring machine.   One of the great showdowns in a playoff series that ultimately nothing was him versus Isaiah Thomas.   Nothing but respect.   I am simply saying that 6'7, 205 lbs, gimpy knees trying to score from the baseline and mid post would not work in today's NBA.    Just like Adrian Dantley trying to work the low and mid post at 6'4 would not work today.

His wiki page disagrees. Knees may have slowed him later.

[muwarrior69]

Looks like Wojo needs to use a sunscreen with a higher SPF.

...and I thought it was my computer screen out of whack.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Looks like Wojo needs to use a sunscreen with a higher SPF.

Wojo just wants to look his best when he rides out on an ATV in a karate outfit at Madness.

[Jockey]

Jamal Cain has the potential to be a modern day Bernard King.

That is so far beyond stupid - even for you. Without the devastating knee injury, king would have been a top 25 all-time player.

[Jockey]

Bernard King was a player who's skill wouldn't translate today. He,   Adrian Dantley, and Mark Agguire are great scorers from that era who would struggle in today's NBA. Simply not tall enough, not quick enough, and didn't play defense.
   I watch the videos of Cain and think Sean Elliot with more range.   

Completely disagree on King. He would be a 25 peg scorer in any era. Had the quickest release of any shooter I have ever seen.

[Herman Cain]

Bernard King was a player who's skill wouldn't translate today. He,   Adrian Dantley, and Mark Agguire are great scorers from that era who would struggle in today's NBA. Simply not tall enough, not quick enough, and didn't play defense.
   I watch the videos of Cain and think Sean Elliot with more range.   

Completely disagree on King. He would be a 25 peg scorer in any era. Had the quickest release of any shooter I have ever seen.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s5XqzFDWkeg

[Boone]

So, a hall of famer and arguably one of the top 50 players of all time couldn't find a place in today's game?! Brilliant analysis, Tower!

[tower912]

Bernard King IS one of the great scorers of all time.    At 6'7, 205.    He did the majority of his work inside 18 feet.    Deadly from the baseline, deadly from the mid post.    I have nothing but respect for him.     What position would he play TODAY?    Who would be guarding him TODAY?    How would his skill set translate in TODAY's game?   He couldn't play SG and he is small for a modern SF.   He rarely shot the 3.     

Same thing with Dantley.    He was PG sized by modern standards and he did all of his work 17 feet and in.   Would he be able to score against Green?    Who would he guard?

I admired these guys.   I rooted for them, against them, appreciated everything about their games in the 80's.

[Nukem2]

Bernard King IS one of the great scorers of all time.    At 6'7, 205.    He did the majority of his work inside 18 feet.    Deadly from the baseline, deadly from the mid post.    I have nothing but respect for him.     What position would he play TODAY?    Who would be guarding him TODAY?    How would his skill set translate in TODAY's game?   He couldn't play SG and he is small for a modern SF.   He rarely shot the 3.     

Same thing with Dantley.    He was PG sized by modern standards and he did all of his work 17 feet and in.   Would he be able to score against Green?    Who would he guard?

I admired these guys.   I rooted for them, against them, appreciated everything about their games in the 80's.

King would be great today.  Saw him in person.  Suspect his game pre-injury would have adapted quite  well to the  3 point mania of today.  Dantley and Aguirre were ptoducts of their  time.  Don't think they would have translated well to today's NBA game.  Still would have been very good collegiate players.

[GGGG]

King would be great today.  Saw him in person.  Suspect his game pre-injury would have adapted quite  well to the  3 point mania of today.  Dantley and Aguirre were ptoducts of their  time.  Don't think they would have translated well to today's NBA game.  Still would have been very good collegiate players.

I agree completely Nuke.  King's game was very translatable to today with his speed and length.  Probably would not be a long distance bomber, but he would be able to put the ball in the hoop.  Dantley and Aguirre?  I agree there. 

[NCMUFan]

Wojo said Ed Morrow is going to explode next year  .

[brewcity77]

Wojo said Ed Morrow is going to explode next year  .

That's not good. Though it would explain where Grimes' scholarship will come from.

[Loose Cannon]

That's not good. Though it would explain where Grimes' scholarship will come from.

What am I missing?  Wouldn't 18-19 be the first year for both.  Thanks

[GGGG]

What am I missing?  Wouldn't 18-19 be the first year for both.  Thanks

You're missing the joke.

[MU82]

Bernard King IS one of the great scorers of all time.    At 6'7, 205.    He did the majority of his work inside 18 feet.    Deadly from the baseline, deadly from the mid post.    I have nothing but respect for him.     What position would he play TODAY?    Who would be guarding him TODAY?    How would his skill set translate in TODAY's game?   He couldn't play SG and he is small for a modern SF.   He rarely shot the 3.     

When healthy, King was an effen stud. Hell, he was an effen stud even when he was gimpy! If DeMarr DeRozan can average 27 points (despite shooting .266 from 3), if Jimmy Butler can be an All-Star as barely a 30% shooter from downtown and if Paul George is considered a "superstar," Bernard King would have been just dandy in today's NBA.

In addition to being supremely talented, King was a hard worker who almost surely would have adapted his game to do whatever he needed to do to be great. I see no reason why he couldn't have become an outstanding 3-point shooter if that's what the game called for. But even if the 3 wasn't a big part of his game ... again ... see "DeRozan, DeMarr."

I'd be thrilled if Cain turns out to be 33% the player that King was.

[Loose Cannon]

You're missing the joke.

OK Then.  I think I'll just mosey on down.  Thanks

[DCHoopster]

When healthy, King was an effen stud. Hell, he was an effen stud even when he was gimpy! If DeMarr DeRozan can average 27 points (despite shooting .266 from 3), if Jimmy Butler can be an All-Star as barely a 30% shooter from downtown and if Paul George is considered a "superstar," Bernard King would have been just dandy in today's NBA.

In addition to being supremely talented, King was a hard worker who almost surely would have adapted his game to do whatever he needed to do to be great. I see no reason why he couldn't have become an outstanding 3-point shooter if that's what the game called for. But even if the 3 wasn't a big part of his game ... again ... see "DeRozan, DeMarr."

I'd be thrilled if Cain turns out to be 33% the player that King was.

MU82, you are exactly right.  I do not care when Bernard played, he can play in any of the last 5 decades and be a star.  Quickest jump shot I have ever seen.  I suppose  Allen Iverson could not play now, he was not a good 3 point shooter either.  But even quicker to the hoop then Bernard, but totally unstoppable in his prime.  Saw him score 50 against the Bucks in 3 quarters.  Fantastic talent, but nether shot the 3.  In this discussion,  the Big O could not play now.  Did not
shot the 3 either, but the strongest 2 guard I have ever seen.

[Lennys Tap]

In this discussion,  the Big O could not play now.  Did not
shot the 3 either, but the strongest 2 guard I have ever seen.

Oscar was not a 2 guard. He was a point guard, one of the 2 best (with Magic) to ever play the position.

[Nukem2]

Oscar was not a 2 guard. He was a point guard, one of the 2 best (with Magic) to ever play the position.

Actually, Oscar was the greatest combo guard of all time.  He did it all.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/894965561439862784

The theme of "John has a college ready body" seems to be repeating

[WarriorFan]

Bernard King was a player who's skill wouldn't translate today. He,   Adrian Dantley, and Mark Agguire are great scorers from that era who would struggle in today's NBA. Simply not tall enough, not quick enough, and didn't play defense.
   I watch the videos of Cain and think Sean Elliot with more range.   

Bernard King would get 20 (pre injury) in today's NBA.
AD... don't know, probably agree he's too small for today's version.
Aguirre - what's the difference between Jae Crowder and Mark Aguirre?  That's exactly what Aguirre's game would be in today's NBA.  Not bad in my book. I think their games are very similar.  Aguirre was a better shooter/scorer (especially on a bad team) but physically and style-wise very similar.
Any of those guys could develop a 3 point shot as well... in their era it wasn't needed.  It was a bad shot back then.

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

I'm excited to have this Bernard King guy, along with the other Marquette newcomers.   

[Herman Cain]

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/894965561439862784

The theme of "John has a college ready body" seems to be repeating

Theo is the guy we have been needing for a long time . Can't wait to see him in Big East action against guys like  Angel Delgado etc

[brewcity77]

Theo is the guy we have been needing for a long time . Can't wait to see him in Big East action against guys like  Angel Delgado etc

Nothing against Theo, but I think Angel Delgado would/will destroy him. Probably a good chance Delgado gets some All-American recognition this year. He's one of the best centers in the country and already wreaked havoc on the league. No reason to expect he wouldn't do the same again. I know Theo has that "college-ready body", but Angel has a "pro-ready body" who just hasn't gone yet.

[We R Final Four]

And no more swaggyDu to smack talk back at Angel. That has been fun to watch last few years.

[fjm]

And no more swaggyDu to smack talk back at Angel. That has been fun to watch last few years.

I'm sure Rowsey will have all the smack talk this team needs this year covered.