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Author Topic: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!  (Read 6071 times)

TAMU, Knower of Ball

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 10:20:06 PM »
Champions of Statistics!
Or is that....
Statistically, Champions!

Either way, it was fun to watch.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 11:16:13 PM »
Also should be a reminder to the whiners this coming year...'ooooh, he's down from last year!!'

An historic, absolutely amazing accomplishment by Markus
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2017, 09:40:32 AM »
Also should be a reminder to the whiners this coming year...'ooooh, he's down from last year!!'

An historic, absolutely amazing accomplishment by Markus

Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2017, 10:16:04 AM »
Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.

Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 10:29:29 AM »
Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.

Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2017, 10:33:45 AM »
Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2017, 10:35:54 AM »
Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2017, 10:41:53 AM »
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.


Matt Heldt is taking too many no-footers instead of passing out to him.

He's losing quickness.

He's too old.

His neck has gotten thinner.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 11:13:23 AM »
He's not 17 anymore.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 11:29:07 AM »
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.

You'd be wrong. In the past 5 seasons, there have been 11 qualifying players to shoot over 50% from three that had eligibility remaining. Of those, Nate Buss (40.8% in 2015), Brandon Pye (40.5% in 2015), Micah Mason (44.5% in 2015), and James McGee (41.8% in 2016) were the only ones to eclipse 40% in the following season.

7/11 (63.6%) players that broke 50% failed to even break 40% the next year, and only two broke 41% with none reaching 45%. Maybe Markus will break that trend, but anything over 40% should be celebrated.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 11:32:34 AM »
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 11:34:51 AM »
You'd be wrong. In the past 5 seasons, there have been 11 qualifying players to shoot over 50% from three that had eligibility remaining. Of those, Nate Buss (40.8% in 2015), Brandon Pye (40.5% in 2015), Micah Mason (44.5% in 2015), and James McGee (41.8% in 2016) were the only ones to eclipse 40% in the following season.

7/11 (63.6%) players that broke 50% failed to even break 40% the next year, and only two broke 41% with none reaching 45%. Maybe Markus will break that trend, but anything over 40% should be celebrated.

What sort of volume did those players shoot in their over 50% season vs. their season(s) to follow? 

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 11:42:08 AM »
What sort of volume did those players shoot in their over 50% season vs. their season(s) to follow?

Every one of the eleven players increased their attempts in the subsequent season. I would anticipate Markus will do the same.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 12:13:31 PM »
Head games, substitution patterns, Wojo doesn't know how to use him, is ruining his confidence.   Takes him out too fast, won't let him play through mistakes, is/isn't running the offense through him.....
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 12:28:12 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 12:50:05 PM »
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 01:45:34 PM »
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.


Wojo sucks.

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 01:56:07 PM »
Wojo sucks.

There will also be a Dominic James comparison thrown in there as well.


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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 02:11:07 PM »
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 02:40:01 PM »
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

Well....one of those was a team award.
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 02:45:28 PM »
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 03:02:56 PM »
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 03:24:38 PM »
It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...

How do you figure? I think that shooting lower percentages from shots worth more points would definitely mean a W in not just one game but also a guaranteed final four
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2017, 04:24:39 PM »
It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...

Exactly. It's a false equivalent.  I mean, wouldn't we all prefer world peace to winning a national championship?

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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2017, 07:30:17 PM »
Exactly. It's a false equivalent.  I mean, wouldn't we all prefer world peace to winning a national championship?
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 07:45:04 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 07:52:27 PM »




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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2017, 07:54:23 PM »
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Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2017, 08:07:55 AM »
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.

nm, beaten to the punch.
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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2017, 08:11:57 AM »
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

Sure would.  Who exactly is offering the trade?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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