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Author Topic: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?  (Read 55597 times)

Tugg Speedman

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Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« on: June 12, 2017, 10:52:35 PM »
Just asking

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 10:57:01 PM »
They didn't have Willie Wampum as a mascot.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 11:00:14 PM »
The San Pablo Lytton Casino didn't build them a new arena.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 11:06:03 PM »
They didn't have Willie Wampum as a mascot.

Yes they had Native American logos every bit resembling Willie Wampum during their history that includes a Philadelphia Warriors.  Charicature logo.

Golden State also used a headdress as a logo early on.

They kept name but shifted away from the Native American imagery and fans moved. Same thing could easily happen with MU as the Golden State Warriors and their fans have proven.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 11:19:06 PM »
The San Pablo Lytton Casino didn't build them a new arena.

Bingo.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 11:31:18 PM »
It's because Native Americans didn't ask Golden State to stop using the name like they did the Jesuitsvwho run Marquette. Plus, Marquette is an institution of higher learning, held to a higher standard in society, Golden State a rotating cast of mercenaries put together solely for entertainment and profit.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 11:34:04 PM »
Yes they had Native American logos every bit resembling Willie Wampum during their history that includes a Philadelphia Warriors.  Charicature logo.

Golden State also used a headdress as a logo early on.

They kept name but shifted away from the Native American imagery and fans moved. Same thing could easily happen with MU as the Golden State Warriors and their fans have proven.

The key was when. They moved away from native american imagery in the late 60s. By the time people were becoming aware of it as an issue, many had forgotten the cartoony native american logo used back in Philadelphia.

I agree that Marquette could have done something similar. Would have been better to acknowledge the offensive past, apologize for it, and make a concentrated effort to be respectful effort moving forward. I've seen it work at other schools, Central Michigan does a great job of this with their fans.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2017, 11:37:18 PM »
Just asking

Wah, wah, wah.

It is about time MU fans man up on this subject.

I loved the Warrior nickname and still call them that ofttimes. But it ain't coming back, so quit whining.

And the answer is very simple to find if you'd stop crying long enough to do so.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 12:17:58 AM »
It would not be summer without the annual Warrior debate. This one has a slightly different twist, but it's the same argument in a new package.

It aint happening. No way. No how. There's pretty close to as many people who know us as the Golden Eagles as the Warriors.

While I will always be a Warrior, not a Furry Bird or a Hilltopper, we are a dying breed. The debate is over and we lost.

Period.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 12:21:17 AM »
It should be the Warriors.

But at least give us the Hilltoppers. Or the Jumping Jesuits.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 01:54:09 AM »
Bring Back Willie!
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 06:11:35 AM »
The key was when. They moved away from native american imagery in the late 60s. By the time people were becoming aware of it as an issue, many had forgotten the cartoony native american logo used back in Philadelphia.

I agree that Marquette could have done something similar. Would have been better to acknowledge the offensive past, apologize for it, and make a concentrated effort to be respectful effort moving forward. I've seen it work at other schools, Central Michigan does a great job of this with their fans.

Superbly stated as usual, TAMU.

I have trouble saying "Golden Eagles." I don't hate the name, but it's so uninspiring.

Although I still occasionally say "Warriors," I totally understand all that went into the name change and I am opposed to Indian mascots for sports teams.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2017, 06:40:29 AM »
Hilltoppers>Warriors

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2017, 07:41:50 AM »
It isn't going to change, so I just call our team the Warriors, enjoy when I hear broadcasters occasionally use it too, and let the current nickname go in one ear and out the other.

It is what it is....


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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2017, 08:09:54 AM »
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2017, 08:56:38 AM »
Hilltoppers>Warriors

No.

But it isn't a bad consolation prize.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2017, 09:14:23 AM »
The animosity won't change until us old folks die.

Perhaps we could of called them the Hittite Warriors. Since the Israelites slew them all and there is no one left to offend

Folks from my day would have been OK with the Hilltoppers or Avalanche.

Pissed me off so much I stopped donating for 5 years.


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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2017, 09:19:08 AM »
I hate myself for even participating in the mascot/name vote debacle, but...

Warriors > Jumping Jesuits > Hilltoppers/Golden Avalanche is a matter of pref (I voted for Golden Avalanche) > not being able to shake a bout of sinus congestion > Gold > Golden Eagles

Most days I think the kitsch of the Gold and bricky and all that would be preferable over the yawn inducing chicken hawk. But how everything went down was such a travesty that it was unsalvageable.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2017, 09:22:24 AM »


I'm calling PETA! That'a animal abuse at its extreme. In fact I'm so upset the SKIN on my face is turning RED.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2017, 09:24:16 AM »
I'm calling PETA! That'a animal abuse at its extreme. In fact I'm so upset the SKIN on my face is turning RED.

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« Last Edit: June 13, 2017, 09:26:57 AM by warriorchick »
Have some patience, FFS.

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No animals were harmed in the making of this GIF.






....but, but he identifies as a dead horse.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2017, 09:36:47 AM »
If he can be Pancho, why can't I be Tyrone?

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2017, 10:19:46 AM »
It's all pointless, but I maintain the best solution is to not have a mascot. We Are Marquette.

If the pundits want to call us Marquette, or Warriors, or Golden Eagles, who cares? Just go with Marquette. It's what all the marketing already does anyway. The only thing we'd lose is an oversized walking bird at the games.
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