Trevon Bluiett will NOT return to Xavier

[The Thing]

Oh...wait a minute...

[Newsdreams]

Lol

[tower912]

Funny.  Bigger picture, the Big  East isn't getting easier.

[muguru]

Funny.  Bigger picture, the Big  East isn't getting easier.

Exactly...I will just never understand those that "root" for other BE teams to be good. I've said it a million times...that just makes things harder for MU. Let's say for example, Bluiett and Delgado both left...and let's assume that because of those decisions, MU then went 4-0 against both those teams..Now let's say(for argument's sake that because they are back, MU goes 0-4 against them..How in the world is a "stronger" BE better for MU?? Talk all you want about it helping the RPI etc, I say BS. Because the bottom line is..win enough games in the BE and you are IN every single year, and no matter what, teams losing really good players, gives MU a better chance of winning more games. That's pretty self explanatory I would have thought.

It's like being a Packers fan and wanting the Bears, Lions and Viqueens to be better because it's "good for the divison". Total nonsense.

[jesmu84]

Exactly...I will just never understand those that "root" for other BE teams to be good. I've said it a million times...that just makes things harder for MU. Let's say for example, Bluiett and Delgado both left...and let's assume that because of those decisions, MU then went 4-0 against both those teams..Now let's say(for argument's sake that because they are back, MU goes 0-4 against them..How in the world is a "stronger" BE better for MU?? Talk all you want about it helping the RPI etc, I say BS. Because the bottom line is..win enough games in the BE and you are IN every single year, and no matter what, teams losing really good players, gives MU a better chance of winning more games. That's pretty self explanatory I would have thought.

It's like being a Packers fan and wanting the Bears, Lions and Viqueens to be better because it's "good for the divison". Total nonsense.

HORRIBLE comparison

[muguru]

HORRIBLE comparison

It's the same thing...pro game or not...it's rooting for the competition.

[Galway Eagle]

It's the same thing...pro game or not...it's rooting for the competition.

Except when the competition being good directly influences your chances of being good then it is no longer the same thing

[warriorchick]

I want all of the Big East Teams to be incredibly good...but at the same time, slightly worse than Marquette.

In a perfect world we would be ranked #1, and there would be a 9-way tie for second among the rest of the conference.

[Jay Bee]

It's the same thing...pro game or not...it's rooting for the competition.

Wrong again...

[muguru]

Wrong again...

Bullsh*t...It is the SAME damn thing...It's rooting for your opponents to be good so it can "make you better". Not buying it..I played sports and I NEVER wanted the rest of the conference to be good. In fact, I hated every other conference member. Them winning did me(us) zero good. Explain to me how it's wrong mr arrogance.

[naginiF]

Exactly...I will just never understand those that "root" for other BE teams to be good. I've said it a million times...that just makes things harder for MU. Let's say for example, Bluiett and Delgado both left...and let's assume that because of those decisions, MU then went 4-0 against both those teams..Now let's say(for argument's sake that because they are back, MU goes 0-4 against them..How in the world is a "stronger" BE better for MU?? Talk all you want about it helping the RPI etc, I say BS. Because the bottom line is..win enough games in the BE and you are IN every single year, and no matter what, teams losing really good players, gives MU a better chance of winning more games. That's pretty self explanatory I would have thought.

It's like being a Packers fan and wanting the Bears, Lions and Viqueens to be better because it's "good for the divison". Total nonsense.

Following that logic we should move to the MVC and run the table every year.  You bitch when we are not better than you think we should be and you bitch when our conference provides top notch competition. 

WOW

[Marcus92]

We didn't go 0-4 against Seton Hall and Xavier this past season. We went 3-2. Our 10-8 record in the 3rd toughest conference in the country played a huge role in making the NCAA tournament.

Plus, if we played in a conference equivalent to the WCC, Marquette wouldn't get the national exposure it does. It would be harder to attract the same level of recruits. We wouldn't make the same money we get from the Big East's deal with Fox. And we wouldn't get the NCAA payouts from being in the Big East.

A strong conference is good for MU in every regard.

[Skitch]

I bet 27-6 Illinois State wished their conference was better when they were playing in the NIT

[lurch91]

It's the same thing...pro game or not...it's rooting for the competition.

Sorry, but it's like you don't know how the NFL Playoff system works in comparison to the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament selection process......   

[muguru]

Someone ask the Zags if their poor conference hurt them..or if it has hurt them for the past 17 years or so..

[Galway Eagle]

Bullsh*t...It is the SAME damn thing...It's rooting for your opponents to be good so it can "make you better". Not buying it..I played sports and I NEVER wanted the rest of the conference to be good. In fact, I hated every other conference member. Them winning did me(us) zero good. Explain to me how it's wrong mr arrogance.

I'm sure that intramurals and that year of varsity of athletics is the same as high major D1 athletics

[muguru]

Sorry, but it's like you don't know how the NFL Playoff system works in comparison to the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament selection process......   

I absolutely do..i also know in the NCAA's..conferences don't get bids..teams do. If the rest of the BE was down..and MU was going 13-5, 14-4 every year..i'll tell you what..i could care less what the rest of the BE teams RPI's were..records like that..MU would be lock city..every year.

[muguru]

We didn't go 0-4 against Seton Hall and Xavier this past season. We went 3-2. Our 10-8 record in the 3rd toughest conference in the country played a huge role in making the NCAA tournament.

Plus, if we played in a conference equivalent to the WCC, Marquette wouldn't get the national exposure it does. It would be harder to attract the same level of recruits. We wouldn't make the same money we get from the Big East's deal with Fox. And we wouldn't get the NCAA payouts from being in the Big East.

A strong conference is good for MU in every regard.

Would MU have gotten in at 12-6 in a little worse BE? You know the answer to that. The idea is NOT to go 10-8, 9-9 and just sneak in every year..ideally you'd like MU to get to the level Nova is at..but that is seemingly quite a ways off yet..so for now, with where they are at..a bit of a lessor BE would help MU.

[Galway Eagle]

I absolutely do..i also know in the NCAA's..conferences don't get bids..teams do. If the rest of the BE was down..and MU was going 13-5, 14-4 every year..i'll tell you what..i could care less what the rest of the BE teams RPI's were..records like that..MU would be lock city..every year.

Someone else please explain the way shared NCAA tournament credits work to this fool. If the conference as a whole is better we get paid more allowing for better facilities, better recruiting budget, game experience and more.

[muguru]

Someone else please explain the way shared NCAA tournament credits work to this fool. If the conference as a whole is better we get paid more allowing for better facilities, better recruiting budget, game experience and more.

Umm im well aware of how it works dipcrap..so it's about the money to everyone? Let's see...pretty sure MU has a top notch facility already in the AL..are moving into a state of the art arena next season..have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the nation already..so..if I'm following your logic..a better BE..even if it means MU loses too many games to get into the NCAAS themselves..is good for MU anyway..we can ride the coat tails of the other BE schools? Great..typical of your generations mentality..let's award everyone a ribbon!

[Jay Bee]

Bullsh*t...It is the SAME damn thing...It's rooting for your opponents to be good so it can "make you better". Not buying it..I played sports and I NEVER wanted the rest of the conference to be good. In fact, I hated every other conference member. Them winning did me(us) zero good. Explain to me how it's wrong mr arrogance.

Absolutely not. It's not the same damn thing or even close. You win the most in your conference in the NBA and you're all good.

In the NCAA, you can be in a conference that sucks and win tons of games and still not be regarded as good, as be punished for it. There's no, "oh but you finished in X place" like the NBA.

That how you're dead wrong, dumbo.

[Marcus92]

Would MU have gotten in at 12-6 in a little worse BE? You know the answer to that. The idea is NOT to go 10-8, 9-9 and just sneak in every year..ideally you'd like MU to get to the level Nova is at..but that is seemingly quite a ways off yet..so for now, with where they are at..a bit of a lessor BE would help MU.

You're talking about a conference like the A10. Which Xavier and Butler left for the Big East. Or the MVC. Which Creighton left for the Big East. All for good reason.

The goal isn't to go 9-9 or 10-8 and just make the tournament. That's only a step on the way to making Marquette a perennial national program. Wojo's gotten us back to the NCAAs in just 3 seasons — matching Tom Crean and exceeding Kevin O'Neill. The future looks even brighter.

Villanova is a much better model for MU to follow. They've won two national titles — two more than Gonzaga. And as I mentioned before, lesser conferences like the A10 or the WCC don't come close to the Big East when it comes to national exposure and revenue.

[Lennys Tap]

Following that logic we should move to the MVC and run the table every year.  You bitch when we are not better than you think we should be and you bitch when our conference provides top notch competition. 

WOW

How can someone who thinks we could "move to the MVC and run the table every year" say WOW to anyone? Guess you've never heard of Wichita State.

[muguru]

Absolutely not. It's not the same damn thing or even close. You win the most in your conference in the NBA and you're all good.

In the NCAA, you can be in a conference that sucks and win tons of games and still not be regarded as good, as be punished for it. There's no, "oh but you finished in X place" like the NBA.

That how you're dead wrong, dumbo.

So..Gonzaga who plays in a sh*t conference every year..has been to what 18 straight NCAA's now? Has had a couple of #1 seeds, and played for a national championship all of that playing in a terrible conference..so do you think they would trade being in say..the ACC and finishing in the lower half most years and making the tourney periodically..or do you think they like being the superior team in the WCC every year? Ask Mark Few..yeah I know what he would say..

[Jockey]

Exactly...I will just never understand those that "root" for other BE teams to be good. I've said it a million times...that just makes things harder for MU. Let's say for example, Bluiett and Delgado both left...and let's assume that because of those decisions, MU then went 4-0 against both those teams..Now let's say(for argument's sake that because they are back, MU goes 0-4 against them..How in the world is a "stronger" BE better for MU??

I hate to use common sense on such a silly argument, but......

If MU goes 0-4 against these two teams with Bluett and Delgado, then we aren't very good and don't deserve to be in the Tournament.

Sounds like you'd be happy to play 30 cupcakes - going 30-0 - so you can brag about how good MU is.

[MU82]

Ladies and gentlemen, guru is beyond help on this issue.

Please stop trying to use "facts" and "logic" with him.

He wants Marquette to go 18-0 in the BE every year, therefore we never need decent conference opponents. Don't the rest of y'all get it?

[wadesworld]

Ladies and gentlemen, guru is beyond help on this issue.

Please stop trying to use "facts" and "logic" with him.

He wants Marquette to go 18-0 in the BE every year, therefore we never need decent conference opponents. Don't the rest of y'all get it?

Right.  Finally someone gets it.  You can't argue with stupid.

[brewcity77]

A few cupcakes are fun. An 18 game home schedule of dog crap is not fun, it's boring. A good conference makes for a better product when I buy tickets. Yes, I want us to win every game, but if Marquette plays in a piss poor conference with no threat of a loss, I may as well go play Madden Dynasty mode on easy. It's boring as hell.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

How can someone who thinks we could "move to the MVC and run the table every year" say WOW to anyone? Guess you've never heard of Wichita State.

They're leaving the MVC this year. Heading to the American. We quite literally could run the table in the MVC next season and probably the next few seasons. They might have one top 100 team in the entire conference next season....and they will barely be top 100 if they are.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's the same thing...pro game or not...it's rooting for the competition.

.....

Except in the pro game, all that matters is your winning %. If you finish with a better win loss record than the rest of your division you are in the playoffs, no questions asked.

In college, you have to build a resume of quality wins that will then be judged by a group of very subjective humans. A group that has consistently preached about the importance of strength of schedule to their decision.

You keep complaining about Marquette not being "elite" anymore. In today's game, you become elite by consistently beating other elites. You've brought up Gonzaga a lot (literally the only team in the history of college basketball to pull off what you seem to envision for Marquette). I don't think most would categorize them as an elite program. They might get some post-champsionship love for a little bit. But before the tournament started, all anyone could talk about was how overrated Gonzaga was and how they were going to lose by the Sweet 16. Gonzaga would also sell their collective left nut if it meant they could join the PAC 12 or the Big East with a magic teleporter.

[Eldon]

Bullsh*t...It is the SAME damn thing...It's rooting for your opponents to be good so it can "make you better". Not buying it..I played sports and I NEVER wanted the rest of the conference to be good. In fact, I hated every other conference member. Them winning did me(us) zero good. Explain to me how it's wrong mr arrogance.

College bball is different:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rating_Percentage_Index

"the SOS accounts for 75% of the RPI calculation"

[muguru]

Let me put this a different way...for those of you that obviously wanted to take what I said, and spin it to meet your own agenda. First off, someone find for me where I said ANYTHING about wanting all the teams in the conference to be dog crap?? I NEVER said that. My point was...I know many are glad that Delgado and Bluiett are coming back..because it makes SH and X better. I don't disagree with that. However, without them, it doesn;t mean either team is GARBAGE, does it??? Nope, it just makes both not quite as good. Very similar to Creighton losing Watson this past year and X losing Sumner. Still formidable, but not as good without them. Which actually helps make my point quite nicely..MU swept Creighton and X this last year...That was 4 of their conference wins right there..does anyone think they go 4-0 against them, if Sumner/Watson are healthy?? Maybe, but I would doubt it. So, guess what people, without those 4 wins, MU isn't dancing. Heck, if they even split those games, they aren't dancing.

Not every team is going to be DePaul, nor do I want them to be, but what is wrong with being able to catch a few breaks along the way...?? Like MU did in playing Xavier and Creighton without their starting PG's?? No different then playing a Delgado less SH, this next year, or a Bluiett less Xavier. Heck, like last year it could mean the difference between making the dance, or not making the dance.

Bottom line is, whether you are in a really good conference, or a crap conference(like Gonzaga), and you win enough games, you get in..Winning is always easier if other teams aren't QUITE as good as they once were.

[blikemike2]

Can't disagree with your last post guru, I don't think MU dances last year without those injuries. With that being said you do want a strong conference for recruiting purposes etc....

[MUDPT]

Which national writer did paint touches get an argument with over our schedule? Basically arguing that our record wasn't as good because we played X and Creighton without their stars? As if MU has control over their conference schedule and other teams injuries. None of those games were close either.

[muwarrior69]

I want all of the Big East Teams to be incredibly good...but at the same time, slightly worse than Marquette.

In a perfect world we would be ranked #1, and there would be a 9-way tie for second among the rest of the conference.

In a perfect world we would be National Champs and the best basketball team  every year; but then again after a little while I don't think winning all the time would be that much fun.

[Galway Eagle]

Umm im well aware of how it works dipcrap..so it's about the money to everyone? Let's see...pretty sure MU has a top notch facility already in the AL..are moving into a state of the art arena next season..have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the nation already..so..if I'm following your logic..a better BE..even if it means MU loses too many games to get into the NCAAS themselves..is good for MU anyway..we can ride the coat tails of the other BE schools? Great..typical of your generations mentality..let's award everyone a ribbon!

You're right and you seem to enjoy those thins. Now out of curiosity have you actually sat and thought how we got all that? Are you so naive to think if we were the kings of the horizon that we'd have all those things? And the Al is quickly becoming less and less top notch, sure it was state of the art 12(?) years ago but so was the standard black and white iPod and the razor phone... nobody's claiming those are top notch anymore.

You're jumping to conclusions about my "even if it mean MU loses too many games" your line of thinking is short sited it's very 'water it down for this year so we make it' my line of thinking allows us to build up consistent finances, recruit well, be a program that gets noticed by the casual observer.

You're an idiot if you think I'm insinuating that everyone gets a trophy. We've had this conversation, either get it through your thick skull or I have to quote an old adage of "you can't fix stupid"

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

In a perfect world we would be National Champs and the best basketball team  every year; but then again after a little while I don't think winning all the time would be that much fun.

So u didnt enjoy the run in the first part of the 70s??!!!

[warriorchick]

In a perfect world we would be National Champs and the best basketball team  every year; but then again after a little while I don't think winning all the time would be that much fun.

If the rest of the conference is in a tie for second, that means that all of our conference games would be 1-2 match ups, and and that would be pretty darn exciting to watch, and don't you think?

[naginiF]

How can someone who thinks we could "move to the MVC and run the table every year" say WOW to anyone? Guess you've never heard of Wichita State.

You may want to check which conference Wichita State is in next year...........i'm sticking with my 'WOW'

[Spotcheck Billy]

Bottom line is, whether you are in a really good conference, or a crap conference(like Gonzaga), and you win enough games, you get in..Winning is always easier if other teams aren't QUITE as good as they once were.

Gonzaga's tourney streak isn't from them beating up on the WCC so much as it is scheduling so many OOC games with elite schools. Granted, they get the automatic qualifier every year because their conference is weak.

[onepost]

Umm im well aware of how it works dipcrap..so it's about the money to everyone? Let's see...pretty sure MU has a top notch facility already in the AL..are moving into a state of the art arena next season..have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the nation already..so..if I'm following your logic..a better BE..even if it means MU loses too many games to get into the NCAAS themselves..is good for MU anyway..we can ride the coat tails of the other BE schools? Great..typical of your generations mentality..let's award everyone a ribbon!

Dude.....chill the unnatural carnal knowledge out.

[Schmidtyfactor]

if only we just fast forward to the MUScoop fight scene....

https://youtu.be/ipsPgNEmAXI

[Benny B]

It's like being a Packers fan and wanting the Bears, Lions and Viqueens to be better because it's "good for the divison". Total nonsense.

Ah yes.... the Georgetown, DePaul and St. John's of the NFC North.

I'm now imagining the futility of those three in a division with Villanova. 

[MUMountin]

Bottom line is, whether you are in a really good conference, or a crap conference(like Gonzaga), and you win enough games, you get in..

Tell that to Illinois State.

[tower912]

Tell that to Illinois State.

But at least they can say they were the second best team in their conference.

[MU82]

Tell that to Illinois State.

Indeed, there are a lot more Illinois States out there than there are Gonzagas.

guru finally articulated something reasonable in his last post. I wouldn't have been the least bit upset had Delgado and Bluiett left.

[bilsu]

Exactly...I will just never understand those that "root" for other BE teams to be good. I've said it a million times...that just makes things harder for MU. Let's say for example, Bluiett and Delgado both left...and let's assume that because of those decisions, MU then went 4-0 against both those teams..Now let's say(for argument's sake that because they are back, MU goes 0-4 against them..How in the world is a "stronger" BE better for MU?? Talk all you want about it helping the RPI etc, I say BS. Because the bottom line is..win enough games in the BE and you are IN every single year, and no matter what, teams losing really good players, gives MU a better chance of winning more games. That's pretty self explanatory I would have thought.

It's like being a Packers fan and wanting the Bears, Lions and Viqueens to be better because it's "good for the divison". Total nonsense.

First I am a Marquette fan.
Second I am a Big East fan.
MU belonging to one of the best conferences is important to me as an MU fan.
In my book the bragging rights goes to the conference with the most teams advancing the farthest in the NCAA tournament.
Last year was not a good year for the Big East as far as NCAA tournament results.

[GoldenDieners32]

BE will be tough again like always

[GooooMarquette]

Well this thread took an interesting turn.....

Long live Scoop!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

[barfolomew]

Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

Dang!
I was hoping it would be the other way around, so we could say they'll be sans Moritz.

[We R Final Four]

Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

That's good--because we didn't (probably still wouldn't) have an answer for Wilson.

[Mr. Nielsen]

First I am a Marquette fan.
Second I am a Big East fan.
MU belonging to one of the best conferences is important to me as an MU fan.
In my book the bragging rights goes to the conference with the most teams advancing the farthest in the NCAA tournament.
Last year was not a good year for the Big East as far as NCAA tournament results.

The Big East sent last year more than one school to the 2nd weekend of the NCAA Tournament for the first time since the new format of the league..Xavier  (Elite 8)  and Butler  (Sweet 16) I wouldn't think that is bad. Sure, totally stink Villanova lost in round 2.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

I know Wagner was really good for Michigan last year, but I must have seen all of his worst games because I never saw a game where he played well.

[Marcus92]

The Big East earned 13 NCAA tournament units in 2017: 4 from Xavier, 3 from Butler, 2 from Villanova, and 1 each from Creighton, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall. That's one more unit than the conference earned in 2016.

The 13 units should be worth roughly $3.4 million per year for the next 6 years, to be split between the conference's 10 teams (the conference doesn't disclose its distribution formula).

Here's how some other conferences compare:

18 units ACC (15 schools)
16 units SEC (14 schools)
15 units Big 12 (10 schools)
15 units Big Ten (14 schools)
14 units Pac-12 (12 schools)
7 units WCC (10 schools)
4 units A10 (14 schools)
3 units American (11 schools)
3 units MVC (10 schools)

In other words, the Big East earned more tournament units per school than any other conference, except for the Big 12. We're more than holding our own.

http://herosports.com/ncaa-tournament/how-much-money-ncaa-tournament-earned-conference-2017-basketball-fund-a7a7

[GooooMarquette]

Dang!
I was hoping it would be the other way around, so we could say they'll be sans Moritz.

 

[bilsu]

The Big East earned 13 NCAA tournament units in 2017: 4 from Xavier, 3 from Butler, 2 from Villanova, and 1 each from Creighton, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall. That's one more unit than the conference earned in 2016.

The 13 units should be worth roughly $3.4 million per year for the next 6 years, to be split between the conference's 10 teams (the conference doesn't disclose its distribution formula).

Here's how some other conferences compare:

18 units ACC (15 schools)
16 units SEC (14 schools)
15 units Big 12 (10 schools)
15 units Big Ten (14 schools)
14 units Pac-12 (12 schools)
7 units WCC (10 schools)
4 units A10 (14 schools)
3 units American (11 schools)
3 units MVC (10 schools)

In other words, the Big East earned more tournament units per school than any other conference, except for the Big 12. We're more than holding our own.

http://herosports.com/ncaa-tournament/how-much-money-ncaa-tournament-earned-conference-2017-basketball-fund-a7a7

You are talking money and I am talking general basketball fan's perception. According to this the conference made more money last year than the year before. However, the year before Villanova won the title and that help the perception of the Big East significantly more than the Big East getting 7 bids, which included 4 first round losses.

[bradley center bat]

ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.

[Golden Avalanche]

ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.

Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.

[Marcus92]

Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?

[Jay Bee]

Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?

If you have it, do ppl know it not know?

I like having the milly, but cats ain't know. #LowkeyBaller

[brewcity77]

Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[naginiF]

Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?

Depends on what side of the fence you're currently on - if you have more than $1M you would prefer people think you have $1M.  If you have less you want the $.

It's the old line when someone brings a young date to a dinner party and he/she asks the icebreaker "what would you do if you had $1M?"........A: "Most of us would wonder were the rest of their f'n money went"

[bilsu]

ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.

But they won the title.
Also the Big East is the power 6 conference that is looked down upon, because they do not have football. That makes the NCAA tournament more important to them than the other conferences.

[Herman Cain]

Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference. 

[bilsu]

Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference.

+1

[Marcus92]

Among media and basketball fans, I think the perception and reality is that the Big East is one of the best basketball conferences in the country.

Obviously, Villanova winning it all a year ago demanded attention. So did being ranked one of the top 3 toughest conferences for the third straight year. So did sending 7 of 10 teams to the tournament this season.

Events and headlines like those won't happen every single year. My broader point is that the Big East conference is highly successful by virtually any measure — on the court, financially, and in the eyes of the sports world. We're part of the Gavitt Games (Big Ten-Big East, split 8-8 over the past two years). Nova will once again open the season as a consensus Top 10 team. References to the "old Big East" or "new Big East" have dropped off. It's starting to establish its own unique identity.

I keep up with national college basketball writers and blogs for other teams and conferences. You may feel like the Big East is inferior to the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, et al — but I don't see it.

[jesmu84]

Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference.

Man... guru is gonna be pissed at you

[Mr. Nielsen]

Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.

I think that comes from the left.

[brewcity77]

I think that comes from the left.

Stick to the politics board with this please.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Stick to the politics board with this please.

You want the strength of leagues by fan viewpoints true or false on the politics board. 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

You want the strength of leagues by fan viewpoints true or false on the politics board. 

Huh?

[Mr. Nielsen]

Huh?

Read the past post, you will get it. Otherwise no big deal.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I think that comes from the left.

Either a brilliantly satirical post, or a sadly ironic one...I just don't know which.

[brewcity77]

Huh?

+1

GA made a comment about perception and reality, mupanther politicized it. That's about all I see going on.

[mu_hilltopper]

Move on, people.