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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2017, 10:15:33 PM »
As would a unicorn pooping rainbows out its a$$. Which is more likely to happen than O'Neill ever joining Wojo's staff.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2017, 10:52:22 AM »
My thoughts:
1. He saved the MU Men's Basketball Program
2. Average, at best, basketball coach.
3. Someone I very much enjoyed spending time with over the years, especially after games
4. Probably stayed the proper length time at MU, based off his personality.
5. Someone I still hope knocks out of the park
6. He save the MU Men's Basketball Program

A flawed man in many ways, but a kind heart as well. In recent years he showed some real class and compassion for a family member and that will not be forgotten.

Excellent points. Saw enough of his games to know he was an average coach and an excellent recruiter.

To those of you who take umbrage with the saved MU's program, he did! Here is the chronology:

1) Al created the world as we know it beginning in 1964. He created the program as we know it today.

2) Quentin Quade, the Administration and Hank almost destroyed it in the 1980s.

3) KO saved it after years of neglect.

4) The Hillbilly got us back to national prominence and put us in a position where we could hire Coach Wojo.

5) Coach Wojo will win the second through who knows national title for us.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2017, 05:20:54 PM »
   "and Hank almost destroyed it in the 1980s." ? 

   i am all ears.  my understanding was, al was "the man", but hank ran the practices.  if true, that had to have carried some cred going forward.  hank's overall record as a college coach was 236-100 and 126-50 including a visit to the sweet 16

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2017, 07:59:05 PM »
   "and Hank almost destroyed it in the 1980s." ? 

   i am all ears.  my understanding was, al was "the man", but hank ran the practices.  if true, that had to have carried some cred going forward.  hank's overall record as a college coach was 236-100 and 126-50 including a visit to the sweet 16
I didn't like the wsy he coached whike I was there '79-'83 and he was booed a lot by students. I think he just was not good with team chemistry during games.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2017, 08:03:39 PM »
Ya butt, no one rolled up a game program in his hands better dan Hank, ai na?
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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2017, 08:43:18 PM »
Ya butt, no one rolled up a game program in his hands better dan Hank, ai na?
Now dat's fooking tru

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2017, 09:00:34 PM »
Hanks was one of the brightest minds in terms of strategy and with breaking down a game.  John effin Wooden used to call him for advice.  Al owes a ton to Hank. And vice verse.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2017, 09:02:04 PM »
Real

Politely disagree. Al's ego led to Hank getting the job and it was a major in judgement.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2017, 09:04:15 PM »
Newise, do you remember when Hank and Rick came to Schroeder in the spring of 1980 to talk about the 80/81 team. Hank talked about this kid from Maywood he recruited....   They spoke in the basement, down by the dorm store. 

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2017, 09:21:07 PM »
Newise, do you remember when Hank and Rick came to Schroeder in the spring of 1980 to talk about the 80/81 team. Hank talked about this kid from Maywood he recruited....   They spoke in the basement, down by the dorm store.
Chili won't lie, was probably out getting drunk. Never missed a game I had a ticket for, but didn't go to stuff like that. Except for the couple of times Al was on campus.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2017, 09:23:23 PM »
Chili won't lie, was probably out getting drunk. Never missed a game I had a ticket for, but didn't go to stuff like that. Except for the couple of times Al was on campus.

You drank in college? And on a Monday night? 

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2017, 10:44:15 PM »
I didn't like the wsy he coached whike I was there '79-'83 and he was booed a lot by students. I think he just was not good with team chemistry during games.
I will never forget sitting in the stands at Market Square Arena in shock after we lost to Miami of Ohio. That's when I knew Hank would not get the job done. We had many better options to replace Al and made a bad choice. Obviously Hank was a good guy but was not up to sustaining our blue blood status.

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Re: Kevin O'Neill Retrospective
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2017, 11:07:59 PM »
Excellent points. Saw enough of his games to know he was an average coach and an excellent recruiter.

To those of you who take umbrage with the saved MU's program, he did! Here is the chronology:

1) Al created the world as we know it beginning in 1964. He created the program as we know it today.

2) Quentin Quade, the Administration and Hank almost destroyed it in the 1980s.

3) KO saved it after years of neglect.

4) The Hillbilly got us back to national prominence and put us in a position where we could hire Coach Wojo.

5) Coach Wojo will win the second through who knows national title for us.

Crean wasn't a hillbilly.

The Hillbilly got the keys to a Vette, traded it in for a Porsche, put a gun rack on it and crashed it into a swamp.
What, you still throwing up bricks? What is this, a Masons convention? Clank, clank! I need, like, a welding torch to play in this league! I got an idea, let's just stop right now and gather up all these bricks and let's build a shelter for the homeless so maybe your mother will have a place to stay