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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2017, 01:21:49 PM »
Great piece, Jay Bee. For all the continued griping about scheduling that went on last year, this addresses the critical reality that we didn't need to play an elite schedule, we just needed a significant upgrade from 2015-16.

Did we have a "great" schedule last year? No, but we didn't need "great", we just needed "not wretched".

Yep.  It really comes down to scheduling good buy games, though. Look at a team like Minnesota. Out of conference stregth of schedule of 6. This was their non-con schedule:

vs. Louisiana Lafayette
vs. Texas Arlington
vs. Mount St. Mary's
vs. St. Johns
vs. Arkansas
vs. South Illinois
@. Florida State
vs. Vandy (N)
vs. NJIT
vs. Georgia Southern
vs. Norther Illinois
vs. LIU Brooklyn
vs. Arkansas State

That schedule was rated #6 overall in non-con.  Its all about smart scheduling.  They definitely got lucky with some of those teams, but outside of @ Florida State, that isn't an overly difficult schedule.
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2017, 02:03:23 PM »
^^^ yep... key to remember is that RPI SOS doesn't really measure how difficult a schedule is. It can be gamed / easily fooled
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2017, 12:15:23 PM »
MU hosting Purdue in gavitt games

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Marquette will host Purdue in the 2017 Gavitt Games, per a source. #mubb
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2017, 12:17:07 PM »
That's a nice game.
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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2017, 12:19:21 PM »
MU hosting Purdue in gavitt games

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Marquette will host Purdue in the 2017 Gavitt Games, per a source. #mubb



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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2017, 12:44:02 PM »
Purdue game is Tuesday November 14th
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2017, 12:49:00 PM »
Whoa.  I thought we were for sure getting Minnesota.  Purdue is much better, IMO.  Excellent addition to our schedule.

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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2017, 01:05:56 PM »
I remember the last time we played Purdue.  1969 in the NCAA regional finals in Madison.   In my view the most heartbreaking loss in MU history.  Ric Cobb missed the second shot of a one and one that would likely have won the game in regulation.  In OT, Rick Mount hits the winning jumper from the corner. We are 0-8 versus Purdue.  Let's get one in the win column this year.   

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« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2017, 01:47:48 PM »
Whoa.  I thought we were for sure getting Minnesota.  Purdue is much better, IMO.  Excellent addition to our schedule.
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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2017, 10:24:20 AM »
We get UGA at home, too, correct?  Having two solid non conf home games is great for STHers. 
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2017, 11:24:49 AM »
The key to a good schedule virtually always hinges on the buy games. We've seen 5-6 high major games be wiped out by piss poor buy games, while a strong slate of .500 or better buy opponents can make a schedule with only 3-4 high major games look good.

If Swanigan and Matin are back, and we get Michigan/ND/Wichita in Maui, this could be a top 15-25 non-con with the right buy games. But bad non-con opponents could drag it down to the 200s.
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« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2017, 11:27:51 AM »
If Swanigan and Matin are back, and we get Michigan/ND/Wichita in Maui, this could be a top 15-25 non-con with the right buy games. But bad non-con opponents could drag it down to the 200s.

Exactly. Difficult schedule regardless - but the range of whether or not it's a "strong" schedule hinges on the "easy" games..
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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2017, 12:22:18 AM »
Bill Scholl is working on getting a home and home  or a neutral game with MSU. It probably won't happen this year but maybe sometime in the future. He says Izzo is open minded to it. He has also been working on getting a similar arrangement with UNC, his buddy is the AD there,but Roy is not excited to do it.
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2017, 07:58:21 AM »
Bill Scholl is working on getting a home and home  or a neutral game with MSU. It probably won't happen this year but maybe sometime in the future. He says Izzo is open minded to it. He has also been working on getting a similar arrangement with UNC, his buddy is the AD there,but Roy is not excited to do it.

  For the readers of Horse & Hound, this is very Good news indeed.
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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2017, 08:36:05 AM »
Bill Scholl is working on getting a home and home  or a neutral game with MSU. It probably won't happen this year but maybe sometime in the future. He says Izzo is open minded to it. He has also been working on getting a similar arrangement with UNC, his buddy is the AD there,but Roy is not excited to do it.

Fascinating indeed.  That's awesome that Bill is targeting blue bloods for OOC matchups. 

Roy must be worried that a game against Marquette would mean less study time for his players.

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« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2017, 08:56:21 AM »
I think it's funny that MUFINY says something weird we don't want to hear everyone rags on him and when he posts something we want to hear we all believe it no questions asked
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« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2017, 09:14:16 AM »
I think it's funny that MUFINY says something weird we don't want to hear everyone rags on him and when he posts something we want to hear we all believe it no questions asked

Oh there are questions. I'm surprised Scholl has time to schedule these home and homes. I would have thought he was busy awarding Wojo his contract extension that MUFINY said was coming immediately after the season ended.
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« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2017, 09:19:25 AM »


Roy must be worried that a game against Marquette would mean less study time for his players.

Roy might think it's part of the General Electric College Bowl Quiz.  No Worries Roy.

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« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2017, 09:23:57 AM »
FYI, last year the Maui bracket was announced in mid-July.
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« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2017, 09:33:39 AM »
I think it's funny that MUFINY says something weird we don't want to hear everyone rags on him and when he posts something we want to hear we all believe it no questions asked


I really don't take anything he says seriously.

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« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2017, 09:44:34 AM »
I remember the last time we played Purdue.  1969 in the NCAA regional finals in Madison.   In my view the most heartbreaking loss in MU history.  Ric Cobb missed the second shot of a one and one that would likely have won the game in regulation.  In OT, Rick Mount hits the winning jumper from the corner. We are 0-8 versus Purdue.  Let's get one in the win column this year.   

I was there. Have to say the folks in Madison were great. Off hand I can't remember the place, but the owner gave us a round of beers on the house after the game.

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« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2017, 10:27:20 AM »
I think it's funny that MUFINY says something weird we don't want to hear everyone rags on him and when he posts something we want to hear we all believe it no questions asked

I thought the exact same. I can't see MSU having any interest in giving us a game there when we've gone head to head with them for recruits recently. As far as UNC, I suppose it's not impossible, but they don't do a lot of high major home and homes.

One more insurance of MUFINY just flinging poo at the wall to see what sticks.
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« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2017, 10:32:44 AM »
I thought the exact same. I can't see MSU having any interest in giving us a game there when we've gone head to head with them for recruits recently. As far as UNC, I suppose it's not impossible, but they don't do a lot of high major home and homes.

One more insurance of MUFINY just flinging poo at the wall to see what sticks.
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« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2017, 10:36:02 AM »
I thought the exact same. I can't see MSU having any interest in giving us a game there when we've gone head to head with them for recruits recently. As far as UNC, I suppose it's not impossible, but they don't do a lot of high major home and homes.

One more insurance of MUFINY just flinging poo at the wall to see what sticks.

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« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2017, 10:36:56 AM »
You have to ask yourself, why in the world would Tom Izzo want to play a game in Milwaukee?


He promised Joey a game close to home.