Henry Ellenson to replace Jon Leuer in the Pistons Starting Lineup Tonight

[VegasWarrior77]

Nathan Marzion‏ @natemar3i0n  31m31 minutes ago
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Lineup note: Henry Ellenson will start Friday.

Nathan Marzion‏@natemar3i0n 30minutes ago
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MARQUETTE BEATS WISCONSIN ONCE AGAIN

[tower912]

Might as well.  The rest of the team has been phoning it in for weeks.

[Tugg Speedman]

Might as well.  The rest of the team has been phoning it in for weeks.

+1

A crappy team all but eliminated from the playoffs has 4 game left this season and is playing at the Rockets that have clinched the 3 seed (and cannot get the 2 seed).  So, the game has no meaning for the Rockets.  Point is why play any regulars?  Time to test drive what you have in the D-league to see if it is worth anything.

Hope Henry has a good game.

[Tugg Speedman]

Henry's Stat Line Today (remember that before tonight's game, he played only 1 minute since January 21).

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400900560

Min: 26
FG: 6 - 16
3Pt: 1-8
Pts: 15
FT: 2- 2
Reb: 11
Blk: 1
+/-: -3

So he put up 16 attempts in 26 minutes, 50% were 3pt.  Can we call him "baby Steve Novak?"

He had a double/double.

Again for a guy that played 1 minute the last 10 weeks, this is a solid effort.

[burger]

Natural order of things:

Warriors replacing Badgers......

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Still cant shoot the 3

Woulda been interested to see what the season woulda been like 2 years ago if wojo had reigned in the chucking.  Lost a few games imo due to the no pass 3s from henry.  Good player with good potential no doubt but if its not wojo trying to appease henry he gets yanked for many of those shots.  We were a decent team when henry played the 5 and we played 4 guards around him.  Unfortunately we didnt play like that very much.  The myth of luke fischer was still alive and ellenson wanted to play on wing n wojo appeased him. 
Ive been happy with wojo to this point but was quite disappointed that henry or maybe his parents seemed to call the offense for MU last year.  Sure henry projects to a 3 /stretch 4 in the pros but while that skill showed potential it was not yet developed.  His butt shoulda been inside 15 feet where he was actually a dominant college player

[GGGG]

Still cant shoot the 3

Woulda been interested to see what the season woulda been like 2 years ago if wojo had reigned in the chucking.  Lost a few games imo due to the no pass 3s from henry.  Good player with good potential no doubt but if its not wojo trying to appease henry he gets yanked for many of those shots.  We were a decent team when henry played the 5 and we played 4 guards around him.  Unfortunately we didnt play like that very much.  The myth of luke fischer was still alive and ellenson wanted to play on wing n wojo appeased him. 
Ive been happy with wojo to this point but was quite disappointed that henry or maybe his parents seemed to call the offense for MU last year.  Sure henry projects to a 3 /stretch 4 in the pros but while that skill showed potential it was not yet developed.  His butt shoulda been inside 15 feet where he was actually a dominant college player

I'm really glad you aren't Marquette's head coach.

[Anti-Dentite]

Still cant shoot the 3

Woulda been interested to see what the season woulda been like 2 years ago if wojo had reigned in the chucking.  Lost a few games imo due to the no pass 3s from henry.  Good player with good potential no doubt but if its not wojo trying to appease henry he gets yanked for many of those shots.  We were a decent team when henry played the 5 and we played 4 guards around him.  Unfortunately we didnt play like that very much.  The myth of luke fischer was still alive and ellenson wanted to play on wing n wojo appeased him. 
Ive been happy with wojo to this point but was quite disappointed that henry or maybe his parents seemed to call the offense for MU last year.  Sure henry projects to a 3 /stretch 4 in the pros but while that skill showed potential it was not yet developed.  His butt shoulda been inside 15 feet where he was actually a dominant college player

I see you talking but all I hear is blah, blah, blah.

[MerrittsMustache]

At this point, Henry's a "stretch 4" in name only. He's a 1st Rounder with NBA size so he'll get a long rope but needs to improve his efficiency and shot selection if he wants to have any sort of prolonged NBA career.

[Tugg Speedman]

At this point, Henry's a "stretch 4" in name only. He's a 1st Rounder with NBA size so he'll get a long rope but needs to improve his efficiency and shot selection if he wants to have any sort of prolonged NBA career.

How do you know this?  Again he's played 1 minute in the last 10 weeks.  Have you looked at his D-league stats?  If so, please provide a link?

If you're basing these comments on the above stat line, don't.  Henry was probably jacked he was finally playing extended minutes.  And if you base every rookies career on the very first game they play more than 20 minutes, you'd even conclude Lebron would be a journeyman player.

Detroit has three more games this season.  Assuming Henry gets similar minutes the rest of the way, let's see what his stat line looks like in 3 games.

[Eldon]

Henry's Stat Line Today (remember that before tonight's game, he played only 1 minute since January 21).

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400900560

Min: 26
FG: 6 - 16
3Pt: 1-8
Pts: 15
FT: 2- 2
Reb: 11
Blk: 1
+/-: -3

So he put up 16 attempts in 26 minutes, 50% were 3pt.  Can we call him "baby Steve Novak?"

He had a double/double.

Again for a guy that played 1 minute the last 10 weeks, this is a solid effort.

Need advanced stats, bruh.

He had an eRB% of 87%, meaning that only 13% of his rebounds were difficult.

[MerrittsMustache]

How do you know this?  Again he's played 1 minute in the last 10 weeks.  Have you looked at his D-league stats?  If so, please provide a link?

If you're basing these comments on the above stat line, don't.  Henry was probably jacked he was finally playing extended minutes.  And if you base every rookies career on the very first game they play more than 20 minutes, you'd even conclude Lebron would be a journeyman player.

Detroit has three more games this season.  Assuming Henry gets similar minutes the rest of the way, let's see what his stat line looks like in 3 games.

His eFG was an underwhelming 47.9% in the D League.

He shot 41.8% from the floor and 33.8% from 3, which made up over one-third of his FGA.

Efficiency is an issue. 

Also, LeBron went for 25-9-6-4 on 12-20 shooting in his 42-minute NBA debut.

[jsglow]

At this point, Henry's a "stretch 4" in name only. He's a 1st Rounder with NBA size so he'll get a long rope but needs to improve his efficiency and shot selection if he wants to have any sort of prolonged NBA career.

Honestly, that's how I see it too.

[Dawson Rental]

His eFG was an underwhelming 47.9% in the D League.

He shot 41.8% from the floor and 33.8% from 3, which made up over one-third of his FGA.

Efficiency is an issue.

Doesn't the fact that his eFG was much better while taking 3 point shots and him taking over a third of his shots from 3 suggest that he is a stretch four?

[Babybluejeans]

Incredible name. Well done.

[GB Warrior]

Doesn't the fact that his eFG was much better while taking 3 point shots and him taking over a third of his shots from 3 suggest that he is a stretch four?

Gotta hit your shots. Honestly, unless his shooting improves, his ceiling is Jon Leuer. He's only 19 or 20, so as someone said, he'll get a couple years' leash, but still a long way to go

[wadesworld]

Still cant shoot the 3

Woulda been interested to see what the season woulda been like 2 years ago if wojo had reigned in the chucking.  Lost a few games imo due to the no pass 3s from henry.  Good player with good potential no doubt but if its not wojo trying to appease henry he gets yanked for many of those shots.  We were a decent team when henry played the 5 and we played 4 guards around him.  Unfortunately we didnt play like that very much.  The myth of luke fischer was still alive and ellenson wanted to play on wing n wojo appeased him. 
Ive been happy with wojo to this point but was quite disappointed that henry or maybe his parents seemed to call the offense for MU last year.  Sure henry projects to a 3 /stretch 4 in the pros but while that skill showed potential it was not yet developed.  His butt shoulda been inside 15 feet where he was actually a dominant college player

So you wanted Luke out of the game AND Hank pulled from the game when he "chucked" a 3? Man you're a genius, let's roll with Sandy Cohen at the 5!

[MerrittsMustache]

Doesn't the fact that his eFG was much better while taking 3 point shots and him taking over a third of his shots from 3 suggest that he is a stretch four?

Fair point but it also suggests that he's shooting even less efficiently from 2.

[cheebs09]

Gotta hit your shots. Honestly, unless his shooting improves, his ceiling is Jon Leuer. He's only 19 or 20, so as someone said, he'll get a couple years' leash, but still a long way to go

There's worse things than a Jon Leuer career. He's only 19. He can improve his shot still. Good to see him have a nice game even if it wasn't an efficient one.

[VegasWarrior77]

Henry highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wq2HcB6D3E&feature=youtu.be

[Tums Festival]

How do you know this?  Again he's played 1 minute in the last 10 weeks.  Have you looked at his D-league stats?  If so, please provide a link?

If you're basing these comments on the above stat line, don't.  Henry was probably jacked he was finally playing extended minutes.  And if you base every rookies career on the very first game they play more than 20 minutes, you'd even conclude Lebron would be a journeyman player.

Detroit has three more games this season.  Assuming Henry gets similar minutes the rest of the way, let's see what his stat line looks like in 3 games.

Henry's D-League stats:
http://stats.nbadleague.com/player/#!/1627740/

[Newsdreams]

Still cant shoot the 3

Woulda been interested to see what the season woulda been like 2 years ago if wojo had reigned in the chucking.  Lost a few games imo due to the no pass 3s from henry.  Good player with good potential no doubt but if its not wojo trying to appease henry he gets yanked for many of those shots.  We were a decent team when henry played the 5 and we played 4 guards around him.  Unfortunately we didnt play like that very much.  The myth of luke fischer was still alive and ellenson wanted to play on wing n wojo appeased him. 
Ive been happy with wojo to this point but was quite disappointed that henry or maybe his parents seemed to call the offense for MU last year.  Sure henry projects to a 3 /stretch 4 in the pros but while that skill showed potential it was not yet developed.  His butt shoulda been inside 15 feet where he was actually a dominant college player

Lol even some Luke hate in the mix.

[MU82]

Lol even some Luke hate in the mix.

Well yeah. This dodobird troll thinks Patton picked up fouls by osmosis instead of trying to defend Luke.

[HouWarrior]

Because they were playing my Rockets I watched all of Henry's play.

Henry played with good energy. Made a few good shots but most were 2nd 3rd option kick outs...Rockets sagged and ignored him most of the time...not yet good enough to draw defensive attention. He threw up threes but his form remains something to work on. He looked like a D leaguer up for a look...he likely will benefit from one more year in the D.

Bill Worrell our local Rockets TV announcer (Clyde Drexler/Matt Bullard do color) had worked Rockets games over 20 years with former MU SID Jim Foley, so he  is always very nice to announce any and all MU references...Bill brought up a few of them when Henry was playing...even making the comment...""he looks good out there but still has some work to do...maybe he would have benefited by another year at Marquette..."

Agree?

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Another year n college only makes him look more polished as a rookie.  How ver a full year in pro ball he is gonna improve more than a year in college ball, more games, more time in the weight room, more practice time, etc etc etc