Traci knee trouble

[jsglow]

Wojo just indicated that he really wasn't available tonight and that he's headed to the doctor.

1) Does anyone have more info?
2) In the event it is serious, has Traci already played too much to get a medical redshirt?

[Jay Bee]

Wojo just indicated that he really wasn't available tonight and that he's headed to the doctor.

1) Does anyone have more info?
2) In the event it is serious, has Traci already played too much to get a medical redshirt?

2) If he wound up being physically incapable of playing the rest of the season, he would easily qualify for a medical hardship waiver.

[bilsu]

I believe you have to play in 30% or less of the team's games. Assuming we play only 31 games that would be 9 games. He has played in 8. I am assuming the exhibition does not count.

[Herman Cain]

I believe you have to play in 30% or less of the teams games. Asuming we play only 31 games that would be 9 games. He has played in 8. I am assuming the exhibition does not count.

I think the exhibition counts.

[Jay Bee]

I believe you have to play in 30% or less of the teams games. Asuming we play only 31 games that would be 9 games. He has played in 8. I am assuming the exhibition does not count.

You're close, except the 30% requirement is based on the game that gets you to, or pushes you over, 30%. 30% x 31 (1 for sked conf tourn) = 9.3. Therefore 10 is the max. (Additional requirements apply, but he'd be fine if incapacitated from here on out)

I think the exhibition counts.

Your thinking is incorrect.

[Marcus92]

Let's hope all of this is needless speculation. Even with the emergence of Markus Howard and solid play from Andrew, Traci can be a key contributor for this team. It's tough to stop a three-headed monster.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In my experience, "soreness" usually means the player is back after one missed .game. You never know though

[Herman Cain]

You're close, except the 30% requirement is based on the game that gets you to, or pushes you over, 30%. 30% x 31 (1 for sked conf tourn) = 9.3. Therefore 10 is the max. (Additional requirements apply, but he'd be fine if incapacitated from here on out)

Your thinking is incorrect.

For the most part exhibitions don't count unless they specifically do count.

https://msu.edu/~msuncaa/Medical%20Hardship%20Waivers.pdf

[real chili 83]

What about super, double secret scrimmages against Dayton and the like.   I hear they might count double.

[vogue65]

I heard knees, not knee, therefore he probably needs RICE.

[jsglow]

Certainly there was nothing in Wojo words that suggests year ending.  I simply wanted to ask the eligibility question.

[Jay Bee]

For the most part exhibitions don't count unless they specifically do count.

https://msu.edu/~msuncaa/Medical%20Hardship%20Waivers.pdf

Why did you link that? It simply states what I already said -- "excluding scrimmages and exhibition contests identified as such in the legislation"

You slow?

[bilsu]

Certainly there was nothing in Wojo words that suggests year ending.  I simply wanted to ask the eligibility question.

Wojo is limited on what he can say, so I do not think you can make  a conclusion on what he said.

[wildbillsb]

I am also limited as to what I can say, as well - especially during the holiday gift-buying season.

[jsglow]

Wojo is limited on what he can say, so I do not think you can make  a conclusion on what he said.

I agree completely.  I just didn't want the impression out there that there is any info about the severity at this time.

[bilsu]

What about super, double secret scrimmages against Dayton and the like.   I hear they might count double.

I kind of got lost in the exceptions, but assuming they do not meet an exception than the secret scrimages do count. If that is the case than Carter has played in 10 contests. MU will play a minimun of 33 contests and Carter can only play in 10 assuming you do round up to the next whole number. Now, if MU wins a Big East tournament game or gets a bid resulting in a 34th contest Carter could play in 11 games.
Had MU scheduled the 31st game an MU player would of been guaranteed an 11 contest limit instead of the 10 contest limit of the 30 game schedule.
30 + 2 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=33
33 x.3 =9.9, which rounds up to 10
31 + 2 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=34
34x.3 =10.2, which rounds up to 11
If MU ran the table
30 +2+3 +6=41 x.3 =12.3,which rounds upto 13.
It seems to me that this is a rule that favors a Blue blood, since they are usually going to play more contests than the average team.
The other thing I read is that freshmen are treated differently and it is a little bit confusing because they were talking both about a non-medical redshirt and a medical redshirt. They were also talking about other sports. However the way I read it the first computation above for Howard or Hauser would be
 30 + 0 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=31
31 x.3 =9.3, which rounds up to 10
However, through last nights game Howard & Hauser would of played in 9 contests instead of 11.
Feel free to disagree, if you read something different.
Finally, the big thing is being able to prove that it was a season ending injury. Carter could have surgury tommorrow and not be able to play for 10 games. That would not allow MU to medical redshirt him if he was able to play after that. That would certainly preclude Wojo from saying an undetermine injury is a season ending injury.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Your {MUFINY} thinking is incorrect.

This is the most accurate statement I have ever seen on Scoop

[jsglow]

Okay, so under any calculation you guys can dream up, Traci's under the limit.  So if it's not serious this is moot and if it is serious he'll qualify for the medical waiver assuming he plays no more.

Let's hope we see him play Saturday.

[Lennys Tap]

What about super, double secret scrimmages against Dayton and the like.   I hear they might count double.

Only affect tournament seeding.

[Jay Bee]

I kind of got lost in the exceptions, but assuming they do not meet an exception than the secret scrimages do count. If that is the case than Carter has played in 10 contests. MU will play a minimun of 33 contests and Carter can only play in 10 assuming you do round up to the next whole number. Now, if MU wins a Big East tournament game or gets a bid resulting in a 34th contest Carter could play in 11 games.
Had MU scheduled the 31st game an MU player would of been guaranteed an 11 contest limit instead of the 10 contest limit of the 30 game schedule.
30 + 2 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=33
33 x.3 =9.9, which rounds up to 10
31 + 2 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=34
34x.3 =10.2, which rounds up to 11
If MU ran the table
30 +2+3 +6=41 x.3 =12.3,which rounds upto 13.
It seems to me that this is a rule that favors a Blue blood, since they are usually going to play more contests than the average team.
The other thing I read is that freshmen are treated differently and it is a little bit confusing because they were talking both about a non-medical redshirt and a medical redshirt. They were also talking about other sports. However the way I read it the first computation above for Howard or Hauser would be
 30 + 0 exhibitions + 1 conference tournament=31
31 x.3 =9.3, which rounds up to 10
However, through last nights game Howard & Hauser would of played in 9 contests instead of 11.
Feel free to disagree, if you read something different.
Finally, the big thing is being able to prove that it was a season ending injury. Carter could have surgury tommorrow and not be able to play for 10 games. That would not allow MU to medical redshirt him if he was able to play after that. That would certainly preclude Wojo from saying an undetermine injury is a season ending injury.

No. you're completely wrong in almost everything that you wrote.

[bilsu]

No. you're completely wrong in almost everything that you wrote.

You are the only poster I really do not like.

[Newsdreams]

Update
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/806953634747518976

[4everwarriors]

Maybe Chief resurfaces, hey?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Update
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/806953634747518976

Don't like that.

All too familiar with reoccurring knee injuries because of my dad. Hopefully he can power through it and not structurally damage it.

[jsglow]

Hopefully good for the season and then if a little clean-upis necessary in April.