Big East Non Conference Results

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

DePaul and Johnnies race to the bottom. PC and GT a level above but nowhere near .500.

The MU battle will be with Hall for that fifth place position that would get them to the NCAAs. Considering how Hall manhandled us last season, garnering a split will be a monumental task.

Agree with this but Big East is strong enough for six bids. Not ready to count Georgetown or Providence out either.

[Galway Eagle]

Agree with this but Big East is strong enough for six bids. Not ready to count Georgetown or Providence out either.

I doubt they'll be fighting with us for a bid so much as fighting to spoil a bid.

[Herman Cain]

Seton Hall beat Columbia
Big East now 53-16

[Herman Cain]

St Johns at Tulane 8 pm eastern ESPNNews

[MUBigDance]

Big day for big east....6 games that could go 6-0 or 2-4 or anywhere in between. 6-0 plus a MU win at Georgia would make a nice weekend.....or even just the MU win, right?! 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Big day for big east....6 games that could go 6-0 or 2-4 or anywhere in between. 6-0 plus a MU win at Georgia would make a nice weekend.....or even just the MU win, right?! 

Guessing they go anywhere from the 3-3 or 5-1 range. Baylor vs. X and Rhode Island vs Providence are the only two toss up games in my book. Depaul will lose by 15 to NU and the rest of the BE teams should win pretty handily.

[Herman Cain]

Courtesy of MU Panther from Dodds board
12:00pm- St. Joseph's @ 2 Villanova, CBSSN- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb,*John Schriffen
Line: Villanova -19
2:30pm- 7 Xavier @ 9 Baylor, ESPN2 - Rich Hollenburg, Sean Farmham
Line: Baylor -5.5
3:00pm - Central Arkansas @ 18 Butler, FS2 - Vince Welsh, Joel Cornette
Line: Butler -29
3:30pm - 21 Rhode Island @ Providence, FSN - Alex Faust, Dicky Simpkins
Line: Rhode Island -2
6:00pm - DePaul @ Northwestern, BTN- Kevin Kulger, Shon Morris
Line: Northwestern -14
7:00pm - Akron @ 10 Creighton, FS2 - Steve Physioc, Nick Bahe
Line: Creighton -14

[vogue65]

Courtesy of MU Panther from Dodds board
12:00pm- St. Joseph's @ 2 Villanova, CBSSN- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb,*John Schriffen
Line: Villanova -19
2:30pm- 7 Xavier @ 9 Baylor, ESPN2 - Rich Hollenburg, Sean Farmham
Line: Baylor -5.5
3:00pm - Central Arkansas @ 18 Butler, FS2 - Vince Welsh, Joel Cornette
Line: Butler -29
3:30pm - 21 Rhode Island @ Providence, FSN - Alex Faust, Dicky Simpkins
Line: Rhode Island -2
6:00pm - DePaul @ Northwestern, BTN- Kevin Kulger, Shon Morris
Line: Northwestern -14
7:00pm - Akron @ 10 Creighton, FS2 - Steve Physioc, Nick Bahe
Line: Creighton -14

Glad I don't bet anymore, not since I  nearly got busted, by the good old MPD.  The daytime bartender went down, I dodged the bullet.  Baylor would have tempted me, oh well, I'm  retired.

[brewcity77]

Providence on an 11-2 run and now lead #21 Rhode Island 51-49 with 7 to play. Friars are kind of frenetic, but when they're blocking shots and running they can be effective.

Xavier lost to Baylor after leading at the half. BU destroyed them in the second to win 76-61.

Villanova and Butler both took care of business.

[brewcity77]

Big win for Providence. Nail biter to the end, but Friars win it 63-60. Kyron Cartwright looks like the next crazy stat PC guard, in the vein of Dunn, Cotton, and Council.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Northwestern (without their starting center) already up by 12 over Depaul only 7 minutes into the game.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

DePaul is just horrendous, getting their ass handed to them right now. Midway through the first half Northwestern up 24, lol.

[Dr. Blackheart]

DePaul is just horrendous, getting their ass handed to them right now. Midway through the first half Northwestern up 24, lol.

Collins getting it done.  Cubs and Cats both break their curses?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Collins getting it done.  Cubs and Cats both break their curses?

Maybe, theyre a very good team but have a very unfavorable B1G schedule. They got stuck with Indiana and Purdue twice with their matchups against Michigan St and Wisconsin both away. Really could have used the wins against Notre Dame and Butler.

Should be a very interesting team when Pardon and Falzon get back. I predicted a couple year ago that when McIntosh and Law are Juniors they will have a good shot to be a NCAA tourney team, hope that turn out right.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Now 60-18

Third in Conference RPI  third in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

[Herman Cain]

St. Johns vs Cal State Northridge

6:30 Pm Eastern  FS1

[Herman Cain]

Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.

[KampusFoods]

Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.

Just looked at St. John's season to date. Woof. How bad is that Delaware State loss? It's DSU's only D-1 win of the season, to go along with some big losses to bad competition. Bad bad bad.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Just looked at St. John's season to date. Woof. How bad is that Delaware State loss? It's DSU's only D-1 win of the season, to go along with some big losses to bad competition. Bad bad bad.

Last I checked Delaware State was ranked 340 in KenPom. I don't have the data but I'd be willing to bet that they were the lowest ranked team (per KenPom) to ever beat a Big East squad.

[brewcity77]

That Delaware State loss was a doozy. Mullin is getting talent, but I'm not convinced at all by his coaching. I know people complain about Wojo, but as far as a game coach he's light years ahead of Mullin right now. I'd love it if them and DePaul combined for 2 Big East wins (each other). If everyone else had 4 wins to start with, that improves the odds of getting 6-8 teams in the NCAAs.

[brewcity77]

And as crazy as 8 might seem, I could see...

1) Villanova 27-4 (14-4)
2) Creighton 25-6 (12-6)
3) Butler 23-7 (11-7)
4) Marquette 21-9 (11-7)
5) Xavier 22-9 (10-8)
6) Seton Hall 20-10 (10-8)
7) Georgetown 19-12 (10-8)
8) Providence 21-10 (10-8)
9) DePaul 10-20 (1-17)
10) St. John's 8-23 (1-17)

If you have two terrible teams and a glut of teams in the middle, it's not impossible. In this scenario, Georgetown might need help, and it would take a strong finish to non-con play, but 8 teams wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The Big 12 came very close in 2014 (7 in, WVU probably would have been had they won 2 of the 5 non-con games they lost by single digits).

[Herman Cain]

And as crazy as 8 might seem, I could see...

1) Villanova 27-4 (14-4)
2) Creighton 25-6 (12-6)
3) Butler 23-7 (11-7)
4) Marquette 21-9 (11-7)
5) Xavier 22-9 (10-8)
6) Seton Hall 20-10 (10-8)
7) Georgetown 19-12 (10-8)
8) Providence 21-10 (10-8)
9) DePaul 10-20 (1-17)
10) St. John's 8-23 (1-17)

If you have two terrible teams and a glut of teams in the middle, it's not impossible. In this scenario, Georgetown might need help, and it would take a strong finish to non-con play, but 8 teams wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The Big 12 came very close in 2014 (7 in, WVU probably would have been had they won 2 of the 5 non-con games they lost by single digits).

The two terrible teams scenario is a good one for everyone (except of course the two )

[naginiF]

Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.

This is not a bag on our schedule at all because having a true road game at a "power 5" school is a great move (#exceptRutgers), but did i hear correctly during the Georgia game that so far, other than Kentucky, the SEC only has 2 'quality' wins this year and both are from South Carolina?

I'm too lazy to do the research but assuming true......THAT is a bad conference - both in scheduling and in quality.

[Herman Cain]

Johnnies hang on to beat Cal State Northridge 76-70. Freshman guard Ponds with 25

[wadesworld]

There will not be 8 teams with 10+ BE wins and there will not be 8 (or 7) BE teams in the NCAA Tournament.

Let's hope for an 18-0 MU team.  Everything else for the BE is just gravy.