Marquette v UWM?

[Cheer4MU]

UWM AD apparently thinks so...

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/10/21/uwms-braun-says-mens-basketball-series-with.html

[mu03eng]

They can want to all the want....don't care, ain't happening.

[GB Warrior]

It's the economy, stupid.

We own all the leverage over UWM and have no reason to fill up their stadium without a significant share of revenue. To that end, I would be shocked if there is a home and home deal with them. They're a buy game we don't need to pay expenses for. Until they admit that and that they don't move the needle for "basketball in MKE", we won't play them and won't care that we don't play them.

[tower912]

I find UWM as laughable as the next fan.   However, MU already does a fair amount of buy games anyway.    Treat UWM as a buy game.     Occasionally, if the home schedule is full, go across the street and get credit for a road game.    In the end, it really does no harm.   

[GB Warrior]

I find UWM as laughable as the next fan.   However, MU already does a fair amount of buy games anyway.    Treat UWM as a buy game.     Occasionally, if the home schedule is full, go across the street and get credit for a road game.    In the end, it really does no harm.   

I think UWM fancies itself an equal player in this deal. Their pride/ignorance/idiot AD is the hold-up

[naginiF]

I think UWM fancies itself an equal player in this deal. Their pride/ignorance/idiot AD is the hold-up

They were just gifted $1M for their program so it's pretty close right?

[BrewCity83]

Did you guys even read the article?  It's going to happen.  It would be on this year's schedule if they could have agreed on a date.

[fjm]

I find UWM as laughable as the next fan.   However, MU already does a fair amount of buy games anyway.    Treat UWM as a buy game.     Occasionally, if the home schedule is full, go across the street and get credit for a road game.    In the end, it really does no harm.   

I'm with tower. I despise UWM and my undergrad was from there. Their counselers are crap, the campus is crap... but if MU can get a 4:1. Take it. Why not. Better buy game than a #260 team. Plus every 5 years we get an away game that counts. And it would be atleast 1/4 full of our fans.

As much as I don't want it, I'm partially ok with it.

[GB Warrior]

Did you guys even read the article?  It's going to happen.  It would be on this year's schedule if they could have agreed on a date.

I interpret their respective quotes differently, I guess. The person with more to gain is much more optimistic, which is what one would expect in negotiations that are ongoing but not imminent.

That said, I agree with fjm that a 4:1 not the worst thing in the world.

On another note, can we pretend that UWMs upset last year is the reason UW didn't renew?

[fjm]

On another note, can we pretend that UWMs upset last year is the reason UW didn't renew?

We don't have to pretend... let's roll with it. I'm just surprised UW didn't take MU off the schedule also. 

[BrewCity83]

UW will take MU off of future schedules after we beat 'em again this year.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

We don't have to pretend... let's roll with it. I'm just surprised UW didn't take MU off the schedule also. 

Plus, MU forced Bo to coach one more game.

[The Equalizer]

It's the economy, stupid.

We own all the leverage over UWM and have no reason to fill up their stadium without a significant share of revenue. To that end, I would be shocked if there is a home and home deal with them. They're a buy game we don't need to pay expenses for. Until they admit that and that they don't move the needle for "basketball in MKE", we won't play them and won't care that we don't play them.

A road win is extremely valuable from an RPI perspective. Playing UWM would be an away game where a) we don't have to travel, b) the majority of fans in the house are going to be ours and c) we're likely to win regardless of venue.

The RPI benefit to us far exceeds the value of pretending that by not playing them we somehow hold them back. They're a low major and always going to be a low major.  Us playing them at their place doesn't legitimize them any more than Wisconsin playing at their place magically transformed them.

[keefe]

I find UWM as laughable as the next fan.   However, MU already does a fair amount of buy games anyway.    Treat UWM as a buy game.     Occasionally, if the home schedule is full, go across the street and get credit for a road game.    In the end, it really does no harm.   

Best comment ever on the UWM thing.

[brewcity77]

If UWM wants to play at the BC, fine. Otherwise, the only way they get to see us is in the tournament or buying a ticket. Playing at their building should never again be on the table.

[Eldon]

A road win is extremely valuable from an RPI perspective. Playing UWM would be an away game where a) we don't have to travel, b) the majority of fans in the house are going to be ours and c) we're likely to win regardless of venue.

The RPI benefit to us far exceeds the value of pretending that by not playing them we somehow hold them back. They're a low major and always going to be a low major.  Us playing them at their place doesn't legitimize them any more than Wisconsin playing at their place magically transformed them.

I've long had this same thought.  Anyone have any clue what this RPI bump would look like?

Back in 2009 or 2010 or 2011 when MU only beeat UWM by 4, was that on their court or MU's?

[Dawson Rental]

I've long had this same thought.  Anyone have any clue what this RPI bump would look like?

Back in 2009 or 2010 or 2011 when MU only beeat UWM by 4, was that on their court or MU's?

Their court.  2010 (linked article has this wrong).  By three points.

[Brewtown Andy]

Did you guys even read the article?  It's going to happen.  It would be on this year's schedule if they could have agreed on a date.

I suspect it was more than just agreeing on a date.  Marquette had, in theory, four open spots on the calendar.  UWM is out of town for one, hosting Jacksonville on another, hosting Belmont on a third (they are going to lose this game), and completely off on the fourth because it's in the middle of their final exams.

That's at least two games that UWM could have opted to play Marquette instead of hosting a game, and if you're going to lose to Belmont anyway, why not take the payday against Marquette?  Something else held this up.

[Badgerhoney]

We just dropped these guys, and there will likely never be a return of UW to play at UWM in the future.  Our administration determined there is no upside.  Circumstances may be different for you guys.

[brewcity77]

Road wins are great. If we're going to do three or four for one, actually go on the road. Look at Evansville, Valparaiso, or other less local opponents. Milwaukee and Green Bay shouldn't be those opponents.

As the Badger fan said, they just dropped these teams as road games. No reason we should take a step back I that regard.

[rocky_warrior]

Did you guys even read the article?  It's going to happen.  It would be on this year's schedule if they could have agreed on a date.

The article did not say it was going to happen.  As for this year...Braun said "We were hoping to have that this year " - hoping is far different than saying "Marquette agreed to play but..."

[Dr. Blackheart]

Honestly, for the city, it would be nice for MU and UWM to kickoff the new arena in NCAA game #1. 

[4everwarriors]

Honestly, for the city, it would be nice for MU and UWM to kickoff the new arena in NCAA game #1.

Fook that chit, hey?