Author Topic: Welcome to MU Jamal Cain! (Read 37105 times)

bilsu · « **Reply #125 on:** September 20, 2016, 02:40:43 PM »

Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 20, 2016, 12:55:10 PM

That is one game. I was talking about the entire season....and Georgetown had a loosing season last year. Hope Traci proves me wrong this season, OK? Obviously your eyes see something different than my eyes, which does not make either of us wrong.

I think Traci will greatly benefit from having a year of experience.
For comparison purposes:
2015/2016 Traci 790 minutes 153 assists 77 turnovers 1.987 ratio
2014/2015 Derrick 1053 minutes 150 assists 51 turnovers 2.941 ratio
2013/2014 Derrick 987 minutes 135 assists 48 turnovers 2.813 ratio
2012/2013 Cadougan 982 minutes 133 assists 87 turnovers 1.529 ratio
2011/2012 Cadougan 972 minutes 183 assists 90 turnovers 2.033
Comparing assists to minutes played Traci was the best point guard when it came to assists, but he also was the most turnover prone. I would expect his turnover rate to fall as the game slows down for him.

Marcus92 · « **Reply #126 on:** September 20, 2016, 02:47:15 PM »

For all Traci's talent and potential, he didn't play like a high-level point guard last season. Nobody confused him with Kris Dunn or Maurice Watson. Traci's performance was inconsistent, he committed turnovers at a shockingly high rate and his overall offensive efficiency was low.

There was plenty of blame to go around, of course — because you could say the same about pretty much the rest of the team.

The fortunate thing is that, with time and experience, potential has a way of becoming reality. Freshman aren't freshmen anymore. They're no longer wide-eyed about the big, new world of college basketball. Been there, done that. They've had months to mature physically and improve their games.

Along with the new talent and experience we'll bring to the court this year in Rowsey and Reinhardt, youth and inexperience can no longer be an excuse. Wojo won't be counting on 3 freshman to play major minutes or carry the offense. That makes me optimistic for the season.

But that's far from a guarantee. The Big East conference schedule is a crucible. At this point, nobody knows if we have what it takes to overtake teams like Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall or Providence. And the picture won't get any clearer until the season gets underway.

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #127 on:** September 20, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »

This is far from scientific, but frequently frosh/soph guards look like they struggle with the pace of college bball - this is amplified with PGs in my opinion.

Traci showed he was fast and aggressive enough to beat experienced guards while on offense. His fault is he couldn't use that speed for positive impact because just making the move caused him to be out of control or he wasn't looking up to be able to make the pass once he beat his man. There were tiny bits of games though where he showed both the speed and poise to complete this with control. For example there were moments of him breaking the press in the second half against Villanova at home that you saw flashes of this (speed + control).

I remind myself that usually I don't get to see this learning process on the floor because there is enough depth to bury the player on the bench or put him in as a 2G to learn in a role that gets less touches.

That is why I am optimistic. If the game slows down for him, I think he can certainly be the best PG in recent memory and probably be as good as someone like C. Henry.

Strokin 3s · « **Reply #128 on:** September 20, 2016, 04:09:23 PM »

Back to Cain.....anyone else think his form on his shots is reminiscent of Wade?

Marcus92 · « **Reply #129 on:** September 20, 2016, 04:36:24 PM »

From the summer league video I've seen, most of his scoring was on layups and dunks. It's hard for me to say anything about his shooting form. (Plus, these videos only show the shots he made, when his form is presumably the best. Not all that instructive, in my opinion.)

A couple other things struck me, though. One is how smooth he looks on the court, with or without the ball. Jamal seems to have a good handle, losing defenders with a wicked crossover a couple times. In another sequence, he outran at least 3 guys down the court on the break, caught the outlet pass in stride and finished effortlessly. He can sure cover a lot of distance in a hurry.

GOO · « **Reply #130 on:** September 20, 2016, 04:43:10 PM »

Quote from: Strokin 3s on September 20, 2016, 04:09:23 PM

Back to Cain.....anyone else think his form on his shots is reminiscent of Wade?

From what I saw, he has a lot of issues with his jumper: Twists his upper body, doesn't square his feet, one foot way out in front of the other, etc... not pretty.

brandx · « **Reply #131 on:** September 20, 2016, 04:51:07 PM »

Quote from: GOO on September 20, 2016, 04:43:10 PM

From what I saw, he has a lot of issues with his jumper: Twists his upper body, doesn't square his feet, one foot way out in front of the other, etc... not pretty.

They all want to copy Kobe' shot.

Hopefully, the coaches fix this. Seeing the difference in jjj's jumper makes me optimistic.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #132 on:** September 20, 2016, 04:55:50 PM »

Quote from: barfolomew on September 20, 2016, 12:48:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBwiTiClLeU

If the link doesn't take you there, go to about 1:50 in the video.
Eye test passed.

Go to 1:19 and it will show JJJ with great court vision on several plays in a row. He is truly our best passer.

LAMUfan · « **Reply #133 on:** September 20, 2016, 05:13:56 PM »

Quote from: brandx on September 20, 2016, 04:51:07 PM

They all want to copy Kobe' shot.

Hopefully, the coaches fix this. Seeing the difference in jjj's jumper makes me optimistic.

Teaching one foot in front of the other for jump shots is pretty popular now, so it may be intentional. Look at Steph Curry etc.

GOO · « **Reply #134 on:** September 20, 2016, 07:42:07 PM »

Quote from: LAMUfan on September 20, 2016, 05:13:56 PM

Teaching one foot in front of the other for jump shots is pretty popular now, so it may be intentional. Look at Steph Curry etc.

Here is a link to the video I watched. Has a twist and his right shoulder comes around due to his foot position. Doesn't start out square and ends up worse. Jumps forward and seems to kick his right leg out.
Hope I'm wrong and he improves as a shooter with the current form. One thing is for sure, there is a lot to like about his game!
Hope this link works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3abFWPI_28

Herman Cain · « **Reply #135 on:** September 20, 2016, 07:58:38 PM »

Quote from: GOO on September 20, 2016, 07:42:07 PM

Here is a link to the video I watched. Has a twist and his right shoulder comes around due to his foot position. Doesn't start out square and ends up worse. Jumps forward and seems to kick his right leg out.
Hope I'm wrong and he improves as a shooter with the current form. One thing is for sure, there is a lot to like about his game!
Hope this link works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3abFWPI_28

Many similarities to JJJ at the same age. The coaches will work with Jamal on any form issues. In the meantime, his agility, motor,court awareness and body control when leaping high are not things that can be taught.

MuMark · « **Reply #136 on:** September 20, 2016, 09:14:22 PM »

He shot 37% from 3 in AAU ball against top level competition. Gets good arc on his shot and they go in a good percentage of the time. Brett Nelson totally transformed JJ's shot which was much worse.

http://www.d1circuit.com/stats/team_instance/1806452?subseason=282324&tab=team_instance_player_stats&tool=1794524