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Which MUBB All-Time Team would win a round robin tournament against the others (assuming all players in their primes)?

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Author Topic: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?  (Read 8638 times)

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2016, 02:45:45 AM »
Sam Worthen and Larry McNeill need to be on that list.


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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2016, 05:32:28 AM »
I agree with this sarcastic analysis

The CPL deserves its reputation. However, MU's Chicago history lies mainly with the suburbs and the two Catholic leagues, with the exception of Bo Ellis. Yet, in 2016, for example, Cal, Gonzaga and Northwestern grabbed four of the Top 5, with SJU and DePaul securing top commits.  The year before it was Brunson to Nova and Seton Hall nabbing Carter out of St. Rita.  Bo leaned into Kaminsky and secured Ben from Mundelein.  Ulis was there for Buzz's taking. Hell, Coach K even dips into Chicago like Collins has at NU.

Yet, crickets...not even a real mention any more.

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2016, 06:13:08 AM »
And I think that I'd take David Boone over Toone at PF.

Are you nuts. Or just youthfully ignorant?

Toone would eat Boone's lunch!@

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2016, 06:44:41 AM »
Well then you could include Jon Harris who's now head coach down at SIU-E or Jim Smith who's second all time in D3 wins.

Smith would have a case, not sure Harris has done enough yet. As far as the coaches go, Al and Rick seemed pretty clear-cut cases. Chicagoland wasn't quite as certain. Chandler had the time on the job as head coach but a losing overall record, Wainright was probably the most successful despite that DePaul stint, while Wardle has been fairly successful and is one of our own in that he played and coached for us.
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2016, 08:02:38 AM »
Smith would have a case, not sure Harris has done enough yet. As far as the coaches go, Al and Rick seemed pretty clear-cut cases. Chicagoland wasn't quite as certain. Chandler had the time on the job as head coach but a losing overall record, Wainright was probably the most successful despite that DePaul stint, while Wardle has been fairly successful and is one of our own in that he played and coached for us.

Well if we're allowed to use any coach and it's based off their coaching acumen later rather than time at MU is take Tex Winter over majerus. I was just trying to find coaches a bit more associated with MU than being an assistant here a couple years.
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2016, 08:23:48 AM »
Don Kojis would easily start and be the star over Damon Key.  Worthen and Memminger as back-up guards, no way, one starts.  George was the best scoring
small forward in MU history, he would start over Jimmy Butler.  Have to consider McNeil as well as a starter.  Toone was a trick pony, great shooter, McNeil much
stronger in all other facets of the game, but mainly being mean.

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2016, 08:35:40 AM »
Sam Worthen and Larry McNeill need to be on that list.

So does Jim Boylan.

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2016, 09:35:36 AM »
Well if we're allowed to use any coach and it's based off their coaching acumen later rather than time at MU is take Tex Winter over majerus. I was just trying to find coaches a bit more associated with MU than being an assistant here a couple years.

You may have missed my point. Al is the best coach from everywhere else. Tex Winter is from Texas, so he couldn't coach the Wisconsin team, the only way he coaches is if you think he's better than Al McGuire.

That's why it's Rick Majerus in Wisconsin. The best head coach Marquette had from Chicagoland is Chandler, though using assistants, Wardle or Wainright could be argued.
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2016, 09:43:28 AM »
NYC may warrant it's own team.
You had Dean Meminger, Butch Lee, George Thompson, Earl Tatum, Bernard Toone and Roney Eford on the original Everywhere Else team.

As others mentioned you can add Sam Worthen, Larry McNeill, Jim Boylan, plus Ric Cobb, Mandy Johnson, Artie Green, Dwayne Johnson amongst others.


When the Everywhere Else team loses the NYC guys it probably becomes the weakest team.
Remaining from the original list is Dominic James, DJO, Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, Maurice Lucas plus I'll leave Lazar as he's from Buffalo.

Others that could be considered to fill in for the NYC guys could be Tony Miller, Aaron Hutchins, Michael Wilson, Matt Carlino, Kerry Trotter, Joe Thomas, Oliver Lee, David Boone, Marc Marotta, Mike Moran, Davante Gardner.
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2016, 10:14:07 AM »
You may have missed my point. Al is the best coach from everywhere else. Tex Winter is from Texas, so he couldn't coach the Wisconsin team, the only way he coaches is if you think he's better than Al McGuire.

That's why it's Rick Majerus in Wisconsin. The best head coach Marquette had from Chicagoland is Chandler, though using assistants, Wardle or Wainright could be argued.

Yes I definitely missed your point.

But definitely not chandler, I've made this argument before but chandler was not a good coach he had 4 good seasons out of 20 (maybe more)
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2016, 11:02:26 AM »
Yes I definitely missed your point.

But definitely not chandler, I've made this argument before but chandler was not a good coach he had 4 good seasons out of 20 (maybe more)

Agreed, Chandler had a sub-.500 career record. I'd probably lean towards Jerry, he took two different teams to the NCAA Tournament and three (including DePaul) to the NIT.
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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2016, 03:45:48 PM »
How does MU not have a Chicago recruit make it to campus since Steve Taylor?

There's been surprisingly few MU players from Chicago in recent years. Steve Taylor is the only Chicago-area Marquette recruit in the last 10 years.

Chicago-area MU players since 2000 (not including walk-ons like Tommy Brice, Dylan Flood, etc.)

Steve Taylor (Chicago): 2012-2015
Mo Acker (Hazelcrest): 2006-2010
Jerel McNeal (Chicago/Country Club Hills): 2005-2009
Ousmane Barro (Dakar Senegal by way of Chicago Julian HS): 2004-08
Joe Chapman (Chicago/ Chicago Heights): 2002-2006
Todd Townsend (Chicago): 2001-2005
Dameon Mason (Aurora): 2003-2005
Dwyane Wade (Robbins): 2001-2003
Odartey Blankson (Country Club Hills): 2001-02
Ron Howard (Chicago): 2001-02
Kevin Menard (Frankfort): 2001-02
Cordell Henry (Chicago):1998-2002
Brian Wardle (Clarendon Hills): 1997-2001




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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2016, 04:00:54 PM »
Who was that Blankson fellow?

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2016, 04:04:27 PM »
There's been surprisingly few MU players from Chicago in recent years. Steve Taylor is the only Chicago-area Marquette recruit in the last 10 years.

Chicago-area MU players since 2000 (not including walk-ons like Tommy Brice, Dylan Flood, etc.)

Steve Taylor (Chicago): 2012-2015
Mo Acker (Hazelcrest): 2006-2010
Jerel McNeal (Chicago/Country Club Hills): 2005-2009
Ousmane Barro (Dakar Senegal by way of Chicago Julian HS): 2004-08
Joe Chapman (Chicago/ Chicago Heights): 2002-2006
Todd Townsend (Chicago): 2001-2005
Dameon Mason (Aurora): 2003-2005
Dwyane Wade (Robbins): 2001-2003
Odartey Blankson (Country Club Hills): 2001-02
Ron Howard (Chicago): 2001-02
Kevin Menard (Frankfort): 2001-02
Cordell Henry (Chicago):1998-2002
Brian Wardle (Clarendon Hills): 1997-2001




That's it.

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Re: Who would win a Tournament of MU Greats?
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2016, 06:21:53 PM »
Reggie smith

Also, The Flame was a strong verbal under Buzz to replace Teve.

Novak was born in Libertyville.  And Crean and Buzz where strong second place finishers to many in Chicago. 

 

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