JFB Olympic Bball Thread

[real chili 83]

Jimmy debuts tonight at 5 CST against the Chinese.  Broadcast on NBCSN. 

Too lazy to look, is Yao Ming playing for the commies?

[warriorchick]

Jimmy debuts tonight at 5 CST against the Chinese.  Broadcast on NBCSN. 

Too lazy to look, is Yao Ming playing for the commies?

No.  He hasn't played basketball in any meaningful way in 5 years.

[Slim]

Ex-Buck Yi Jianlian will be playing!

[HoopsterBC]

Ex-Buck Yi Jianlian will be playing!

Who was the idiot GM who picked him?  Between him and Joe Alexander, ouch, and maybe Rashard Vaughn, not sure he is quick enough or good enough.

[wadesworld]

Who was the idiot GM who picked him?  Between him and Joe Alexander, ouch, and maybe Rashard Vaughn, not sure he is quick enough or good enough.

Just look at the Bucks first round picks from about 1999-2011. It's embarrassing.

11 - Jimmer
10 - Sanders
09 - Jennings
08 - Alexander
07 - Yi
06 - no first round pick
05 - Bogut (at 1 overall)
04 - no first round pick
03 - Ford
02 - Hasslip
01 - no first round pick
00 - Collier
99 - no first round pick

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Just look at the Bucks first round picks from about 1999-2011. It's embarrassing.

11 - Jimmer
10 - Sanders
09 - Jennings
08 - Alexander
07 - Yi
06 - no first round pick
05 - Bogut (at 1 overall)
04 - no first round pick
03 - Ford
02 - Hasslip
01 - no first round pick
00 - Collier
99 - no first round pick

Ouch.

[real chili 83]

Butler will get significant pt with 16 point lead and growing. 

[DUNKS45]

Jimmy finishes the fast break for 2 to end the period.

[real chili 83]

Jimmy finishes the fast break for 2 to end the period.

Hey dunks. 

Have you heard any reports from SF this weekend?

[Skatastrophy]

I'm watching the BBC stream of the USA v China game. We just got a Marquette mention when the announcer walked the audience through JFB's backstory.

We've gone international, boys!

[warriorchick]

I'm watching the BBC stream of the USA v China game. We just got a Marquette mention when the announcer walked the audience through JFB's backstory.

We've gone international, boys!

What - American TV isn't good enough for you?

[Skatastrophy]

What - American TV isn't good enough for you?

BBC has no commercials, and they show the full games with minimal chit chat. American TV is way behind the times!

[real chili 83]

What - American TV isn't good enough for you?

We are up by 44. I wonder how many points Vegas was giving?   

[real chili 83]

Ox would be a force in China too.

[naginiF]

SMH - i came here for the "we accidentally went to a brothel" commentary. 

[SaveOD238]

BBC has no commercials, and they show the full games with minimal chit chat. American TV is way behind the times!

I was surprised, but the NBC broadcast only had commercials between quarters.  Thanks McDonalds!

[GGGG]

Ox would be a force in China too.

I would be a force in China.  A fifth of the worlds population and that's the best they can come up with???

[real chili 83]

JFB's next game is Monday at 5 CST against Venezuela. NBCSP

Curious if anyone remembers exactly how the nickname JFB came about.  Was it his senior year?

[4everwarriors]

My hommie, F*ckin', couldn't spell or pronounce Jimmy's middle name. So, he gave him one that he was familiar with, hey?

[Skatastrophy]

JFB's next game is Monday at 5 CST against Venezuela. NBCSP

Curious if anyone remembers exactly how the nickname JFB came about.  Was it his senior year?

ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

I seem to remember this was then solidified as he started to hit a string of game winning shots in just a few short weeks from this thread.

[real chili 83]

ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

Well done. You get a Scoop gold star today.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Look at all the old time scoopers. Whatever happened to Warthog?

[GGGG]

Look at all the old time scoopers. Whatever happened to Warthog?

Warthog = keefe

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Warthog = keefe

Is it really, shoulda known with the poetry.

[real chili 83]

Keefe's had several identities over the years.

[real chili 83]

ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

2009...pre RC83

[MU82]

2009...pre RC83

Pre MU82, too. Look at all the fun we missed!

[muwarrior69]

Well, I guess Marquette does have a great football player.

http://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/17240004/usa-basketball-teammates-klay-thompson-jimmy-butler-go-head-head-football-field

[Brewtown Andy]

I was surprised, but the NBC broadcast only had commercials between quarters.  Thanks McDonalds!

Kind of surprising that the IOC isn't a big fan of media timeouts.

[Benny B]

I would be a force in China.  A fifth of the worlds population and that's the best they can come up with???

Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.

Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball?  Don't they host a tournament, the San Juan Shootout or something like that?

[GGGG]

Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball? 

They do.  Division II.

[Newsdreams]

Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball?  Don't they host a tournament, the San Juan Shootout or something like that?

They did compete D1 for a while, but traveling costs were too muchand there is no fan interest for the local U in basketball. Plus once the PR basketball league was deemed as a pro league it was over. Many of the local college players do play in the local league. The shootout is not hosted by the U and it is played in one of the two main basketball venues where the local pro teams play.

[Newsdreams]

Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.

Can't really do what you are saying. To compete for PR you would either need to have been born here, have family ties (grandparents), lived here and nationalized sportswise and I believe it is after 5 years. If you are born here you can opt to compete for US then can't compete for PR's team. Most of the territories do have national basketball teams but you have to compete in regional tournaments to qualify.
These Olympics for example there were 2 spots already taken in the America's section, Brazil for being host country and US for being world champs & gold medalists. So I think that left like 2 or 3 spots open. These were given in the FIBA Americas tournament where PR missed to qualify even tho we had three NBA or former NBA players on the roster. Even Argentina needed to qualify, Venezuela was the big surprise. Then there was a special tournament the winner out of eight teams qualifies, we were runner up so no Olympics for our basketball team.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

There are some silly eligibility rules. There was a cyclist for the Great Britain team who won a medal for with Kenya in 2012. Not Olympic related, but Diego Costs spent most of his life playing soccer for Brazil, only to start playing for Spain like 3 years ago.

[Jay Bee]

ZFB plays for the other team, a''ina??

[Mutaman]

Jimmy is really on the bit. He just never lets up. Would be nice if they gave him more minutes.

[Benny B]

Can't really do what you are saying. To compete for PR you would either need to have been born here, have family ties (grandparents), lived here and nationalized sportswise and I believe it is after 5 years. If you are born here you can opt to compete for US then can't compete for PR's team. Most of the territories do have national basketball teams but you have to compete in regional tournaments to qualify.
These Olympics for example there were 2 spots already taken in the America's section, Brazil for being host country and US for being world champs & gold medalists. So I think that left like 2 or 3 spots open. These were given in the FIBA Americas tournament where PR missed to qualify even tho we had three NBA or former NBA players on the roster. Even Argentina needed to qualify, Venezuela was the big surprise. Then there was a special tournament the winner out of eight teams qualifies, we were runner up so no Olympics for our basketball team.

What about swimming or gymnastics?  Or track and field?  Gabby mght have won bronze by competing for PR in the all around (hypothetically of course, since then she wouldn't be able to compete in the team competition).

The 5 year rule must be a national committee rule, right?  It would seem that the IOC doesn't have a say.

[Newsdreams]

What about swimming or gymnastics?  Or track and field?  Gabby mght have won bronze by competing for PR in the all around (hypothetically of course, since then she wouldn't be able to compete in the team competition).

The 5 year rule must be a national committee rule, right?  It would seem that the IOC doesn't have a say.

Hahahaha, ok I'll bite and keep playing. We have all those teams(checkers you name it). We have qualified mainly individually for gymnastics over the years and have had a couple of top 10 finishes. We have a top 3 world athlete in 400 mts hurdles, won bronze last Olympics and won the Diamond league (the NBA of track and field) a couple of years ago. Check that event out, right now some of the best athletes in the history of the sport are competing.
We have had people born here or of PR heritage compete for the US teams over the years, but once you go compete for US or PR you have to stay in that delegation so if you do not make it is very hard to get IOC clearance to go back.
Carmelo Anthony is of PR heritage. The year he played NCAA, the basketball delegation tried to convince him to play for the PR team but obviously no.  He currently owns the PR pro soccer team.   
The "5 year" (not sure how many) rule is IOC, I believe national committees can increase but not decrease years. There are other rules like if you emigrate due to political persecution you will be allowed to represent the new host country.   

[real chili 83]

JFB today at 5 versus Australia.

[real chili 83]

USA down by 7 in first quarter. All points by Durant so far.  Team is ice cold. No JFB sightings yet.

[real chili 83]

JFB in for defensive toughness.  Just had a steal and basket, plus 1.  USA up by 15 with JFB in. Durant hot too.

[real chili 83]

JFB and team whoop arse by 27 against Argentina.  Butler was tough tonight.

[brewcity77]

Maybe it's Marquette bias, but Jimmy seemed to make a huge difference tonight. In the first quarter when Argentina was handling us, they brought Jimmy in and he just made plays. Keyed the big run that gave USA the lead they never relinquished. Great game for him.

[real chili 83]

Maybe it's Marquette bias, but Jimmy seemed to make a huge difference tonight. In the first quarter when Argentina was handling us, they brought Jimmy in and he just made plays. Keyed the big run that gave USA the lead they never relinquished. Great game for him.

Jimmy was a warrior tonight. He didn't score the most, but was just plain tough.

[DUNKS45]

Jimmy brought the D today, good to see him get the minutes.

[jsglow]

Jimmy brought the D today, good to see him get the minutes.

Loved the Jimmy/George lineup.  Coach K had seen enough of the entitled superstars giving up layups.

[GGGG]

Loved the Jimmy/George lineup.  Coach K had seen enough of the entitled superstars giving up layups.

Can we just stop with the "entitled superstar" narrative?  Jimmy Butler has a nearly $100 million contract and lives in a River North condo worth something like $5 million.

Yes, his defensive focus is what Team USA needed yesterday and he played a great game.  Let's not make it more than that.

[jsglow]

Can we just stop with the "entitled superstar" narrative?  Jimmy Butler has a nearly $100 million contract and lives in a River North condo worth something like $5 million.

Yes, his defensive focus is what Team USA needed yesterday and he played a great game.  Let's not make it more than that.

Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.

I don't. I think he's just as entitled as the other superstars. But he's our entitled superstar.

[GGGG]

Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.

Based on what?  What leads you to believe that Jimmy "appreciates it" more than others?

[brewcity77]

Jimmy may have been in that camp once, but between the public spats with Rose and his coach, hanging with Hollywood celebs like Mark Wahlberg, I'm pretty sure he's embraced the NBA superstar lifestyle. More power to him, he's earned it, but it's not like he's cut from some different cloth than the other All-stars he's playing with.

[jsglow]

Based on what?  What leads you to believe that Jimmy "appreciates it" more than others?

My simple observation is that the following players on the Olympic team are taking this very seriously:

- Durant
- Anthony
- Butler
- George
- Jordan
- Lowry

At the other end of the scale, can anybody really say that Klay Thompson came mentally ready to play?  None of this has anything to do with their bank account or their NBA lifestyle.  That's the only point I'm trying to make.

[GGGG]

I'm not doubting that some players aren't playing well.  Klay Thompson is obviously one. 

But that doesn't mean he is a more "entitled superstar" than Butler is.  Maybe he's just playing bad.  Or maybe tired after a long year.  Maybe the whole Olympic experience isn't what he expected. 

[BM1090]

I'm not doubting that some players aren't playing well.  Klay Thompson is obviously one. 

But that doesn't mean he is a more "entitled superstar" than Butler is.  Maybe he's just playing bad.  Or maybe tired after a long year.  Maybe the whole Olympic experience isn't what he expected.

Yeah I agree with this. Obviously there are some entitled superstars, but guys like Klay, Draymond, Kyrie, Barnes, Durant, Lowry and Derozan have basically been playing basketball since last October with no breaks. Other than Durant, those are the ones I would say haven't played all that well. Could just be tired.

[Newsdreams]

JFB playing now announcers "the best US team now on the court" and up by 9 1st Qt

[real chili 83]

Missed the game...had to move a kid to college, and hopefully for the last time. 

How did JFB look today?

[MU82]

Missed the game...had to move a kid to college, and hopefully for the last time. 

How did JFB look today?

Quite bad.

Couldn't finish around the rim or on the few jumpers he took,  had a couple good defensive plays but mostly non-factor there, too. K didn't give him much run in the second half.

He'll bounce back strong for the gold.

[jsglow]

Quite bad.

Couldn't finish around the rim or on the few jumpers he took,  had a couple good defensive plays but mostly non-factor there, too. K didn't give him much run in the second half.

He'll bounce back strong for the gold.

Agreed. Wasn't JB's best game.  Still solid on D and passed well. Lots of trouble finishing scoring opportunities.

[Pakuni]

Jimmy thinks he's ready for the NFL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpE0N3y72k&feature=youtu.be

[real chili 83]

Slow start.

[real chili 83]

Now turning into a blowout.

[Newsdreams]

Now turning into a blowout.

Chili my man! Blowout it is...