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MuMark

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Re: Wade
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 06:41:56 PM »
It's a bluff
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Re: Wade
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 06:42:17 PM »
Would love it but don't see it.  If only we had saved the $9M we just ave to Delly...
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Re: Wade
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 07:01:19 PM »

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Re: Wade
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2016, 07:02:36 PM »
Fookin' Bloomin'ton has a better chance of signin' Wade dan da Dears.
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Re: Wade
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 07:14:46 PM »
Fookin' Bloomin'ton has a better chance of signin' Wade dan da Dears.
It would be good for MU if the Bucks sign Wade. Puts us in closer proximity to Zaire.
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Re: Wade
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2016, 08:38:14 PM »
Milwaukee getting clowned by Wade.  Don't fall for it.  Did this same exact thing before the big 3. 

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2016, 08:59:44 PM »
It would be good for MU if the Bucks sign Wade. Puts us in closer proximity to Zaire.
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Re: Wade
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2016, 09:13:39 PM »
Milwaukee getting clowned by Wade.  Don't fall for it.  Did this same exact thing before the big 3. 


So they shouldn't negotiate with free agents even if it means driving up the price for him to go elsewhere?

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Re: Wade
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2016, 09:49:10 PM »
At $20 million/year Wade is absolutely NOT worth it for the Bucks.  The sentimental homecoming and superstar shine will wear off real fast when everyone realizes that he is not the player he once was.  $20M a year to an aging star would be classic Bucks, and it would keep them from being competitive long term.

FWIW I'm a post-Wade MU fan, so I don't have the emotional ties to his career here that many of you all do.  So I guess the question to y'all is... Would you buy more Bucks tickets if Wade was in green and cream?

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2016, 10:00:19 PM »
Rumors are that the Bulls and Wade are talking too.  Bulls been played before.

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2016, 10:02:07 PM »
At $20 million/year Wade is absolutely NOT worth it for the Bucks.  The sentimental homecoming and superstar shine will wear off real fast when everyone realizes that he is not the player he once was.  $20M a year to an aging star would be classic Bucks, and it would keep them from being competitive long term.

FWIW I'm a post-Wade MU fan, so I don't have the emotional ties to his career here that many of you all do.  So I guess the question to y'all is... Would you buy more Bucks tickets if Wade was in green and cream?

1 yes I would buy more tickets
2 20 million to Wade would not stop,the Bucks from competing
3 20 million now is not what it was 3, 5 or 10 years ago...http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/nba-salary-cap-2016-17-94-million-increase-of-34-percent-061816

Ps Kent friggin Bazemore just got 70 million over 4 years
https://twitter.com/sbnationnba/status/749072918412271616
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Re: Wade
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2016, 11:03:34 AM »
The salary cap next year is $94 million.  Ten years ago it was $53 M.  Five years ago it was $58 M.

$20 million isn't the hit it used to be.

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2016, 12:39:02 PM »
This is a courtesy for both sides. Bucks get credibility by nabbing a meeting with a star; Wade gets leverage from having more teams appear to be in the running.

Would be cool to see Wade back in Milwaukee, but with Wade being a ball dominant shooter, hard to see how this fits into the Bucks strategic vision in the short or long term

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2016, 12:41:48 PM »
$20 million is still more than a fifth of the team's budget.  Right now, with just Middleton and Monore getting big money, Delly and Teletovic getting decent contracts (Delly's is almost $10 million), and Parker/Giannis on cheap rookie deals, $20 million seems affordable.  But when Parker and Giannis are due for their extensions and raises, having $20 million tied up in an aging superstar with bad knees could cause one or both to bolt if the Bucks don't have the room to afford them.  If it was one or two years at $20 million, I think Wade is a smart move.  Four or five seems like a big risk.

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2016, 03:24:23 PM »
Delly is a mediocre (at best) NBA player. If there is any chance to have gotten Wade or another far superior player, spending that kind of scratch on Delly is highly questionable.

As for Wade -- if the Bucks really have a chance to get him (which is not super likely), you pay a premium for him if you think he makes your team better in multiple ways.

Those ways:

1. You determine he can still play. He sure looked good most of this past season, including the playoffs. Can he keep playing at a high level for another 2, 3, 4 years?

2. You determine he will be a good mentor to the young players on your roster.

3. You determine he does not have to have the ball all the time. I hear this criticism, but he certainly didn't have the ball all the time when LeBron and even Chalmers were teammates.

If your assessment in those areas says "yes," and if he actually wants to play for you, Wade is a winner and a Hall of Famer with some gas left in the tank.

Those assessments go for teams other than the Bucks, too. Wade probably is most valuable to the Heat, and the Heat also can pay him the most. So it's still difficult to imagine him going elsewhere, but stuff happens.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2016, 03:29:31 PM »
Delly is a mediocre (at best) NBA player. If there is any chance to have gotten Wade or another far superior player, spending that kind of scratch on Delly is highly questionable.

As for Wade -- if the Bucks really have a chance to get him (which is not super likely), you pay a premium for him if you think he makes your team better in multiple ways.

Those ways:

1. You determine he can still play. He sure looked good most of this past season, including the playoffs. Can he keep playing at a high level for another 2, 3, 4 years?

2. You determine he will be a good mentor to the young players on your roster.

3. You determine he does not have to have the ball all the time. I hear this criticism, but he certainly didn't have the ball all the time when LeBron and even Chalmers were teammates.

If your assessment in those areas says "yes," and if he actually wants to play for you, Wade is a winner and a Hall of Famer with some gas left in the tank.

Those assessments go for teams other than the Bucks, too. Wade probably is most valuable to the Heat, and the Heat also can pay him the most. So it's still difficult to imagine him going elsewhere, but stuff happens.
I agree with this analysis.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2016, 10:43:29 PM »
At $20 million/year Wade is absolutely NOT worth it for the Bucks.  The sentimental homecoming and superstar shine will wear off real fast when everyone realizes that he is not the player he once was.  $20M a year to an aging star would be classic Bucks, and it would keep them from being competitive long term.

FWIW I'm a post-Wade MU fan, so I don't have the emotional ties to his career here that many of you all do.  So I guess the question to y'all is... Would you buy more Bucks tickets if Wade was in green and cream?

In today's climate, it is a bargain. Sure beats Noah or Bazemore for $17+ mil.

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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 07:12:56 AM »
Has Wade finished his degree yet?  Is that even any consideration whatsoever?
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2016, 09:44:03 AM »

This is a courtesy for both sides. Bucks get credibility by nabbing a meeting with a star; Wade gets leverage from having more teams appear to be in the running.


If we assume you're right that it's a courtesy to give Wade leverage...if you see it, the NBA GMs surely see it too.

So much for leverage....

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2016, 09:54:58 AM »
Nuggets will make D Wade a very attractive offer. They will give him more years and more money than the Heat.  There is a real possibility he takes their proposal.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2016, 11:36:31 AM »
Nuggets will make D Wade a very attractive offer. They will give him more years and more money than the Heat.  There is a real possibility he takes their proposal.

There is no chance.  The Heat will now give Wade what he wants, and if the Heat had spent their money on Durant Wade would've gone back there to win another Championship.  He was never leaving, just a matter of time.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2016, 11:39:14 AM »
Dwyane Wade averaged 24 points per game last season. While he may not be the "player he once was" he is still a damn good player and better than most guards in the league. Dude can still ball.

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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2016, 11:41:06 AM »
Dwyane Wade averaged 24 points per game last season. While he may not be the "player he once was" he is still a damn good player and better than most guards in the league. Dude can still ball.

No he didn't.
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