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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2016, 11:06:45 AM »

I'm not confused.  I just don't think anyone can declare that he would have "fit in nicely" simply by looking at his height, his experience and who else is (supposedly) recruiting him. 

He may have fit in.  He may be worth a look.  Maybe Wojo & Co. looked and said "eh, no thanks."  Or maybe they reached out and were rebuffed. 

I'm just growing frustrated with the "We need height!  Go get him!" comments whenever someone with any sort of height is available.  Coaches don't build rosters that way.
Anyone with a pulse over 6-9 is automatically someone we want to look at.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2016, 11:09:31 AM »

Reading.  Is.  Fundamental.

I am not frustrated "about people talking about adding a PF / C."

I am frustrated about people assuming a player would be "a good fit" while only having limited information about said player.

Unlike you, I don't think "just a warm body to go in and eat up 5 fouls" would be helpful.  I would rather go small and force the other team to change up than just having some stiff in there who doesn't fit with what Wojo is trying to do.

Hah, yes you are.  A good chunk of people think just about anybody with size would be "a good fit" for the simple fact that this team badly needs another big guy.  If he doesn't work out, so what? Cut him.  There is an empty chair there anyway - nothing hurt. 

I'd obviously prefer to have a guy that isn't a "stiff", but that is why when just about any player that fits that description becomes available, he gets suggested around here.  Even if the guy isn't very good, but Wojo grabs him to have another interior player that can suck up some minutes, it doesn't mean Wojo is forced to play him, or that MU can't play small anyways.  It just insulates the risk of foul trouble for Luke (god forbid) and Matt.  Outside of those two, this team has no size, and both of those two have been very foul prone. 
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2016, 12:09:14 PM »

Sulton,

You would rather "go small and force the other team to change up"?  In other words, a player who fits that style would be a good fit?

How could you say that, in light of the fact that you have no idea if that strategy......

your words coming up.....

"fits what Wojo wants." 


I never claimed that's what Wojo wants.

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2016, 12:59:03 PM »

I never claimed that's what Wojo wants.

Sigh.........actually, you did claim you know exactly what Wojo wants to do:

You wrote:

"I would rather go small and force the other team to change up than just having some stiff in there who doesn't fit with what Wojo is trying to do."

You also, in a very discourteous manner not typical of Marquette brethren, explained to "J to the 5th Power" that reading is fundamental.

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2016, 01:03:46 PM »
Sigh.........actually, you did claim you know exactly what Wojo wants to do:

You wrote:

"I would rather go small and force the other team to change up than just having some stiff in there who doesn't fit with what Wojo is trying to do."


Again you are failing at simple logic.  But keep at it.

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2016, 01:04:35 PM »
Anyone with a pulse over 6-9 is automatically someone we want to look at.
Roman Mueller ring a bell?  Rod Grosse?  Yous Mbao?
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2016, 01:11:41 PM »
Roman Mueller ring a bell?  Rod Grosse?  Yous Mbao?
I said look at. Not take.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2016, 02:02:56 PM »
Not exactly true... and our APR isn't the prettiest (though not in the danger zone).

That was more what I was alluding to. Not perfect, but it's not like we're in UConn territory where we need to worry about the NCAA imposing sanctions.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2016, 11:51:07 PM »
Call me crazy, but he almost has to be committing to NC State, right?

Well he didn't have to...but he did.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2016, 09:19:07 AM »
Well he didn't have to...but he did.

Seemed kind of imminent when the kid who was committed to SMU decommitted while he was on NC State's campus for a visit.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2016, 01:47:45 PM »
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  5h5 hours ago Ross Township, PA
SIU big man Bola Olaniyan has received his release becoming a top grad transfer candidate; averaged 8 points + 9 rebounds last season
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2016, 01:52:52 PM »
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  5h5 hours ago Ross Township, PA
SIU big man Bola Olaniyan has received his release becoming a top grad transfer candidate; averaged 8 points + 9 rebounds last season

Heard we are "sniffing around."
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2016, 01:55:01 PM »
Heard we are "sniffing around."

That is pretty neat.
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« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2016, 01:59:03 PM »
That is pretty neat.

Agreed.  Would be exactly what we need.  Great 1 year holdover.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2016, 02:00:50 PM »
BC77 suggested this several months ago, IIRC.  Impressive.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2016, 02:00:56 PM »
Heard we are "sniffing around."

I heard his name as potential grad transfer target for us awhile ago. Figured it was unlikely at this point. But now that he's an option....would be surprised if we didn't get involved.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2016, 02:04:53 PM »
Olaniyan went to the same high school as Dominic James, so there's that.
Also was suspended last year for the dreaded "violation of team rules."

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« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2016, 05:37:25 PM »
His rebounding percentages make me weep with joy.

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2016, 06:52:23 PM »
Heard we are "sniffing around."

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2016, 08:48:51 AM »
So for you guys 'in the know', how much back channel communication goes on these days about possible grad transfers?  In other words, could this guy's family be hearing that major programs would certainly be calling if you simply requested your release?  And how much of that is clean and above board rather than underhanded and in violation of NCAA rules?

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2016, 10:53:32 AM »
So for you guys 'in the know', how much back channel communication goes on these days about possible grad transfers?  In other words, could this guy's family be hearing that major programs would certainly be calling if you simply requested your release?  And how much of that is clean and above board rather than underhanded and in violation of NCAA rules?

There's a ton of gray area with these, but hypothetically the coach of Big Time University could talk to the AAU coach of Super Sneakers Pump 'N' Dump about a senior he's interested in. Somewhere in the conversation, the coach of BTU mentions that Joe Playmaker, the fourth year junior at East Western State had a killer year and really looked like he could play up a level, and that clearly the AAU coach for Pump 'N' Dump should be proud. And for what it's worth, BTU has two scholarship openings next year. It'd be a violation, but nothing that could be proven.

I'm sure there are some that are above board and just guys testing waters, but some of them are definitely cases where the destination is penciled in before the guy even announces he's leaving.
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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2016, 11:05:11 AM »
There's a ton of gray area with these, but hypothetically the coach of Big Time University could talk to the AAU coach of Super Sneakers Pump 'N' Dump about a senior he's interested in. Somewhere in the conversation, the coach of BTU mentions that Joe Playmaker, the fourth year junior at East Western State had a killer year and really looked like he could play up a level, and that clearly the AAU coach for Pump 'N' Dump should be proud. And for what it's worth, BTU has two scholarship openings next year. It'd be a violation, but nothing that could be proven.

I'm sure there are some that are above board and just guys testing waters, but some of them are definitely cases where the destination is penciled in before the guy even announces he's leaving.


Put it this way.  I think L.G. Gill's transfer was the former.  He wanted to leave the mid major school and he basically reopened his recruitment as a grad transfer.  He took visits and the process took over a month from beginning to end.

I think Katin Reinhardt was more the latter.  I'm not saying that it was a violation of any sort, but I think when he announced he was leaving USC, that Marquette was the very likely destination from the beginning due to his connection with Stan.  I'm sure somehow back-channel talks were happening. 

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Re: Grad Transfer PFs or Cs Left
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2016, 11:10:08 AM »
Heard we are "sniffing around."

Anyone have additional color on this?
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