Author Topic: Vander Summer League (Read 49750 times)

brandx · « **Reply #175 on:** July 09, 2016, 01:25:29 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 08, 2016, 11:23:13 AM

These weird obsessions have got to stop.

Imagine the reaction if Vander and Kostas went one-on-one. There would be exactly one subscriber if it was pay-per-view.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #176 on:** July 09, 2016, 03:11:19 PM »

Quote from: brandx on July 09, 2016, 01:25:29 PM

Imagine the reaction if Vander and Kostas went one-on-one. There would be exactly one subscriber if it was pay-per-view.

I would attend in person.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #177 on:** July 09, 2016, 05:36:58 PM »

Some Vander related commentary from Dallas Fans

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2016/7/9/12135746/a-definitive-ranking-of-the-most-interesting-mavericks-at-summer

Herman Cain · « **Reply #178 on:** July 09, 2016, 09:05:50 PM »

Vander not starting in the Las Vegas league. A bit disappointing. Par for the course with him though.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #179 on:** July 09, 2016, 09:37:00 PM »

Looks like Vander is heading toward a DNP coaches decision tonight. Looks like guys who played in the Orlando league are getting the night off for both teams.

rocket surgeon · « **Reply #180 on:** July 09, 2016, 09:47:14 PM »

Quote from: elephantraker on July 09, 2016, 01:10:45 PM

Watched many D-Fenders games last year and vander was the marquee guy. He was top scorer and averaged somewhere in the mid 20's, if I remember well. I hope he makes it to the Big show but thought his two yrs. in Lakers D- league would have gotten him a contract.

timing/being in the right place at the right time is huge in this league. just wanting to see a fellow warrior do well, that's all. not saying he is getting a raw deal or that he is going to be a star, just sending some warrior love and let the chips fall

Herman Cain · « **Reply #181 on:** July 10, 2016, 01:16:31 PM »

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 09, 2016, 09:47:14 PM

timing/being in the right place at the right time is huge in this league. just wanting to see a fellow warrior do well, that's all. not saying he is getting a raw deal or that he is going to be a star, just sending some warrior love and let the chips fall

I feel he has his head screwed on straight.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/video-vander-blue-on-bringing-leadership-to-the-court/

MerrittsMustache · « **Reply #182 on:** July 11, 2016, 08:21:56 AM »

Quote from: jsglow on July 09, 2016, 09:48:09 AM

I wonder if this is just something where Vander has no SINGLE NBA skill that exceptional enough to allow him to stick as a specialist? My sense is that's how teams decide on their end of bench players.

Exactly. I made this same point in a Vander thread a while back. He's very good at a lot of different things but he has no single skill that's at a consistent NBA level. Unfortunately, that's what he needs to have in order to land as a 10-12th man on an NBA roster.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #183 on:** July 11, 2016, 10:13:12 PM »

Vander got in the game today. 6 points in 18 minutes. 3-10 shooting . 2 assists 2 turnovers. Did not get a chance to watch it.

77ncaachamps · « **Reply #184 on:** July 12, 2016, 12:58:15 PM »

Vegas Summer League is when the big draft names and young rooks get most of their PT.

I was at Las Vegas for Summer League when Wes was drafted, Jerel and DJ were on Summer League teams, and Trend was in town to check them out.

DJ didn't get much PT. Jerel did. Wes did.

It was the summer when Blake Griffin was doling out dunks as the Clippers #1 pick and Jeremy Lin was getting his court burn for the Dubs!

Herman Cain · « **Reply #185 on:** July 12, 2016, 01:47:15 PM »

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 12, 2016, 12:58:15 PM

Vegas Summer League is when the big draft names and young rooks get most of their PT.

I was at Las Vegas for Summer League when Wes was drafted, Jerel and DJ were on Summer League teams, and Trend was in town to check them out.

DJ didn't get much PT. Jerel did. Wes did.

It was the summer when Blake Griffin was doling out dunks as the Clippers #1 pick and Jeremy Lin was getting his court burn for the Dubs!

I think Dallas very fair to Vander in Orlando and gave him max minutes and let him totally showcase himself. Anything he gets in Vegas is gravy.

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #186 on:** July 12, 2016, 07:31:54 PM »

Vander didn't play well at all today.

wadesworld · « **Reply #187 on:** July 12, 2016, 07:48:17 PM »

Vander is a European player, and there's nothing wrong with that. The sooner he realizes it the better. If I had a dollar for every time I said, "There's no room for a shooting guard who can't shoot in the NBA" regarding his game, I'd be a rich man.

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #188 on:** July 12, 2016, 07:54:55 PM »

Quote from: wadesworld on July 12, 2016, 07:48:17 PM

Vander is a European player, and there's nothing wrong with that. The sooner he realizes it the better. If I had a dollar for every time I said, "There's no room for a shooting guard who can't shoot in the NBA" regarding his game, I'd be a rich man.

I know, and I really like Vander too, or at least like him a lot more recently than right after he left MU.

On the other hand, Nader is having a great summer leage. Unbelievably efficient and playing great defense. Giving Stevens and co. something to think about.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #189 on:** July 12, 2016, 08:39:00 PM »

Quote from: wadesworld on July 12, 2016, 07:48:17 PM

Vander is a European player, and there's nothing wrong with that. The sooner he realizes it the better. If I had a dollar for every time I said, "There's no room for a shooting guard who can't shoot in the NBA" regarding his game, I'd be a rich man.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with You.

Vander did well in Orlando when they handed him the car keys, but now that he is in a situation where he is in competition with better players, his deficiencies are being exposed. I feel bad about this as it was probably his best chance to make the league.

In addition to not being able to make his shots, it is very clear he is lacking the physical strength. All of those flashy drives to the basketball are going to be challenged by guys with significant strength in an actual NBA game.

Vander may do well enough to get a training camp deal with some team but that will be it. He could go through life being a D League player and every once in a while getting a 10 day contract when some team is desperate because of injuries, but that is not a great way to live. There is talk of D League pay going up but that has not happened as of yet.

I think he would be far better off financially utilizing his status as a top D League player to get a nice contract in Europe with a team that actually pays their players. DJO, who truly is a much better player than Vander ,has bit the bullet and seems to be enjoying life over there.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #190 on:** July 13, 2016, 05:17:03 PM »

Milwaukee playing Dallas tonight 9 central time.

Thon Maker versus Vander

Herman Cain · « **Reply #191 on:** July 13, 2016, 09:42:10 PM »

Vander can hardly get a break, he scores twice in a row on nice jumpers and the damn ESPN people are interviewing Mark Cuban

cheebs09 · « **Reply #192 on:** July 13, 2016, 10:05:55 PM »

He pushes off with that left arm a lot. His jumper is pretty good now, but he's having a tough time getting to the rim.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #193 on:** July 13, 2016, 11:43:41 PM »

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 13, 2016, 10:05:55 PM

He pushes off with that left arm a lot. His jumper is pretty good now, but he's having a tough time getting to the rim.

He forced quite a few drives and got stripped . When he let the game come to him he made some nice moves to the rack, he is trying his hardest that is for sure .

Herman Cain · « **Reply #194 on:** July 14, 2016, 10:05:36 PM »

Vander summer league game. 9 points on 4 of 9 shooting 5 boards 3 assists in 24 minutes. One more game tomorrow ( this is a correction)

At some point the next news will be if he makes a training camp roster.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #195 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:56:13 PM »

Vander 12 points4 boards in 16 minutes 4-10 from field .

Hopefully he gets some interest from top Euro teams

SaveOD238 · « **Reply #196 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:27:32 PM »

For comparisons sake, former Illini guard Brandon Paul got a partially guaranteed contract with training camp invite from the Sixers. I went to high school with BP and saw him play in college. Vander is bigger and better. He's got to get a training camp invite somewhere!

Herman Cain · « **Reply #197 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:37:13 PM »

Quote from: SaveOD238 on July 18, 2016, 10:27:32 PM

For comparisons sake, former Illini guard Brandon Paul got a partially guaranteed contract with training camp invite from the Sixers. I went to high school with BP and saw him play in college. Vander is bigger and better. He's got to get a training camp invite somewhere!

Vander did well in the Orlando Summer League but he did not do well in the Las Vegas Summer League. On the other hand,Brandon Paul had a good performance in the Las Vegas League. Hopefully, teams look at Vanders full track record the last couple years.

I still believe his future is Overseas. Vander is a very solid player but as many others have pointed out on this site, he does not have that one good to skill that can get him into the NBA permanently.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #198 on:** July 24, 2016, 05:49:51 PM »

An Analysis of the Mavs summer league.

http://allthingsmavs.sportsblog.com/posts/21882779/mavs-summer-league--who-showed-up--who-let-down----who-gets-a-2nd-chance-.html

Will be interesting to see if Vander gets the training camp invite.

Skatastrophy · « **Reply #199 on:** July 24, 2016, 06:00:17 PM »

I'd love for Blue to have an opportunity to be mentored by Wes.

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Author Topic: Vander Summer League (Read 49750 times)

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