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Marcus92

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 10:10:22 AM »
Does Nova have the next Ochefu with Omari Spellman? A 6'9" power forward listed at 275 pounds. Try moving him out of the paint.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 10:52:50 AM »
Does Nova have the next Ochefu with Omari Spellman? A 6'9" power forward listed at 275 pounds. Try moving him out of the paint.
He is a good prospect for them.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 12:44:57 PM »
Roy doesn't like playing the one and done game. Would rather get the best recruits he thinks will play 4 years (like Paige and Johnson). Sometimes they still leave early, but he's not working the same way as K or Cal.

This might be Roy's story, but Paige was part of the Class of 2012. The academic fraud investigation first broke the year before. I'm not the only one who's speculated about the effect on recruiting:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4700271-north-carolina-unc-academic-scandal-roy-williams-recruiting-final-four-marcus-paige

What will the NCAA ultimately decide? Who knows. Personally, I don't care about vacating wins or national titles. Seems like a mostly empty gesture to me. Scholarships, tournament revenue and postseason bans hit schools where it really hurts. With academic fraud so endemic throughout the entire UNC athletic program, I'd be surprised if the basketball team emerges unscathed.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2016, 11:25:14 AM »
Every time MU picks up a top 100 kid on espn they drop down the list and seldom get mentioned
at all, obvious bias against the Big East. For all the people they have following recruiting, the coverage is outdated and poor..

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2016, 11:51:16 AM »
247 composite has him at 39. ESPN is the least reliable site when it comes to recruiting rankings IMHO

I agree with this analysis.

As TAMU himself says, its an opinion, not an analysis.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2016, 11:54:33 AM »
Does Nova have the next Ochefu with Omari Spellman? A 6'9" power forward listed at 275 pounds. Try moving him out of the paint.

No, he'll be better sooner than Ochefu, and probably won't stay four years.
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Herman Cain

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2016, 06:35:20 PM »
As TAMU himself says, its an opinion, not an analysis.
An opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2016, 06:52:09 PM »
An opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.

Sometimes.

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2016, 07:26:15 PM »
An opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.
well, that's an opinion.  Facts often never enter into opinions.    ;)

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2016, 07:51:18 PM »
An opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2016, 08:19:37 PM »
I think that should be:

An informed opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.

People can have plain-old opinions without considering any facts whatsoever. Then there are personal opinions (shaped by one's own experiences and preferences more than objective facts).
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2016, 12:50:52 AM »
I think that should be:

An informed opinion is derived from an analysis of the facts.

People can have plain-old opinions without considering any facts whatsoever. Then there are personal opinions (shaped by one's own experiences and preferences more than objective facts).
I agree with this analysis.
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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2016, 06:08:35 AM »
This might be Roy's story, but Paige was part of the Class of 2012. The academic fraud investigation first broke the year before. I'm not the only one who's speculated about the effect on recruiting:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4700271-north-carolina-unc-academic-scandal-roy-williams-recruiting-final-four-marcus-paige

What will the NCAA ultimately decide? Who knows. Personally, I don't care about vacating wins or national titles. Seems like a mostly empty gesture to me. Scholarships, tournament revenue and postseason bans hit schools where it really hurts. With academic fraud so endemic throughout the entire UNC athletic program, I'd be surprised if the basketball team emerges unscathed.

Entirely possible the scandal has hurt recruiting, but UNC is still pulling down solid classes and getting guys to stay. Even guys recruited before the scandal, Barnes, Marshall, Henson, Hairston, were staying 2-3 years. They had three top-25 recruits in their 2014 class since the scandal and all will be back for their junior years.

Roy may be suffering from the scandal, but I'm sure almost any other coach in the country would happily see their team "suffer" to the tune of a preseason #1 ranking and a run to the Title game where it takes a buzzer beater three to knock you off. Further, with how long this is taking, it seems less and less likely that any sanctions of note will come. Vacating wins and all that, as you say, is pretty meaningless. And Syracuse is proving that scholarships don't necessarily amount to much. It's postseason bans that matter, but my guess is UNC would at most just put a 1-year postseason ban on themselves (like Syracuse and Louisville did before) and skate on all relevant charges.

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2016, 09:21:20 AM »
I agree with this analysis.

But do you agree with that opinion?

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Re: Final rankings for Class of 2016 ESPN 100
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2016, 04:06:55 PM »
Every time MU picks up a top 100 kid on espn they drop down the list and seldom get mentioned
at all, obvious bias against the Big East. For all the people they have following recruiting, the coverage is outdated and poor..

Simply untrue.

 

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