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warriorfan 14

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« on: February 13, 2016, 08:56:44 PM »
So did I miss something? Why was jjj sitting so much at the end. Duane was just terrible, taking wild shots and missing layups. Sandy is very short of confidence. So I have no idea why these 2 were preferred to a player who has been hot the past few games. Wojo's substitution patterns and inconsistencies continue to confuse me. Poor game for wojo in this one.

Frustrated with this loss. It seems that as soon as you gain some hope with this team, they let you down

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Re: JJJ
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 08:58:36 PM »
As I raged at last time... Wojo has a loooooooooooooong way to go in coaching situations.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 08:59:19 PM »
I dont see why the play at the end was to have Wilson shoot the 3. Ridiculous.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 09:01:20 PM »
the possession that really killed us was right out of a timeout we stand around and then henry jacks up a contested 3 with 2 seconds on the shot clock....terrible.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 09:03:01 PM »
the possession that really killed us was right out of a timeout we stand around and then henry jacks up a contested 3 with 2 seconds on the shot clock....terrible.


Called a timeout when there was no reason to.  Creighton changes up defenses and MU doesn't respond.  I don't get why coaches use timeouts in those situations.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2016, 09:03:46 PM »
I dont see why, when down 1 with the shot clock 6 seconds ahead of the game clock you don't foul.

Worst case when fouling: Down 3 with 30 seconds.

Best case when not fouling: Down 1 with 7 seconds left.

I'd take t he worst case when fouling everytime. At least then you can set something up, when you don't foul at best your getting a desperation last second shot.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2016, 09:06:27 PM »
I dont see why, when down 1 with the shot clock 6 seconds ahead of the game clock you don't foul.

Worst case when fouling: Down 3 with 30 seconds.

Best case when not fouling: Down 1 with 7 seconds left.

I'd take t he worst case when fouling everytime. At least then you can set something up, when you don't foul at best your getting a desperation last second shot.


I don't agree.  Marquette gets the rebound of that missed shot and they have a chance to win.  They didn't get the rebound.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 09:06:32 PM »
The last minute was terrible coaching. Stupid timeout that silenced a raucous crowd. Horrible play that resulted in n points. Not fouling when down 1. Just inexplicable.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 09:06:46 PM »
Bad coaching,you have to start a point guard, not Wilson. The bad juju started right out of the gate, we should not lose to these guys at home. We have much more talent and I believe they
scored more points in the paint than we did. He needs to sit Cohen, hes slow and absent.

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 09:07:30 PM »
Maybe doing a Ners impression, but I don't get why our best shooter and one of the best passers on the team got so few minutes, and wasn't in when we needed a score with the game on the line.  Just last game, Wojo praised his consistency and said he was a developing leader.  So give him consistent minutes and don't make him a cheer-leader.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 09:08:22 PM »
Maybe doing a Ners impression, but I don't get why our best shooter and one of the best passers on the team got so few minutes, and wasn't in when we needed a score with the game on the line.  Just last game, Wojo praised his consistency and said he was a developing leader.  So give him consistent minutes and don't make him a cheer-leader.


I agree with this.  JJJ has been playing great lately.  Can't figure out why he wasn't on the floor more.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 09:08:58 PM »
The last minute was terrible coaching. Stupid timeout that silenced a raucous crowd. Horrible play that resulted in n points. Not fouling when down 1. Just inexplicable.

You want them to foul with a 9 second differential on shot clock? Are you mental. Fischer is soft, he sucks. Grab a rebound.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 09:09:20 PM »
Maybe doing a Ners impression, but I don't get why our best shooter and one of the best passers on the team got so few minutes, and wasn't in when we needed a score with the game on the line.  Just last game, Wojo praised his consistency and said he was a developing leader.  So give him consistent minutes and don't make him a cheer-leader.
I Agree with this analysis.
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Re: JJJ
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 09:09:39 PM »

I don't agree.  Marquette gets the rebound of that missed shot and they have a chance to win.  They didn't get the rebound.

But even if Marquette gets the rebound, there is zero time to setup. It's literally just a bumrush for the last shot.

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 09:10:48 PM »
The last minute was terrible coaching. Stupid timeout that silenced a raucous crowd. Horrible play that resulted in n points. Not fouling when down 1. Just inexplicable.
Disagree. They get board they are one shot from win

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016, 09:11:08 PM »
But even if Marquette gets the rebound, there is zero time to setup. It's literally just a bumrush for the last shot.


8 seconds with a timeout is enough time IMO.  But I can see your POV.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016, 09:12:57 PM »

8 seconds with a timeout is enough time IMO.  But I can see your POV.

I just feel like being down at most 3 points with 40-30 seconds (forgot exact time) is alot better then down 1 with 8.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016, 09:29:06 PM »
The last minute was terrible coaching. Stupid timeout that silenced a raucous crowd. Horrible play that resulted in n points. Not fouling when down 1. Just inexplicable.
If they get the rebound, it's a mood point. MU, didn't even run the play that was talked about in the huddle.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016, 09:31:28 PM »
You want them to foul with a 9 second differential on shot clock? Are you mental. Fischer is soft, he sucks. Grab a rebound.

With that much time? Absogoddamnlutely. I'd rather be down 3 with 35 seconds than down 1 with 8 seconds. We gave that game away.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016, 09:35:34 PM »
the possession that really killed us was right out of a timeout we stand around and then henry jacks up a contested 3 with 2 seconds on the shot clock....terrible.

According to Wojo on postgame show, team did not listen in the huddle and did not run the play that was called - was supposed to be a post up to Luke, but they did not even run the play.  Is that on the coaches or the players?

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 09:38:53 PM »
According to Wojo on postgame show, team did not listen in the huddle and did not run the play that was called - was supposed to be a post up to Luke, but they did not even run the play.  Is that on the coaches or the players?

If it was unclear - the coaches.  If it was mutiny or coaching was ignored - the coaches. If they got distracted or confused on the court - the players.

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 09:45:20 PM »
According to Wojo on postgame show, team did not listen in the huddle and did not run the play that was called - was supposed to be a post up to Luke, but they did not even run the play.  Is that on the coaches or the players?

Heard this a lot from him post game. Simple answer: The entire team is to blame, of which he leads. Really poor response. If they aren't listening, put in the lineup who is.  Blame is for losers.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 09:46:40 PM »
Heard this a lot from him post game. Simple answer: The entire team is to blame, of which he leads. Really poor response. If they aren't listening, put in the lineup who is.  Blame is for losers.


Yeah this is it.  Exactly.  It's not the coach OR the players.  It's the coach AND the players.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 09:47:56 PM »
If they get the rebound, it's a mood point. MU, didn't even run the play that was talked about in the huddle.

And if that's the case, it's again on the coaches. If the boss can't get enough buy in to effectively convey their message, they're doing something wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 09:50:19 PM »
And if that's the case, it's again on the coaches. If the boss can't get enough buy in to effectively convey their message, they're doing something wrong.
Your over thinking this. So, don't call a timeout. If, Marquette put up a bad shot without calling a timeout, everyone would say, why didn't you call a timeout.
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