collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

NIL Future by Tyler COLEk
[April 18, 2024, 10:58:58 PM]


2024 Transfer Portal by Herman Cain
[April 18, 2024, 10:58:45 PM]


2024 NCAA Tournament Thread by MU82
[April 18, 2024, 09:51:16 PM]


2024 Coaching Carousel by WhiteTrash
[April 18, 2024, 09:34:43 PM]


Maximilian Langenfeld by TSmith34, Inc.
[April 18, 2024, 09:22:20 PM]


MU Gear by TallTitan34
[April 18, 2024, 07:27:40 PM]


Recruiting as of 3/15/24 by Uncle Rico
[April 18, 2024, 05:33:25 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: Great effort MU  (Read 10448 times)

Norm

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2369
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2016, 01:21:26 PM »
Yes, good effort. But its still a loss. Right now 2 of their 4 wins are against bottom dweller St. John's, 2-7 against everyone else.

WayOfTheWarrior

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 277
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2016, 01:24:38 PM »
Yes, good effort. But its still a loss. Right now 2 of their 4 wins are against bottom dweller St. John's, 2-7 against everyone else.

This is sort of how I see it, too. But I mean, my hopes for making any sort of tournament kind of died after that loss to Seton Hall on Wed. And considering I was thinking this game wouldn't be close, especially if X played well, this was a delightful surprise.

bilsu

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 8817
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2016, 01:24:54 PM »
The game turned when Wojo took Ellenson out with a little over 8 minutes to go and kept him on the bench until we were down.

wadesworld

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 17526
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2016, 01:26:26 PM »
How bad will this team be next year without Ellenson?  REALLY REALLY BAD.

And it will cost $12-15 million. Can't wait for that news release from the NY Times.

How much does your basketball program to have the lowest graduation rate of all schools in the NCAA Tournament?  Just curious.
Rocket Trigger Warning (wild that saying this would trigger anyone, but it's the world we live in): Black Lives Matter

ChitownSpaceForRent

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6315
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2016, 01:28:38 PM »
Bring out the BAN HAMMER! (Doesn't someone have that gif)

MattyWarrior

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1655
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2016, 01:29:54 PM »
Wilson had 7 tos and 16 points, a real wash. Who was watching Macura rain 3s wide open? Haney
and Cohen played fine.

NavinRJohnson

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4209
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2016, 01:32:05 PM »
The game turned when Wojo took Ellenson out with a little over 8 minutes to go and kept him on the bench until we were down.

My thoughts exactly, though I take it step further...he took Carter out at the same time. Was a huge mistake. Went ffrom 6 up, to 2 down in a minute. Offense can't function. Were  outscored by 14 from that point.  Coach needs to figure it out. For all the scoring Cheetham did, he added 1 asst.,  5 TOs and 5 fouls - negating much of his scoring. Carter, had 7 asst and 2 TOs. He needs to play more. The Cheetham PG experience is not working. I think Wojo has mishandled the PT distribution/substitutions of Carter and Cheetham (and to some extent Wilson) all season.

susie90

  • Scholarship Player
  • **
  • Posts: 57
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2016, 01:35:40 PM »
Turning point was stupid alley-oop attempt with game tied! 3 on 1 and we try that?

MattyWarrior

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1655
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2016, 01:40:01 PM »
How many guys get their career highs vs. us. Macura, non-athletic shooter.

BM1090

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5857
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2016, 01:43:14 PM »
How many guys get their career highs vs. us. Macura, non-athletic shooter.

Not really fair though since someone getting their career high usually means we are doing a good job at shutting down the primary options.

WarriorPride68

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 01:49:41 PM »
Quote from: exercisevanity on Today at 01:16:15 PM

Another moral victory for the team that spends the fourth most on basketball in the NCAA! Way to go guys, pat on the back. Maybe a few more years under Wojohousekey and the Golden Eagles will make some noise in the NIT? Or is that asking too much for $12 million dollars per year? GREAT EFFORT. Not per dollar, but I guess if you pretend like we have the budget of Coach Taylor and the East Dillon Panthers, losing to Xavier by only eight isn't too bad. Hey, for $12 million, Marquette didn't lose by as much as Vegas said, and that right there is a moral victory in my book. And let's not forget, nobody on the basketball team has raped anyone yet this year!


Marcus92

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2016, 01:52:35 PM »
The key stat of the game is 20 turnovers. That's a killer. You just won't win many games giving away that many possessions.

Granted, Marquette plays an aggressive, driving, push the ball style. Seems reasonable to expect that we'd turn the ball over more than the average team. But we're dead last in the Big East.

We shot 55% (with a 63% effective FG% counting 3s) and still lost by 8. Cut down those 20 turnovers to say 14, and that translates into 7-8 more points. Chances are you prevent at least one of Xavier's transition baskets. Maybe you get an offensive board or foul out Bluiett or Macura.

Got to give Xavier credit. But not taking care of the ball took us out of this game.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 01:54:07 PM by Marcus92 »
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

RushmoreAcademy

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1387
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 01:57:23 PM »
Yes, good effort. But its still a loss. Right now 2 of their 4 wins are against bottom dweller St. John's, 2-7 against everyone else.


WarriorPride68

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2016, 01:59:08 PM »
Turning point was stupid alley-oop attempt with game tied! 3 on 1 and we try that?

Susie, good call. That play killed my soul  :'(

Frenns Liquor Depot

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3190
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2016, 01:59:45 PM »
Turning point was stupid alley-oop attempt with game tied! 3 on 1 and we try that?

That was a killer -- first Cohen laid up instead of attacking 3 on 1 - then threw it away.

This was a good game by the team though.  It's the progress I had hoped to see this time of year.   HE is really becoming the man. Now need some consistency and play the same next week.

Marcus92

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2016, 01:59:52 PM »
Another bright spot — Carter had 7 assists and just 2 turnovers.
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

ATL MU Warrior

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2807
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2016, 02:00:54 PM »
The game turned when Wojo took Ellenson out with a little over 8 minutes to go and kept him on the bench until we were down.
no, game turned on traci's airball from the corner.  X scored 8 straight and went from down 6 to up 2.  Ballgame.

Dr. Blackheart

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13061
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2016, 02:23:11 PM »
MU won three of the four factors including eFG%, despite X's hot hand.  In fact, it was the best MU eFG% game so far in conference play this season. That said, this was the worst turnover rate game-either in or out of conference-the entire season. Turning it over on 27% of your possessions gets you a 22-9 hole to dig out of. Hard to do on the road.

Great team effort. I thought Luke was outstanding putting Farr on the bench, but MU got away from getting it to him with all the turns which led to quick points on the other end, many of them uncontested threes. No double double for Henry but that was because X was hitting the threes. End of the day, curtains by their own hand which we have seen all year by the young team. 

They can hold their heads high. Let's defend the home court for two, and then settle a score in Rosemont to get back into this thing!

nyg

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 7493
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2016, 02:23:53 PM »
65-65, Cohen on 3 on 1 break, threw it away.  Then he fouled on other end.  Big turnaround there.

Great rebounding effort today by the boys.

I'll take Cheatham on my team anyday, even with some bad turnovers.  He has balls and tenacity.

Traci of old came today, some terrible shots, just terrible.

Duane also, had 7 turnovers.

Hey, lets leave Mecura open for a three, or Bluitt........man can they shoot.

Can't win many games with 20 turnovers.  That was the ballgame, along with when Henry went out. 

UticaBusBarn

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 397
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2016, 02:26:20 PM »

Maybe it is this observer, but it seems Wilson is never in the flow. When he is in there, he seems to be playing by himself. He had seven turnovers and one assist.

Has he become a "chucker" and little more?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 7807
  • Js for days
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2016, 02:33:06 PM »
great game. Had our chances just too many turnovers. MU is a good team, just had things stacked against them this year being so Young and with the schedule. But I could also see this team surprising some people in BET. Let's rattle of a few in a row here.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

WarriorPride68

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2016, 02:34:23 PM »
I didn't notice this as much as the final box score indicated. But surprising seeing JJJ played the least minutes of the rotation guys today (19 min) & he didn't have a foul.

8 pts, 3-6 (1-1 3P), 4 reb, 1 stl, 1 ast, 2 blks

He's been our stud last couple weeks

NavinRJohnson

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4209
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2016, 02:34:54 PM »
no, game turned on traci's airball from the corner.  X scored 8 straight and went from down 6 to up 2.  Ballgame.

 That's just silly. That's like saying MU's 17-1 run was the result of whomever missed Xavier's last shot prior to it starting. Do you remember that shot? me neither.

My memory isn't so good, but I  don't even think Xavier scored off of the miss. I believe there was a dead ball, at which time Ellenson and Carter were removed.  That was the mistake  that led to the 8-0 run, from which MU never fully recovered.

bilsu

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 8817
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2016, 02:37:51 PM »
That was a killer -- first Cohen laid up instead of attacking 3 on 1 - then threw it away.

This was a good game by the team though.  It's the progress I had hoped to see this time of year.   HE is really becoming the man. Now need some consistency and play the same next week.
The last few games Cohen has been called for a charge in similar type situations. I think he recognized that, but the pass was not a good idea.

79Warrior

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4094
Re: Great effort MU
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2016, 02:43:06 PM »
Clock hit 0 before the ball even hit Luke's hands.

This game was lost on turnovers.

 

feedback