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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2016, 01:09:20 PM »
Butler win over DePaul helpful for Big East , want to keep them in ratings.

Creighton beats Georgetown  at home. Great fan support really helps Creighton .

I was surprised by all of the empty seats at the Creighton game last night.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2016, 03:14:32 PM »
I was surprised by all of the empty seats at the Creighton game last night.
The 1k scattered through the upper deck?

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2016, 03:29:06 PM »
CR & SH stepping up. GT really is better than their record. DP & SJ can give people a good game. PV, X and V can be beaten. MU will hang. BT good but 1-2.

BE will be a real tough grind.

Predict: everyone will have 2+ losses at the break, no-one better than 14-4 at the end. and everyone except DP and SJ will be 7-11 or better.

something like:
14   4
13   5
12   6
11   7
10   8
9   9   -- this is MU
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7   11
4   14
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2016, 03:34:11 PM »
The 1k scattered through the upper deck?

There were probably 100-ish empty seats in the lower bowl on camera the whole game. Really weird.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2016, 03:42:42 PM »
The 1k scattered through the upper deck?

There were plenty of empty seats down low behind the baskets and along the court, in fact so many I commented how those seats look to be nice padded seats vs. the BC seats. I even checked the reported attendance of roughly 16,500 vs. capacity and thought 16,500 is seats sold just like the BC.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2016, 05:19:20 PM »
My guess is that he means is it is good for the league to get as many teams into the tourney as possible, so whatever results get us there.   

The top 4 (Nova, X, Providence, Butler) should all be locks barring epic collapses. 

The next three (Seton Hall, Georgetown, and MU) all have the potential to make the tourney through a combo of winning against the bottom three (Creighton, St. John's, DePaul), splitting against the other middle teams, and stealing some wins against the top 4.  You could possibly include Creighton in this group as well, but having 4 teams in that middle tier at the end of the season probably hurts the league overall, as we won't get 8 teams in the tourney.  Even seven is probably tough, so probably better for the league overall if at least two of this group fades as the season goes--for MU, that means rooting against Creighton, G'town, and the Hall, in that order.   For the rest of the league, you probably want to see the Hall to do the best, then MU, then G'town, then Creighton (in terms of signature wins OOC).

So, we want to see St. John's, DePaul, and possibly Creighton all go winless this season except against each other, so that the other seven teams all have a minimum of 6 conference wins.

Then, you want to see the Hall, G'town, and MU steal a few wins against the top 4 to bolster the middle teams' resumes.  Although, you may not want them to steal too many, as that might drop one or more of those top teams into the middle tier and potentially out of the Top 25 (which is important for league exposure). 

Our win against Providence is good for the league because it elevates our status, while not hurting Providence too much if they can turn around against Creighton on Saturday.  If Butler lost last night to DePaul, dropping them to 0-3 to start the season, they likely would have been dropped from Top 25 and would be dropped into the middle tier (especially with their big game against Nova this weekend).

This is pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking.

 I was kind of hoping Georgetown would have gotten a road win against Creighton. But on the other hand a couple decent Creighton wins makes a future win over them bit more meaningful.  So hopefully  The Hall can come up with a road win versus them Sunday.

I would really like to see The Big East get 6 bids again this year. So we need the four ranked guys to be rock solid and then the next three to be highly competitive.

Looking for Butler to pick up a win against Villanova this weekend. They have played the tough teams up front and will have a string of easier opponents to beat (except us of course). 

This gets into a lot of permutations quickly. At the end of the day,MU needs to hold serve at home and pick off a couple of more road wins.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2016, 10:45:28 PM »
Xavier had to work hard to beat St.Johns tonight. Shows how hard it is to get a road win in the Big East. The Johnnies are real scrappers.

Villanova won at home against the Hall. Survived a poor shooting night.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2016, 04:03:20 PM »
Saturday Games
St. Johns at Marquette 1 CT FS Wisconsin etc

Creighton at Seton Hall 1:00 CT FS1

http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2016/01/08/three-keys-seton-hall-vs-creighton/78500846/

Depaul at Georgetown   11 CT FS1

http://www.casualhoya.com/2016/1/8/10735666/georgetown-hoyas-depaul-blue-demons-game-preview-sleeping-with-the-enemy


It would be best for MU if Seton Hall and Georgetown add to their win totals. If Creighton wins then we need to start watching them closely for signs of tournament viability.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2016, 09:13:18 AM »
Xavier had to work hard to beat St.Johns tonight. Shows how hard it is to get a road win in the Big East. The Johnnies are real scrappers.

Just read that Chris Mack tied Skip Prosser for second all time in Xavier coaching wins in that game with 148. What amazes me is the all time leader at Xavier is Pete Gillen with 202. For comparison, Al had 404 wins at Marquette.

For all our disappointments at being a stepping stone job in the past, Xavier's two winningest coaches both left for better jobs, and Mack has been rumored elsewhere in the past. Mack is still a young coach (46) and would likely pass Gillen if he stays two more years. Crazy to think that for a relatively prominent program and a young coach.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2016, 05:04:21 PM »
Creighton over Seton Hall, a nice road win for them. Georgetown holds serve at home versus DePaul . Looks like the battle for 5th and 6th in the league is going to be a tough one.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2016, 05:16:06 PM »
Creighton over Seton Hall, a nice road win for them. Georgetown holds serve at home versus DePaul . Looks like the battle for 5th and 6th in the league is going to be a tough one.

I've seen MU fans saying that we should be okay if we sweep SJU, DePaul, and Creighton. My guess is Creighton is thinking the same about us. After today, I'm convinced there are no easy games outside Stetson.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2016, 02:45:37 PM »
Just read that Chris Mack tied Skip Prosser for second all time in Xavier coaching wins in that game with 148. What amazes me is the all time leader at Xavier is Pete Gillen with 202. For comparison, Al had 404 wins at Marquette.

For all our disappointments at being a stepping stone job in the past, Xavier's two winningest coaches both left for better jobs, and Mack has been rumored elsewhere in the past. Mack is still a young coach (46) and would likely pass Gillen if he stays two more years. Crazy to think that for a relatively prominent program and a young coach.

Xavier was actually pretty pathetic prior to Gillen.  There's a quote from Al about it being important to play cupcakes like Xavier early in the season.

Since Gillen, the story has been quite different.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2016, 03:20:49 PM »
Butler key player Roosevelt Jones injured wrist and questionable for tonights game with Villanova.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/butler-bulldogs-roosevelt-jones-questionable-writst-injury-villanova-wildcats-010916

Villanova at Butler 7:30  Eastern FS1

Would be best for MU and Big East  if Butler won.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2016, 03:33:15 PM »
Butler key player Roosevelt Jones injured wrist and questionable for tonights game with Villanova.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/butler-bulldogs-roosevelt-jones-questionable-writst-injury-villanova-wildcats-010916

Villanova at Butler 7:30  Eastern FS1

Would be best for MU and Big East  if Butler won.

Ehh, I don't want to go into Nova with them just coming off a loss.

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« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2016, 03:34:16 PM »
Xavier was actually pretty pathetic prior to Gillen.  There's a quote from Al about it being important to play cupcakes like Xavier early in the season.

Since Gillen, the story has been quite different.
Here is Xaviers record since 1982. Since this time they have been one of the top tier and highly respected programs in College basketball. I was delighted when they selected to be part of the Big East.

Year-by-year breakdown since 1982[edit]
Year           Record   Conference                   Postseason            Attendance / sellouts
2014–15   23-14   9-9 (Sixth in Big East)   NCAA Sweet 16           9,998 (9/16)
2013–14   21-12   10-8 (Third in Big East)   NCAA Tournament   9,929 (7/16)
2012–13   17-14   9-7 (Sixth in A–10)                                       9,781
2011–12   21-12   10-6 (T-Third in A–10)   NCAA Sweet 16           10,154 (10/16)
2010–11   24–8            15–1 (First in A–10)           NCAA Tournament   10,098 (9/16)
2009–10   26–9   14–2 (T–First in A–10)            NCAA Sweet 16            10,123 (7/15)
2008–09   27–8   12–4 (First in A–10)                   NCAA Sweet 16              10,097 1/15)
2007–08   30–7   14–2 (First in A–10)                   NCAA Elite Eight            10,008 (9/17)
2006–07   25–9   13–3 (T–First in A–10)           NCAA Second Round   9,910 (5/15)
2005–06   21–11   8–8 (T–Seventh in A–10)*   NCAA Tournament   9,775 (4/15)
2004–05   17–12   10–6 (T–Second in A–10 West)                      10,027 (7/16)
2003–04   26–11   10–6 (T–Third in A–10 West)*   NCAA Elite Eight    9,902 (8/16)
2002–03   26–6   15–1 (First in A–10 West)           NCAA Second Round   10,181 (14/15)
2001–02   26–6   14–2 (First in A–10 West)*           NCAA Second Round   10,224 (13/14)
2000–01   21–8   12–4 (T–Second in A–10)          NCAA Tournament   10,072 (12/14)
1999–00   21–12   9–7 (T–Second in A–10 West)   NIT Second Round 9,072 (4/15)
1998–99   25–11   12–4 (Second in A–10 West)   NIT Third Place   9,540 (6/16)
1997–98   22–8   11–5 (T–First in A–10 West)*        NCAA Tournament   9,924 (10/14)
1996–97   23–6   13–3 (First in A–10 West)                NCAA Second Round 9,436 (5/14)
1995–96   13–15   8–8 (Third in A–10 West)                             8,871 (5/14)
1994–95   23–5   14–0 (First in MCC)                    NCAA Tournament   8,201(2/14)
1993–94   22–8   8–2 (First in MCC)   NIT Quarterfinals                  6,943 (1/16)
1992–93   24–6   12–2 (T–First in MCC)                 NCAA Second Round   7,236 (1/13)
1991–92   15–12   7–3 (T–Second in MCC)                              8,296 (1/14)
1990–91   22–10   11–3 (First in MCC)*      NCAA Second Round   6,812 (1/15)
1989–90   28–5   12–2 (First in MCC)                   NCAA Sweet 16                7,757 (2/14)
1988–89   21–12   7–5 (Third in MCC)*         NCAA Tournament        4,411 (0/15)
1987–88   26–4   9–1 (First in MCC)*                 NCAA Tournament        5,853 (1/15)
1986–87   19–13   7–5 (T–Third in MCC)*   NCAA Second Round        3,213 (0/15)
1985–86   25–5   10–2 (First in MCC)*                  NCAA Tournament       5,171 (1/14)
1984–85   16–13   7–7 (Fifth in MCC)                                          4,644 (0/13)
1983–84   22–11   9–5 (Third in MCC)           NIT Quarterfinals          4,78(0/15)
1982–83   22–8   10–4 (T–Second in MCC)*         NCAA Tournament   3,002 (0/15)
"*"Indicates won conference tournament championship.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2016, 06:56:38 PM »
Butler key player Roosevelt Jones injured wrist and questionable for tonights game with Villanova.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/butler-bulldogs-roosevelt-jones-questionable-writst-injury-villanova-wildcats-010916

Villanova at Butler 7:30  Eastern FS1

Would be best for MU and Big East  if Butler won.
Roosevelt Jones in  line up tonight. Butler crowd fired up tonight .
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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2016, 07:09:16 PM »
Roosevelt Jones in  line up tonight. Butler crowd fired up tonight .

Exciting game - March-like intensity!

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« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2016, 08:32:17 PM »
Exciting game - March-like intensity!
Villanova wins. Butler had chance to tie but missed 3 pointer.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2016, 03:40:34 PM »
This weeks rankings are good for Big East again.
6. Villanova
7. Xavier
12. Providence
23. Butler

Butler has drawn a tough early schedule  so they have an opportunity to work their way back up.

We want as many of these times as highly ranked as possible. That way when we beat them it is considered a quality win.  Basically rooting for them until they play us. 
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« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2016, 01:01:37 PM »
Really curious to see what happens between Creighton and Providence tonight. Creighton coming off an impressive road win thereby announcing themselves as contenders in the BE and Providence coming off the underwhelming loss to our boys. 

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« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2016, 01:41:00 PM »
Really curious to see what happens between Creighton and Providence tonight. Creighton coming off an impressive road win thereby announcing themselves as contenders in the BE and Providence coming off the underwhelming loss to our boys.

I hope PC gives them a shellacking

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« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2016, 02:45:30 PM »
Really curious to see what happens between Creighton and Providence tonight. Creighton coming off an impressive road win thereby announcing themselves as contenders in the BE and Providence coming off the underwhelming loss to our boys.

Sorry to nitpick but beating the Hall in a game where their three studs were benched for 60% of the second half doesn't exactly scream title contender to me. And certainly not 10 days into January.

Creighton is better then the basement they were predicted to be living in but they aren't winning this conference.

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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2016, 03:35:17 PM »
Creighton won't win the league, but they are a legit tourney contender. I think the Big East has an outside chance at 7 teams this year.
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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2016, 04:12:02 PM »
Sorry to nitpick but beating the Hall in a game where their three studs were benched for 60% of the second half doesn't exactly scream title contender to me. And certainly not 10 days into January.

Creighton is better then the basement they were predicted to be living in but they aren't winning this conference.
I didn't realize that. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that Creighton could win the conference. "Contender" was just expression to convey that they can probably play with anyone in the league.

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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2016, 04:36:42 PM »
Xavier was actually pretty pathetic prior to Gillen.  There's a quote from Al about it being important to play cupcakes like Xavier early in the season.

Since Gillen, the story has been quite different.

Now we're the cupcake.