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How many years do you think Henry Ellenson will play at Marquette?

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ChicosBailBonds

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2015, 03:22:25 PM »
Quote from: keefe on August 15, 2015, 01:48:39 AM
You obviously do because:

A. You replied

B. You are second only to Chico in terms of activity

On a per day activity, I'm second.   I've been on the board a lot longer.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2015, 03:44:24 PM »
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 15, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
On a per day activity, I'm second.   I've been on the board a lot longer.

Jams,

Embrace it, man! Wear it with pride!

Reminds me of the joke about the Scotsman at his first baseball game. When someone explains to him that when a man has four balls he gets to walk to first the Scotsman stands and yells, "FOUR BALLS!!!! RUN WITH PRIDE, LADDIE!"
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2015, 05:16:14 PM »
Probably gotta wait 5 years to judge, ai na?
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2015, 08:55:57 AM »
HE will transfer to IA State
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2015, 09:00:31 AM »
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but has MU ever had a one-and-done? Would Henry be our first?
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2015, 09:38:50 AM »
Quote from: Grayson Allen on August 16, 2015, 09:00:31 AM
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but has MU ever had a one-and-done? Would Henry be our first?

Good question.  No player has come to MU as a Frosh and immediately left for the NBA. Those who left early include Chones, Doc, DWade and perhaps a few others.  DWade is the only one in the last 30 years to the best of my recollection. He had spent 3 years on campus, two on the active roster.  I believe he had one year of remaining eligibility.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2015, 09:51:15 AM »
Quote from: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
Good question.  No player has come to MU as a Frosh and immediately left for the NBA. Those who left early include Chones, Doc, DWade and perhaps a few others.  DWade is the only one in the last 30 years to the best of my recollection. He had spent 3 years on campus, two on the active roster.  I believe he had one year of remaining eligibility.
DWade actually had 2 years of eligibility as he himself pointed out.  He did well enough academically to earbn back that 1st year.  But, well, that's all academic... ;)
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2015, 10:41:43 AM »
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 16, 2015, 09:51:15 AM
DWade actually had 2 years of eligibility as he himself pointed out.  He did well enough academically to earbn back that 1st year.  But, well, that's all academic... ;)

Interesting.  Hadn't known that the Frosh year could be earned back.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2015, 11:47:41 AM »
Quote from: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 10:41:43 AM
Interesting.  Hadn't known that the Frosh year could be earned back.
That was under Prop 48 or whatever it was then.  Not sure what rules might apply today.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2015, 11:56:14 AM »
Quote from: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
DWade is the only one in the last 30 years to the best of my recollection.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2015, 11:57:15 AM »
Quote from: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
Those who left early include Chones, Doc, DWade and perhaps a few others.

Lucas, McNeill...

The real loss was that when McNeill left early so, too, did his wife. Fights in the stands during Marquette games dropped precipitously
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2015, 08:32:07 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3URz2tmuos4

Some highlights from the first two games...
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2015, 09:22:43 PM »
Quote from: junglecat022 on August 16, 2015, 08:32:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3URz2tmuos4

Some highlights from the first two games...

Very nice video. Thanks for sharing
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2015, 09:39:15 PM »
I'm thinking he's a 6 and 3 guy this year and needs at least 3 seasons in college to hone his skillset, a'ina?
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2015, 11:39:21 AM »
I hope he is good enough to be one and done. Next hope is we get more guys that good in upcoming recruiting classes.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2015, 11:41:44 AM »
Quote from: Goose on August 17, 2015, 11:39:21 AM
I hope he is good enough to be one and done. Next hope is we get more guys that good in upcoming recruiting classes.

I am hoping he is good enough to be a one and done. But then stays to be a two and champ.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2015, 11:51:40 AM »
Quote from: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
Good question.  No player has come to MU as a Frosh and immediately left for the NBA. Those who left early include Chones, Doc, DWade and perhaps a few others.  DWade is the only one in the last 30 years to the best of my recollection. He had spent 3 years on campus, two on the active roster.  I believe he had one year of remaining eligibility.


Vander and mayo
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2015, 11:59:37 AM »
Quote from: keefe on August 16, 2015, 11:57:15 AM
Lucas, McNeill...

The real loss was that when McNeill left early so, too, did his wife. Fights in the stands during Marquette games dropped precipitously

First, we have NEVER had a one-and-done.

Second, if both of these guys had stayed -- along with Jim Chones -- there would have been multiple National Championship banners hanging.

McNeill should not have left early. He is an interesting lesson for Henry. He was a strong enough player to be drafted but not strong enough to be an NBA stud. He averaged about 8.1 points per game in his career and 17.2 minutes playing time per game. Had he stayed in 1973-1974, he might well have been the difference in Marquette being able to tame David Thompson and NC State. I think we missed him far more than the NBA wanted him.

Henry looks like he has it all. But, how much seasoning does he need before headed for the NBA? Dean Smith, back in Michael Jordan's day, would argue that his players should turn pro early if they would be drafted with one of the first half dozen choices in the NBA draft. His insights were from ex-Carolina players and his relationships in the NBA and usually were pretty good. Below that, the player would be a bench-sitter.

Time will tell but lets enjoy it while we can.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2015, 12:14:30 PM »
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2015, 12:27:45 PM »
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2015, 12:45:34 PM »
HE is one and done.  Anything can happen, but I fully expect him to be gone.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2015, 01:00:19 PM »
Quote from: theburreffect2 on August 17, 2015, 11:51:40 AM

Vander and mayo

I think the caveat is those who left and played in The Show
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2015, 01:02:44 PM »
Quote from: keefe on August 17, 2015, 01:00:19 PM
I think the caveat is those who left and played in The Show

Vander did.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2015, 01:08:55 PM »
I think y'all are expending way too much energy worry about this. What he decides, he decides, and we should all be thankful he has decided to spend his college career at Marquette, no matter how long or short that is.

You fellas are like the guy who is dating a beautiful, smart, and funny woman, but instead of enjoying it, he spends all of his time worrying about when she will come to her senses and break it off.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2015, 01:10:50 PM »
From the article:
"8.  Henry Ellenson     COLLEGE: Marquette    AGE: 18    DOB: 01/13/1997    Class: Frosh    HT: 6-10    WT: 228    POS: C

Ellenson reminds some scouts of a young Kevin Love. He's a big man who can play with his back to the basket and also stretch the floor. He's a very good athlete for a player his size and he's more physically ready to dominate than many of the other players in our top 10. He'll need to have a great freshman season at Marquette to sustain this spot, but there's no question he has the talent to go this high."
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