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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 08:03:16 AM »
SMU and Larry Brown are a match made in heaven.  $MU likes to cheat and bend the rules, it's in their blood.  Larry Brown has been down this path before too.  Hiring Danny Manning's father at Kansas to get him there, Vincent Askew's potential transfer involving money, the whole Emmanuel Mudiay and Keith Frazier incidents, among others.

Recruiting violations and postseason bans involving SMU and Larry Brown?  Why should anyone be surprised?

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 08:08:32 AM »
SMU and Larry Brown are a match made in heaven.  $MU likes to cheat and bend the rules, it's in their blood.  Larry Brown has been down this path before too.  Hiring Danny Manning's father at Kansas to get him there, Vincent Askew's potential transfer involving money, the whole Emmanuel Mudiay and Keith Frazier incidents, among others.

Recruiting violations and postseason bans involving SMU and Larry Brown?  Why should anyone be surprised?

I definitely wouldn't be surprised. I think Baylor is going to also get dinged at some point as well.

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 08:19:18 AM »
SMU knew what kind of deal with the devil they were making. Too bad this couldn't have come up sooner. They got a few players I would love to see in Blue and Gold.
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 02:23:11 AM »
SMU and Larry Brown are a match made in heaven.  $MU likes to cheat and bend the rules, it's in their blood.  Larry Brown has been down this path before too.  Hiring Danny Manning's father at Kansas to get him there, Vincent Askew's potential transfer involving money, the whole Emmanuel Mudiay and Keith Frazier incidents, among others.

Recruiting violations and postseason bans involving SMU and Larry Brown?  Why should anyone be surprised?

Why do you think they went hard after Buzz.........?

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 07:47:53 AM »
Why do you think they went hard after Buzz.........?

Word.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 07:59:55 AM »
Why do you think they went hard after Buzz.........?
chicos - when is that bomb going to drop about Buzz's filthy goings on at MU? We're at about the year and a half Mark. How much longer do you think?
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 08:04:10 AM »
chicos - when is that bomb going to drop about Buzz's filthy goings on at MU? We're at about the year and a half Mark. How much longer do you think?

Buzz is still coaching so you have to wait at least 3 and a half more years.

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 09:14:17 AM »
chicos - when is that bomb going to drop about Buzz's filthy goings on at MU? We're at about the year and a half Mark. How much longer do you think?

Just making sure the logic train is still connected for everyone.

According to this post,


SMU likes to cheat, knows what deal with the devil they are making.

SMU went hard after Buzz.

SMU ends up with Larry Brown.




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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 09:34:54 AM »
Just making sure the logic train is still connected for everyone.

According to this post,


SMU likes to cheat, knows what deal with the devil they are making.

SMU went hard after Buzz.

SMU ends up with Larry Brown.

Your "logic" is based on conjecture. Let's try some based on fact.

Indiana knowingly and willingly hires basketball coaches who are convicted cheaters.

Indiana had to fire their known cheater when he got caught cheating again.

Indiana (who knowingly, willingly and aggressively seek out and hire coaches who will do ANYTHING to win) then hired Tom Crean.

It's Indiana, it's Indiana. Where the logic train is always on time.

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« Last Edit: August 03, 2015, 01:16:29 PM by Lennys Tap »

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 09:38:09 AM »
chicos - when is that bomb going to drop about Buzz's filthy goings on at MU? We're at about the year and a half Mark. How much longer do you think?

Chico had "intelligence" from "insiders" doncha' know. All foam, no beer.

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 10:05:04 AM »
Be fair, everybody. If Chicos told us, he'd have to kill us.

Paperwork ... police reports ... blood stains ... that would inconvenience everybody!
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 10:32:41 AM »
I have my doubts the Hillbilly cheats.

We certainly had our problems when the Hillbilly was head coach -- one of which ended up on the front page of the Chicago Tribune. And there appears to have been some serious questions about the character of some of our players.

But the Hillbilly recruited some really great ballplayers who slipped under the radar. The JuCOs, many of whom are now in the NBA, led to some criticism. But I suspect the Hillbilly simply "sold" 'em and made Marquette a place where JuCos could be comfortable.

Remember, when Coach Wojo was hired, one of the points he made was that he would build a program "Marquette would be proud of..." That has many meanings but I suspect one of them was that stories about incidents involving basketball players on Page 1 of the Chicago Tribune would be a thing of the past.

No, I don't think the Hillbilly cheated. At best, he stretched the rules to the breaking point to accommodate his needs.

« Last Edit: August 03, 2015, 11:24:54 PM by dgies9156 »

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2015, 11:06:07 AM »
From what I know he was just a dick to work for and to be around. I don't think he cheated or anything, just sounds like people in the athletic department didn't like the guy.
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2015, 11:43:38 AM »
Be fair, everybody. If Chicos told us, he'd have to kill us.

Paperwork ... police reports ... blood stains ... that would inconvenience everybody!


Is he a cop? (and are you black?)


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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2015, 01:07:08 PM »
From what I know he was just a dick to work for and to be around. I don't think he cheated or anything, just sounds like people in the athletic department didn't like the guy.
Respectfully (and I think I speak for Chicos here), there's something big coming out and it's huge and he knows all about it and nobody else does because connections.
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2015, 01:19:49 PM »
Respectfully (and I think I speak for Chicos here), there's something big coming out and it's huge and he knows all about it and nobody else does because connections.


If true, can't wait.
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2015, 01:31:14 PM »

If true, can't wait.

Don't hold your breath. Grayson is making fun of Chico.

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2015, 01:47:27 PM »
Don't hold your breath. Grayson is making fun of Chico.

Thanks I was getting red.
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 02:18:23 PM »
From what I know he was just a dick to work for and to be around. I don't think he cheated or anything, just sounds like people in the athletic department didn't like the guy.



Sounds kinda like T-Cubed, ai na?
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 02:34:35 PM »


Sounds kinda like T-Cubed, ai na?

Yeah, but fvck Crean
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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2015, 03:05:28 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the closest Buzz was ever connected to rule breaking/cheating was the infamous Scott Monarch situation in 2012.  He was suspended the first Big East game of the season (UConn, I believe - which I think was the game Cadougan hit a game winning three) for the dreaded lack of institutional control, and Monarch was fired for lying to investigators.  All over giving a recruit a t-shirt.

With that being said, there are some individuals who have blatantly cheated over the years - only to receive other coaching opportunities elsewhere.  Donnie Tyndall, Kelvin Sampson, Bruce Pearl, Todd Bozeman, Tim Floyd, and even Dave Bliss, received other head coaching opportunities despite rampant lack of institutional control and/or knowledgeable cheating.  Heck, wouldn't be surprised to see Mike Rice Jr. receive another shot at coaching somewhere in the next few years. 

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2015, 05:51:58 PM »
Don't forget Steve Fischer and Jerry Tarkanian.

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 06:21:11 PM »
Don't forget Steve Fischer and Jerry Tarkanian.

How could I forget those two???

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Re: Bert to SMU
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 06:54:34 PM »
Donnie Tyndall, Kelvin Sampson, Bruce Pearl, Todd Bozeman, Tim Floyd, and even Dave Bliss...cheaters

Rick Pitino is an admitted cheater., too


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