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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 07:30:18 AM »
I think you're being sarcastic but this is the beginning of a lot of R&D to completely reinvent the way construction is done.  New technologies in manufactured housing (which is noting like current technology) is hoping to have the construction process of a hew home to less than a week.  Longer-term (next generation), they think it can be a day.  

A developer in China built a 57 story skyscraper in just 19 days
http://www.businessinsider.com/a-complete-skyscraper-built-in-19-days-2015-3

Another China developer 3D printed a 5 story apartment building earlier this year
http://www.cnet.com/news/worlds-first-3d-printed-apartment-building-constructed-in-china/

And to anticipate a question, it does not matter if they fall down, this is version 1.0 of new technologies that is not going away and will change the way the construction business works.  Building jobs will eventually suffer the same fate that taxi jobs are suffering now.  And no, this is not coming as fast as driverless cars, as it is more complicated, but we might see the end of currently done construction jobs in our lifetime.

People are too expensive and too unreliable which is why we are automating them wherever possible.  Have to stay ahead of the technology curve.

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If your job existed a 100 years ago, and those that did it a hundred years ago can understand how you do it today, your job is at risk to automation (eventually).

Topping this list is doctors.  A lot of what they do can/will be automated away.  Automated surgery centers and smart watches that monitor you better than an annual physical is going to unemploy a lot of medical professionals.

Doctors are really expensive and tremendously unreliable ...

Deaths by medical mistakes hit records
http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records

Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions.

Do we have a moral imperative to automate doctors away?  Are they too dangerous for society?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 07:43:39 AM by Heisenberg »

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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 08:25:41 AM »
I think you're being sarcastic but this is the beginning of a lot of R&D to completely reinvent the way construction is done.  New technologies in manufactured housing (which is noting like current technology) is hoping to have the construction process of a hew home to less than a week.  Longer-term (next generation), they think it can be a day.  

A developer in China built a 57 story skyscraper in just 19 days
http://www.businessinsider.com/a-complete-skyscraper-built-in-19-days-2015-3

Another China developer 3D printed a 5 story apartment building earlier this year
http://www.cnet.com/news/worlds-first-3d-printed-apartment-building-constructed-in-china/

And to anticipate a question, it does not matter if they fall down, this is version 1.0 of new technologies that is not going away and will change the way the construction business works.  Building jobs will eventually suffer the same fate that taxi jobs are suffering now.  And no, this is not coming as fast as driverless cars, as it is more complicated, but we might see the end of currently done construction jobs in our lifetime.

People are too expensive and too unreliable which is why we are automating them wherever possible. Have to stay ahead of the technology curve.

ADDED

If your job existed a 100 years ago, and those that did it a hundred years ago can understand how you do it today, your job is at risk to automation (eventually).

Topping this list is doctors.  A lot of what they do can/will be automated away.  Automated surgery centers and smart watches that monitor you better than an annual physical is going to unemploy a lot of medical professionals.

Doctors are really expensive and tremendously unreliable ...

Deaths by medical mistakes hit records
http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records

Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions.

Do we have a moral imperative to automate doctors away?  Are they too dangerous for society?

My grand daughter is only 4. What jobs will be there for her? Something to think about.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 08:27:48 AM by muwarrior69 »

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 08:32:13 AM »
I think you're being sarcastic but this is the beginning of a lot of R&D to completely reinvent the way construction is done.  New technologies in manufactured housing (which is noting like current technology) is hoping to have the construction process of a hew home to less than a week.  Longer-term (next generation), they think it can be a day.  

A developer in China built a 57 story skyscraper in just 19 days
http://www.businessinsider.com/a-complete-skyscraper-built-in-19-days-2015-3

Another China developer 3D printed a 5 story apartment building earlier this year
http://www.cnet.com/news/worlds-first-3d-printed-apartment-building-constructed-in-china/

And to anticipate a question, it does not matter if they fall down, this is version 1.0 of new technologies that is not going away and will change the way the construction business works.  Building jobs will eventually suffer the same fate that taxi jobs are suffering now.  And no, this is not coming as fast as driverless cars, as it is more complicated, but we might see the end of currently done construction jobs in our lifetime.

People are too expensive and too unreliable which is why we are automating them wherever possible.  Have to stay ahead of the technology curve.

ADDED

If your job existed a 100 years ago, and those that did it a hundred years ago can understand how you do it today, your job is at risk to automation (eventually).

Topping this list is doctors.  A lot of what they do can/will be automated away.  Automated surgery centers and smart watches that monitor you better than an annual physical is going to unemploy a lot of medical professionals.

Doctors are really expensive and tremendously unreliable ...

Deaths by medical mistakes hit records
http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records

Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions.

Do we have a moral imperative to automate doctors away?  Are they too dangerous for society?

The bolded portion is just patently false.  I can think of more than one example, but just off the top of my head: lawyers.  They're not going away.

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 08:33:39 AM »
The bolded portion is just patently false.  I can think of more than one example, but just off the top of my head: lawyers.  They're not going away.

Prostitutes.
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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2015, 08:55:27 AM »
My grand daughter is only 4. What jobs will be there for her? Something to think about.

HVAC.  People will want to be warm in the winter, and cold in the summer.

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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 11:41:33 AM »
My grand daughter is only 4. What jobs will be there for her? Something to think about.

In 1900 50% of all American jobs were on the farm.  In 2000 it was less than 2%.  We made it through that transition and we will make it through this transition was well.

What we are doing is lowering cost, making everything more affordable and raising living standards.  By automating construction, we are going to do more to make housing affordable and to the reach of more (think third world) than any Government program could possible do.  It should be embraced because it enables people to live like kings on less money.

Gates, Richest Man, Says $40,000 Goes Further These Days
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-17/gates-richest-man-says-40-000-goes-further-these-days
Gates, whose net worth is estimated at $86 billion, according to the the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, said a person making $40,000 a year is better off now than someone making an equivalent salary decades ago because inventions like the Internet boost the quality of life.   “It’s not quite as negative a picture as a pure GDP look would give you,” Gates said on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS” on Sunday. “It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t worry about middle class incomes, but the comparisons overstate the lack of progress.”



And yes Lawyers are going away faster than Doctors.  

As law school enrollment drops, experts disagree on whether the bottom is in sight
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/as_law_school_enrollment_drops_experts_disagree_on_whether_the_bottom
The last time total enrollment was so low, states a Dec. 16 news release announcing the enrollment numbers, was 1987—when there were 29 fewer ABA-approved law schools than there are today.  Enrollment of first-year law students also fell in 2014 for the fourth straight year, to 37,924, down 4.4 percent from 2013 and nearly 28 percent off the all-time high of 52,488 1Ls in 2010

Why?  Maybe this is their long-term outlook...

iLawyer: What Happens When Computers Replace Attorneys?
After decades of killing low-end jobs in retail, software is finally doing the people's bidding by creating a world with fewer lawyers.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/06/ilawyer-what-happens-when-computers-replace-attorneys/258688/

So what 69's 4-year old grand-daughter going to do?  Great and wonderful things.  Things that require intellectual thought and fulfillment.  Things that excite her and the users of whatever she does.  In other words, entire new industries and job classifications will be invented that are far more interesting than what we have now.

She will be free of soul crushing cubicle jobs.  The cost of getting things like housing or transportation will be a small fraction of what we pay now.  Her life will be far greater than what we have now.

Embrace the change, root for it.  It's all good.

I think Bill Gates is one of the world's leading thinkers and will go down along side Thomas Edison, Leonardo da Vinci, Robert Fulton, Charles Darwin and Galileo as people that had profound impacts human advancement.  He has single-handily done more than entire Governments or "isms" (communism, socialism, etc) to affect everyone's life for the better.  Pay attention to this man!

Bill Gates: People Don't Realize How Many Jobs Will Soon Be Replaced By Software Bots
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-bots-are-taking-away-jobs-2014-3#ixzz3eerB7ISI

Bill Gates Makes Bold Bet About Ending Poverty, And Tech Plays A Big Role
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/22/bill-gates-annual-letter_n_6523880.html

Bill Gates says the pace of innovation is as fast as ever
Philantropist says technology is starting to outstrip what was imaginable in his youth
Feb 26, 2015 4:33 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-gates-says-the-pace-of-innovation-is-as-fast-as-ever-1.2972866
Microsoft founder and billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates says the pace of technological innovation is as fast as ever and shows no signs of slowing down.  "We're finally at the point where, in a few areas, it's starting to outstrip what was even imaginable in my youth," Gates told CBC’s chief correspondent Peter Mansbridge in a sit-down interview Wednesday.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 11:52:00 AM by Heisenberg »

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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 12:32:50 PM »
I think you're being sarcastic but this is the beginning of a lot of R&D to completely reinvent the way construction is done.  

Holy sh1t, Heise, did you just throw someone shade for an attention-grabbing, sensationalistic subject line?!  Really?!
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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 12:33:54 PM »
LOL on thinking that docs 100 years ago would understand how docs work today.

 

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Re: Well there goes all those masonry jobs!
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 01:15:11 PM »
In 1900 50% of all American jobs were on the farm.  In 2000 it was less than 2%.  We made it through that transition and we will make it through this transition was well.

What we are doing is lowering cost, making everything more affordable and raising living standards.  By automating construction, we are going to do more to make housing affordable and to the reach of more (think third world) than any Government program could possible do.  It should be embraced because it enables people to live like kings on less money.

Gates, Richest Man, Says $40,000 Goes Further These Days
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-17/gates-richest-man-says-40-000-goes-further-these-days
Gates, whose net worth is estimated at $86 billion, according to the the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, said a person making $40,000 a year is better off now than someone making an equivalent salary decades ago because inventions like the Internet boost the quality of life.   “It’s not quite as negative a picture as a pure GDP look would give you,” Gates said on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS” on Sunday. “It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t worry about middle class incomes, but the comparisons overstate the lack of progress.”



And yes Lawyers are going away faster than Doctors.  

As law school enrollment drops, experts disagree on whether the bottom is in sight
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/as_law_school_enrollment_drops_experts_disagree_on_whether_the_bottom
The last time total enrollment was so low, states a Dec. 16 news release announcing the enrollment numbers, was 1987—when there were 29 fewer ABA-approved law schools than there are today.  Enrollment of first-year law students also fell in 2014 for the fourth straight year, to 37,924, down 4.4 percent from 2013 and nearly 28 percent off the all-time high of 52,488 1Ls in 2010

Why?  Maybe this is their long-term outlook...

iLawyer: What Happens When Computers Replace Attorneys?
After decades of killing low-end jobs in retail, software is finally doing the people's bidding by creating a world with fewer lawyers.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/06/ilawyer-what-happens-when-computers-replace-attorneys/258688/

So what 69's 4-year old grand-daughter going to do?  Great and wonderful things.  Things that require intellectual thought and fulfillment.  Things that excite her and the users of whatever she does.  In other words, entire new industries and job classifications will be invented that are far more interesting than what we have now.

She will be free of soul crushing cubicle jobs.  The cost of getting things like housing or transportation will be a small fraction of what we pay now.  Her life will be far greater than what we have now.

Embrace the change, root for it.  It's all good.

I think Bill Gates is one of the world's leading thinkers and will go down along side Thomas Edison, Leonardo da Vinci, Robert Fulton, Charles Darwin and Galileo as people that had profound impacts human advancement.  He has single-handily done more than entire Governments or "isms" (communism, socialism, etc) to affect everyone's life for the better.  Pay attention to this man!

Bill Gates: People Don't Realize How Many Jobs Will Soon Be Replaced By Software Bots
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-bots-are-taking-away-jobs-2014-3#ixzz3eerB7ISI

Bill Gates Makes Bold Bet About Ending Poverty, And Tech Plays A Big Role
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/22/bill-gates-annual-letter_n_6523880.html

Bill Gates says the pace of innovation is as fast as ever
Philantropist says technology is starting to outstrip what was imaginable in his youth
Feb 26, 2015 4:33 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-gates-says-the-pace-of-innovation-is-as-fast-as-ever-1.2972866
Microsoft founder and billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates says the pace of technological innovation is as fast as ever and shows no signs of slowing down.  "We're finally at the point where, in a few areas, it's starting to outstrip what was even imaginable in my youth," Gates told CBC’s chief correspondent Peter Mansbridge in a sit-down interview Wednesday.


It's hard to take it all seriously when we were promised flying cars and meals in pill form by the year 2000...

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 02:20:54 PM »
LOL on thinking that docs 100 years ago would understand how docs work today.

You'd be surprised how much they would.  And how much of what a doctor does can/will be automated away.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 03:17:52 PM »
The drop in law school enrollment is a market correction. Technology is making it easier for fewer attorneys to perform more work, but attorneys are also doing more types of work than ever before. For the last couple of decades we have been graduating too many lawyers. Terrible schools like Thomas Cooley and any infilaw school are putting out massive numbers of terrible lawyers. Faced with skyrocketing tuition and decreased job prospects due to over-saturation, it is only natural that fewer students would enroll in law school. I, and many others in the actual legal community (not law schools), welcome this trend, and I sincerely hope the ABA cuts the fat in the next few years (I'm talking about any school that was accredited in the last decade and any school where less than 50% of graduates achieve JD required employment).

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 04:22:37 PM »
You'd be surprised how much they would.  And how much of what a doctor does can/will be automated away.

Didn't know you've got an MD.  Congrats!

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2015, 07:18:40 PM »
Didn't know you've got an MD.  Congrats!

This guy has an engineering degree from MIT and an MD from Harvard.  He is now one of the "big thinkers" in Silicon valley.  He thinks I'm far too conservative in my thinking.  He thinks IT is going much futher in revoluizing the medical profession.

http://singularityhub.com/2015/05/11/the-world-in-2025-8-predictions-for-the-next-10-years/

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ON May 11, 2015
Featured, Future, Singularity

In 2025, in accordance with Moore's Law, we'll see an acceleration in the rate of change as we move closer to a world of true abundance. Here are eight areas where we'll see extraordinary transformation in the next decade:

1. A $1,000 Human Brain

In 2025, $1,000 should buy you a computer able to calculate at 10^16 cycles per second (10,000 trillion cycles per second), the equivalent processing speed of the human brain.

2. A Trillion-Sensor Economy
The Internet of Everything describes the networked connections between devices, people, processes and data. By 2025, the IoE will exceed 100 billion connected devices, each with a dozen or more sensors collecting data. This will lead to a trillion-sensor economy driving a data revolution beyond our imagination. Cisco's recent report estimates the IoE will generate $19 trillion of newly created value.
3. Perfect Knowledge

We're heading towards a world of perfect knowledge. With a trillion sensors gathering data everywhere (autonomous cars, satellite systems, drones, wearables, cameras), you'll be able to know anything you want, anytime, anywhere, and query that data for answers and insights.

4. 8 Billion Hyper-Connected People
Facebook (Internet.org), SpaceX, Google (Project Loon), Qualcomm and Virgin (OneWeb) are planning to provide global connectivity to every human on Earth at speeds exceeding one megabit per second.

We will grow from three to eight billion connected humans, adding five billion new consumers into the global economy. They represent tens of trillions of new dollars flowing into the global economy. And they are not coming online like we did 20 years ago with a 9600 modem on AOL. They're coming online with a 1 Mbps connection and access to the world's information on Google, cloud 3D printing, Amazon Web Services, artificial intelligence with Watson, crowdfunding, crowdsourcing, and more.

5. Disruption of Healthcare
Existing healthcare institutions will be crushed as new business models with better and more efficient care emerge. Thousands of startups, as well as today's data giants (Google, Apple, Microsoft, SAP, IBM, etc.) will all enter this lucrative $3.8 trillion healthcare industry with new business models that dematerialize, demonetize and democratize today's bureaucratic and inefficient system.

Biometric sensing (wearables) and AI will make each of us the CEOs of our own health. Large-scale genomic sequencing and machine learning will allow us to understand the root cause of cancer, heart disease and neurodegenerative disease and what to do about it. Robotic surgeons can carry out an autonomous surgical procedure perfectly (every time) for pennies on the dollar. Each of us will be able to regrow a heart, liver, lung or kidney when we need it, instead of waiting for the donor to die.

6. Augmented and Virtual Reality
Billions of dollars invested by Facebook (Oculus), Google (Magic Leap), Microsoft (Hololens), Sony, Qualcomm, HTC and others will lead to a new generation of displays and user interfaces.

The screen as we know it — on your phone, your computer and your TV — will disappear and be replaced by eyewear. Not the geeky Google Glass, but stylish equivalents to what the well-dressed fashionistas are wearing today. The result will be a massive disruption in a number of industries ranging from consumer retail, to real estate, education, travel, entertainment, and the fundamental ways we operate as humans.

7. Early Days of JARVIS

Artificial intelligence research will make strides in the next decade. If you think Siri is useful now, the next decade's generation of Siri will be much more like JARVIS from Iron Man, with expanded capabilities to understand and answer. Companies like IBM Watson, DeepMind and Vicarious continue to hunker down and develop next-generation AI systems. In a decade, it will be normal for you to give your AI access to listen to all of your conversations, read your emails and scan your biometric data because the upside and convenience will be so immense.

8. Blockchain

If you haven't heard of the blockchain, I highly recommend you read up on it. You might have heard of bitcoin, which is the decentralized (global), democratized, highly secure cryptocurrency based on the blockchain. But the real innovation is the blockchain itself, a protocol that allows for secure, direct (without a middleman), digital transfers of value and assets (think money, contracts, stocks, IP). Investors like Marc Andreesen have poured tens of millions into the development and believe this is as important of an opportunity as the creation of the Internet itself.


Bottom Line: We Live in the Most Exciting Time Ever

We are living toward incredible times where the only constant is change, and the rate of change is increasing.

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2015, 08:24:11 PM »
Good thing he just thinks instead of actually doing anything.  Sounds like he'd do quite a bit of damage if he ever got off his a$$.

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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2015, 09:07:06 PM »
Good thing he just thinks instead of actually doing anything.  Sounds like he'd do quite a bit of damage if he ever got off his a$$.

Before this, he was in NASA's astronaut training program.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2015, 09:26:25 PM »
Before this, he was in NASA's astronaut training program.

Shame he didn't make it through.  Glad he's still trying to make something of himself.

By the way, nothing you posted from him says anything about docs 100 years ago understanding what docs do today.  But hey, keep digging.

Did the stock market crash yet?
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2015, 09:51:12 PM »
Some fun technology predictions of the past

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/famous-predictions-that-were-spectacularly-wrong/story-fn6vihic-1226889769437


There are also some great ones on the other side of the ledger.  "Can't miss" technologies that flopped.

The paperless office....I'm still waiting for that one.

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2015, 10:14:15 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2015, 07:16:51 AM »
Heisenberg,
If you haven't already read it, the cover story of the current The Atlantic is titled "The End of Work" and jobs being replaced by automation and robots and what will happen.

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 08:07:43 AM »
Some fun technology predictions of the past

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/famous-predictions-that-were-spectacularly-wrong/story-fn6vihic-1226889769437


There are also some great ones on the other side of the ledger.  "Can't miss" technologies that flopped.

The paperless office....I'm still waiting for that one.

Wait - so you can't always believe what you read?!? :D

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 10:59:07 AM »
Heisenberg,
If you haven't already read it, the cover story of the current The Atlantic is titled "The End of Work" and jobs being replaced by automation and robots and what will happen.





A World Without Work
For centuries, experts have predicted that machines would make workers obsolete. That moment may finally be arriving. Could that be a good thing?
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/07/world-without-work/395294/

Above I linked to Bill Gates saying that the pace of technological change is faster now than ever.  Consider this (from the story above) ...

Who could have guessed in 2005, two years before the iPhone was released, that smartphones would threaten hotel jobs within the decade, by helping homeowners rent out their apartments and houses to strangers on Airbnb? Or that the company behind the most popular search engine would design a self-driving car that could soon threaten driving, the most common job occupation among American men?

The most-common occupations in the United States are retail salesperson, cashier, food and beverage server, and office clerk. Together, these four jobs employ 15.4 million people—nearly 10 percent of the labor force, or more workers than there are in Texas and Massachusetts combined. Each is highly susceptible to automation, according to the Oxford study.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »
Shame he didn't make it through.  Glad he's still trying to make something of himself.

By the way, nothing you posted from him says anything about docs 100 years ago understanding what docs do today.  But hey, keep digging.

Did the stock market crash yet?

From the Atlantic article above (I was thinking of Skidelsky work when I made the 100 year comment)

Nine out of 10 workers today are in occupations that existed 100 years ago, and just 5 percent of the jobs generated between 1993 and 2013 came from “high tech” sectors like computing, software, and telecommunications. Our newest industries tend to be the most labor-efficient: they just don’t require many people. It is for precisely this reason that the economic historian Robert Skidelsky, comparing the exponential growth in computing power with the less-than-exponential growth in job complexity, has said, “Sooner or later, we will run out of jobs.”

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From the Atlantic article above (I was thinking of Skidelsky work when I made the 100 year comment)

Nine out of 10 workers today are in occupations that existed 100 years ago, and just 5 percent of the jobs generated between 1993 and 2013 came from “high tech” sectors like computing, software, and telecommunications. Our newest industries tend to be the most labor-efficient: they just don’t require many people. It is for precisely this reason that the economic historian Robert Skidelsky, comparing the exponential growth in computing power with the less-than-exponential growth in job complexity, has said, “Sooner or later, we will run out of jobs.”

Still waiting on those flying cars and meals in pill form...

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How many full-time workers still wear a suit and tie to work every day?  Most CPAs and lawyers don't even do that.  My guess is fewer than 10%.
Have some patience, FFS.