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Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« on: May 28, 2015, 02:23:26 PM »
With Iowa State going after the same recruits we do, would Hoiberg leaving to take over the Bulls be good for MU?

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/chicago-bulls-fire-tom-thibodeau-after-five-seasons-as-head-coach-052815
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 02:48:12 PM »
If Hoiberg accepts the Bulls job, ISU would promote TJ Otzelberger to head coach.  He's very well connected to Milwaukee, and probably keep a number of recruits in play there.

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2015, 02:49:30 PM »
It might help with Amir Coffey.

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 02:56:38 PM »
If you look at ISU's recruiting since TJO came back, it really looks like they are already recruiting his priority recruits. The only thing that would surprise me would be if Hoiberg didn't leave and TJO didn't replace him. As soon as ISU brought him back in April, it really looked like everything from Thibs getting let go to Hoiberg heading to Chicago to TJO taking over the Cyclones was a done deal.
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 05:35:10 PM »
It might help with Amir Coffey.

Yep. I think Amir ends up at MU.

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 06:01:58 PM »
Yep. I think Amir ends up at MU.

Is wojo willing to let Coffey play the point?

Makes the Rowsey signing even more illogical.
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2015, 06:06:58 PM »
Has Iowa State ever beaten us on a recruit the first time around, or do they just wait until guys leave MU?

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2015, 06:14:17 PM »
Is wojo willing to let Coffey play the point?

Makes the Rowsey signing even more illogical.

Coffey isn't a point guard and the Rowsey signing wasn't illogical at all.....

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2015, 06:19:20 PM »
Is wojo willing to let Coffey play the point?

Makes the Rowsey signing even more illogical.

Why would Wojo let Coffey play the point?

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2015, 06:37:13 PM »
Is wojo willing to let Coffey play the point?

Makes the Rowsey signing even more illogical.

What are you even talking about?

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2015, 06:41:48 PM »
Coffey isn't a point guard and the Rowsey signing wasn't illogical at all.....

...but, Hayward is usually negative about MU basketball

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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2015, 06:44:25 PM »
What are you even talking about?

Coffey and his dad want him to play PG in college

I mean really pretty simple.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2015, 06:45:35 PM »
...but, Hayward is usually negative about MU basketball

Saying I would rather have

Coffey, Kostas or Washington over another guard who played at UNc Ashville is negative?

Wanting a better option?

Might want to look up what the word "negative" means
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2015, 07:29:02 PM »
Has Iowa State ever beaten us on a recruit the first time around, or do they just wait until guys leave MU?

I suppose Matt Thomas, though his Marquette interest was lukewarm at best.
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2015, 08:11:29 PM »
Is wojo willing to let Coffey play the point?

Makes the Rowsey signing even more illogical.

It seems almost everyone MU recruits can be a point guard until they get to MU.  Remember when many were saying Sandy Cohen could play the point?
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2015, 08:27:14 PM »
It seems almost everyone MU recruits can be a point guard until they get to MU.  Remember when many were saying Sandy Cohen could play the point?

Yeah lol I know what your saying.

But in this case it's the wish of Coffey and his dad. They would prefer he plays a lot of point. What people don't get and I kept trying to explain just cuz he's 6'7 like Hauser and Kostas doesn't mean he's a SF type like them. He is versatile and we could basically play him 1-4 but he's mainly a guard and wants to play point.

I want him bad regardless where wojo decides to put him. Just saying that if Pg is truly his stance of wojo is willing to do that...Rowsey really didn't make sense at all.

Hauser, Coffey and Kostas would be such a encore class
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2015, 08:35:23 PM »
It seems almost everyone MU recruits can be a point guard until they get to MU.  Remember when many were saying Sandy Cohen could play the point?
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2015, 09:00:26 PM »
Yeah lol I know what your saying.

But in this case it's the wish of Coffey and his dad. They would prefer he plays a lot of point. What people don't get and I kept trying to explain just cuz he's 6'7 like Hauser and Kostas doesn't mean he's a SF type like them. He is versatile and we could basically play him 1-4 but he's mainly a guard and wants to play point.

Coffey will play the 2/3 in college. Guys that are 6'7" don't play the point in college. Maybe in spurts, on rare occasions, but not regularly.

Let's not forget we were also told Maymon and Looney were guards. Tim Maymon insisted Jeronne belonged in the backcourt while many said any school that recruited Looney as a 4 shouldn't bother. Both played the 4 in college.

Coffey and his dad may want him to play the 1. Doesn't mean it will happen.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2015, 09:38:21 PM »
Yeah lol I know what your saying.

But in this case it's the wish of Coffey and his dad. They would prefer he plays a lot of point. What people don't get and I kept trying to explain just cuz he's 6'7 like Hauser and Kostas doesn't mean he's a SF type like them. He is versatile and we could basically play him 1-4 but he's mainly a guard and wants to play point.

I want him bad regardless where wojo decides to put him. Just saying that if Pg is truly his stance of wojo is willing to do that...Rowsey really didn't make sense at all.

Hauser, Coffey and Kostas would be such a encore class

Rowsey can play and has played the 2--not an exclusive PG.

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2015, 10:12:53 PM »
Rowsey can play and has played the 2--not an exclusive PG.

PG is where we have the least depth though. Right now just Carter and Cheatam by default has to be the back up.

SG? We will have Duane logging major minutes. Cheatam, Sacar, some of JJJ

It makes even less sense if the plan is SG.

I think we settled too early.
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2015, 10:15:12 PM »
Coffey will play the 2/3 in college. Guys that are 6'7" don't play the point in college. Maybe in spurts, on rare occasions, but not regularly.

Let's not forget we were also told Maymon and Looney were guards. Tim Maymon insisted Jeronne belonged in the backcourt while many said any school that recruited Looney as a 4 shouldn't bother. Both played the 4 in college.

Coffey and his dad may want him to play the 1. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Lol those two guys are not even close to similar players to Coffey. He will only go somewhere that lets him handle the ball some.

The question is whether that place let's him play a ton of point or if he agrees to only do it a little.

Idk who the heck though two PF/centers one of whom was almost obese would play point...but that isn't Coffey lol.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 02:25:27 AM »
Lol those two guys are not even close to similar players to Coffey. He will only go somewhere that lets him handle the ball some.

The question is whether that place let's him play a ton of point or if he agrees to only do it a little.

Idk who the heck though two PF/centers one of whom was almost obese would play point...but that isn't Coffey lol.

You missed the point of my post. Nowhere did I compare Coffey to those players. The comparison is that what a player and his dad think his position should be and what it will actually be isn't the same.

I can't count how many people said Looney was a 2, that anyone recruiting him as a 4 shouldn't bother. So what happens when he gets to UCLA? He plays the 4 like everyone knew he would. Coffey will be the same. They can hem and haw about wanting him to play the 1, but when he gets to college, he'll be a 2/3, and my sneaking suspicion is that it'll be more 3 than 2.

That's just the reality of being 6'7". Unless you go to Kentucky where they have a bigger roster than NBA teams, guys' positions are determined as much by their size as their skillset.
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2015, 06:43:07 AM »
I'm using the wait and see approach in regards to Cheatham at the pt. I could def see us using a lineup of Duane, jjj, ellenson brothers, and Luke when carter needs a break or is in foul trouble or something. Duane is definitely capable and we also have sandy who can fill in at the wing as well with tha lineup.

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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2015, 08:44:51 AM »
If Coffey wants to come here, I promise a scholarship will present itself. Rowsey signing here has zero impact on Coffey's recruitment.
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Re: Bulls fire Thibodeau, will Hoiberg be next coach?
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2015, 09:11:44 AM »
If Coffey wants to come here, I promise a scholarship will present itself. Rowsey signing here has zero impact on Coffey's recruitment.

This. It's not an either or. Wojo and staff has been hot and heavy for Amir. That will not change.
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