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Do you have a problem with #24 being reissued?

Yes. It's retired and should stay retired.
84 (39.3%)
Maybe. Numbers should not be reissued for National Player of the Year winners.
20 (9.3%)
No.  Let anyone use any number. The hung banners honor the players.
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Total Members Voted: 213

Voting closed: June 26, 2015, 09:51:32 AM

Author Topic: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24  (Read 63339 times)

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http://www.anonymouseagle.com/2015/5/27/8663217/marquette-basketball-sacar-anim-haanif-cheatham-george-thompson-lazar-hayward



Maybe I'm in the minority, but I have no problem with Cheatham wearing Thompson's #24.  I'm too young to have watched him play so for me someone else wearing #24 brings Thompson's accomplishments back to the forefront.

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I'm all for retiring jerseys, not numbers.  Though it's not that difficult to find another number to avoid the retired ones, at least while there's still negative reaction to it being used.  I hope they ran it by GT and didn't make the same mistake nine years later.

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George Thompson is Marquette Basketball and is Al McGuire Basketball.  If you are going to put Al on your jersey, trumpet that you play on the Al McGuire Court, practice in the Al McGuire Center and have an annual Al's night, I would hope you would clear with Brute Force the "unretiring" of his number.

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The number belong to George Thompson who is the "godfather" of all that is modern Marquette Basketball.
It was retired and should stay retired. To "recycle" it cheapens the tradition of the program.

Have you seen any NY Yankee wearing number 3?

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Did somebody talk to George about this? There was little doubt Lazar was given the number by Crean out of spite (Crean also orchestrated his ouster from the booth).

How would people feel if #3 or #15 were re issued? I don't understand why it always seems to be #24.

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Let me also add, that I have been very impressed with how Wojo incorporates the past by listing every player who wore that number, in the current player's locker.  More than with TC or Buzz, I would think Wojo handled this correctly.
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Let me also add, that I have been very impressed with how Wojo incorporates the past by listing every player who wore that number, in the current player's locker.  More than with TC or Buzz, I would think Wojo handled this correctly.

I can totally picture Wojo handing out that #24 uni and as Haanif reaches out to take it, Wojo pulls it back, leans over, pauses, looks him straight in the eye, and says, "You better damn well do this jersey proud."
Have some patience, FFS.

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Anon Eagle makes a good point when he says 25% of jersey numbers available at Marquette have been retired. That's ridiculous. Retiring so many makes it lose its value.

Here's an idea: Do what Michigan football does. If a player wears a jersey that is honored, they also wear a small patch with the name of the former player. Very cool from a tradition and marketing standpoint. The school also connects the current player with the honored one, and acts as a mentor.

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Anon Eagle makes a good point when he says 25% of jersey numbers available at Marquette have been retired. That's ridiculous. Retiring so many makes it lose its value.

Thanks Crean! And can we stop the ridiculousness and unretire #11?

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Retire certain numbers that should never be worn again.

3 - Wade
15 - Lee
24 - Thompson
31 - Ellis

The rest are jerseys that can be honored at a much lower standard.  That standard could include people like Jerel McNeal, Wes Matthews, Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler, Tony Smith, etc.

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 10:49:02 AM »
Retire certain numbers that should never be worn again.

3 - Wade
15 - Lee
24 - Thompson
31 - Ellis

The rest are jerseys that can be honored at a much lower standard.  That standard could include people like Jerel McNeal, Wes Matthews, Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler, Tony Smith, etc.

I'd keep 77 retired, as well.
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 11:03:57 AM »
I think Haanif won't be stranger to what the number means. I don't know this for sure by any means but Wojo just seems like the type of guy who would do a hour crash course on MU Basketball history. Like a super version of that remember the Titans video.
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 11:04:31 AM »
I'd keep 77 retired, as well.

Not a number that can legally be worn anyway, so I'm fine with it staying retired too!

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 11:05:48 AM »
When is a retired jersey "not" retired?    What does George think about this?

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 11:06:02 AM »
What do they do at places like Duke and Kentucky, who have scores of players who are good enough to have their numbers retired (at least in comparison to most other schools)?

Maybe Wojo thinks that in the next couple of decades we are going to have so many great players, we might as well part with tradition now.   ;)
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 11:07:23 AM »
I'm pissed off at this. It's disrespectful, unnecessary, and diminishes the accomplishment, duly earned, of one of our greatest Warriors. There remains a plethora of other numbers to choose. That ass hole Crean started this bullchit and his sorry ass needs to be hung out to dry for it.
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2015, 11:10:23 AM »
For all we know they may have asked George for permission.  If he is okay with it, everyone else should be.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2015, 11:11:21 AM »
Not a number that can legally be worn anyway, so I'm fine with it staying retired too!

I never knew there was a restriction on what numbers were allowed. I punched some coordinates into the google machine and found this: Legal numbers are: 00, 0-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, 50-55. Team rosters may not include both 0, and 00. Members of the same team can not use the same number.

What is the point of that?
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2015, 11:15:12 AM »
The 3 blind mice can't handle a more complicated system, hey?
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2015, 11:15:59 AM »
I never knew there was a restriction on what numbers were allowed. I punched some coordinates into the google machine and found this: Legal numbers are: 00, 0-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, 50-55. Team rosters may not include both 0, and 00. Members of the same team can not use the same number.

What is the point of that?

to make it easy on the ref. they can easily tell the scoreboard foul on whatever player by holding up their fingers

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2015, 11:17:26 AM »
to make it easy on the ref. they can easily tell the scoreboard foul on whatever player by holding up their fingers

Yep.  I have seen someone get a technical foul for wearing jersey #17.  Why her school would even print a jersey like that is a mystery.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2015, 11:18:53 AM »
to make it easy on the ref. they can easily tell the scoreboard foul on whatever player by holding up their fingers

Ah yes. I remember the near collapse of numerous NBA officials when calling a foul on Rodman.
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2015, 11:19:04 AM »
It's just a number.

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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2015, 11:20:33 AM »
In all fairness he lead us to two ncaa appearances and an NIT finals appearance. I think he was great and on the ground floor of the modern era of MU basketball. But did he give us much more than someone like Jerel McNeal? Both all time scorers after leaving, both lead us to great success but no championships or final fours. Didn't exactly have a massively productive professional career where we'd retire him for that (Rivers) I just kind of think if we're going to retire numbers they should have gotten us a final four at least.

It's not like it's Wade.
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Re: Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2015, 11:21:03 AM »
I never knew there was a restriction on what numbers were allowed. I punched some coordinates into the google machine and found this: Legal numbers are: 00, 0-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, 50-55. Team rosters may not include both 0, and 00. Members of the same team can not use the same number.

What is the point of that?


College refs use one hand to notify the official scorer of the number of the person fouled.  

NBA refs, because they are more advanced, are able to manage to use both hands without confusion.