Pac Man v. Money

[JWags85]

I had two schools of thought on the fight tonight.

First, it was tremendously boring from a flash perspective.  Neither fighter was bruised or damaged really, few shots of significance that you could see without a super slow mo replay.  Pacquiao not even attempting to go for a knockout when clearly behind in the final 2 rounds.

On the other hand, from a technical perspective, Mayweather was masterful. Mayweather landed almost twice as many punches as Manny, despite Manny being a volume puncher.  His connection percentage was so far below his averages, it was incredible.  Mayweather baited him into flurries on the ropes, which got the pro-Manny fans at the bar I was at screaming with joy, until you realized none of the punches landed.  Its way more entertaining to watch a brawl, but Mayweather's speed was incredible, especially at 38.  There was also a round when the fight was still close where Mayweather clearly had the round won, heard 10 second signal, and immediately changed position to ride out the round and get the 10 points.  Some people hate it, but in a fight likely going to decision, thats brilliant fight management.

[tower912]

Another masterful job by Floyd.   He is what he is.   Undefeated, even lacking a big thunder punch.    A tribute to defensive mastery and strategy.

[Groin_pull]

Another masterful job by Floyd.   He is what he is.   Undefeated, even lacking a big thunder punch.    A tribute to defensive mastery and strategy.

Slap and run. What a warrior. 

[jficke13]

Another masterful job by Floyd.   He is what he is.   Undefeated, even lacking a big thunder punch.    A tribute to defensive mastery and strategy.

It's more of a tribute to him exploiting the scoring rules and being content to win boring decisions. Not exactly what people picture when they think of boxing, but it's perfectly legal and obviously extremely effective.

[tower912]

Slap and run. What a warrior.  

Scoreboard.   I don't really enjoy watching it either.   But he has fragile hands and lacks a thunderous punch and has managed to go 48-0 anyway.  Everybody he fights ends up fighting Floyd's fight and ultimately furious and frustrated.   No one has ever been able to force him into a slugfest, no one has ever caught him and forced him to brawl.   

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Slap and run. What a warrior. 

You can say the same thing about Ali. Im not saying theyre in the same conversation, Ali is much better, but he did not have very good punching power, he was just so fast and was so good defensively. Used his quick feet and hands to his advantage by giving small jabs and avoiding punches.

[Groin_pull]

You can say the same thing about Ali. Im not saying theyre in the same conversation, Ali is much better, but he did not have very good punching power, he was just so fast and was so good defensively. Used his quick feet and hands to his advantage by giving small jabs and avoiding punches.

Avoiding punches? Ali is basically a vegetable from all the shots he took.

[jesmu84]

Did anyone catch Mayweather's post-fight press conferences? Some of that is on the reporters and asking terrible questions. But man.. he's just a guy that's so easy to loathe. I also dislike the talk of him being one of the "greats". No doubt he's extremely good and effective, but his career has been so, so managed/produced. How many fights did he get into where there was ever a real threat?

As for the fight.. yea, it was underwhelming, if you've never seen a Mayweather fight before. Manny apparently had some injury which slowed him down after the 3rd or 4th round. Also, how many times can one guy get warned for wrapping up?

Not being a huge boxing guy... is there ever a situation where a fighter purely being more aggressive than Mayweather would get rewarded by judges?

[jesmu84]

http://devour.com/video/floyd-mayweathers-punch-out/

[Galway Eagle]

Did anyone catch Mayweather's post-fight press conferences? Some of that is on the reporters and asking terrible questions. But man.. he's just a guy that's so easy to loathe. I also dislike the talk of him being one of the "greats". No doubt he's extremely good and effective, but his career has been so, so managed/produced. How many fights did he get into where there was ever a real threat?

As for the fight.. yea, it was underwhelming, if you've never seen a Mayweather fight before. Manny apparently had some injury which slowed him down after the 3rd or 4th round. Also, how many times can one guy get warned for wrapping up?

Not being a huge boxing guy... is there ever a situation where a fighter purely being more aggressive than Mayweather would get rewarded by judges?

He is considered one of the great because of his defense, and I'd agree with that. Definitely not top 5 perhaps not even top 10. But I'd rank him top 25 for sure. 

I do have a problem with people saying things about him being over managed or never having faught a real challenge.  People who are certainly going to be hall of famers he's faught: Manny Pacquiao, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Arturo Gatti.  Plus a multitude of good boxers and champions in Ortiz, Alvarez, Judah, Castillo, Maidana, Guerrero and more.  It's not Floyd's fault boxing hasn't had loads of real challenges in his era. He's fought every big super star in his path who else is left? Lemont Peterson? Timothy Bradley? Up to Middleweight and fight G.G.G.? He was honestly in trouble once against Hatton and if Hatton had any defense to him he would have been able to capitalize, Cotto had Floyd better than most but punched himself out down the stretch, Castillo had Floyd pretty well and that fight is always pointed to being a robbery, Maidana 1 was a pretty darn close fight and I could see how people would say Maidana won. 

Clinching is perfectly legal, he was getting warned for holding Manny's head down but Pacquao also ducked into it many times so they weren't going to take a point away. 

They won't really reward anybody for purely being more aggressive. Perhaps if a lot of that aggression solidly connected they might give pretty even round to him but that's it. 

[Galway Eagle]

http://devour.com/video/floyd-mayweathers-punch-out/

This is hilarious