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curbina · « **on:** February 01, 2015, 10:24:33 AM »

Considering the inconsistent track record of Duke assistants (see list shown below) Marquette gambled on an assistant with no experience as a head coach. Under Wojo's leadership Marquette basketball is now in complete turmoil! I suppose you could say that "you've got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" and it is now time to send Wojo back to Duke and hire an experienced basketball coach!

List of former Duke assistant coaches.

Chris Collins (Northwestern Head Coach)
Collins first year (2013-2014) at Northwestern was less than stellar with a conference record of 6-12 and an overall record of 14-19. This year Northwestern is 1-7 in conference play and have an overall record of 10-11.

Mike Brey (Notre Dame Head Coach)
Brey is the most successful former assistant of Coach K, winning over 375 games in his time as a head coach at Delaware and Notre Dame. The three-time Big East Coach of the Year has the Irish back in the hunt for a conference title this season. But despite Brey’s sparkling winning percentage, he’s only been to the Sweet 16 once in 17 seasons as a head coach.

Tommy Amaker (Harvard Head Coach)
Amaker was fired at Michigan in 2007 and is now toiling in the obscurity of the Ivy League.

Johnny Dawkins (Stanford Head Coach)
In 2008, he was given the head coaching job at Stanford, but Dawkins’ first four years were mediocre at best. Dawkins did win the 2012 NIT Tournament and finally made the 2014 NCAA Tournament and was eliminated in the Sweet Sixteen by Dyton. This year Stanford is 6-3 in conference play and have an overall record of 15-6.

Jeff Capel (Ex-Oklahoma Head Coach)
Capel lead VCU to 79 wins in four seasons. After riding Blake Griffin to the 2009 Elite Eight, Capel’s Oklahoma teams nosedived with two straight losing seasons. Capel has come back to Coach K, tail tucked between his legs, and is currently an assistant coach for the Blue Devils.

Quin Snyder (Ex-Missouri Head Coach)
Snyder then accepted the head coaching position at the University of Missouri, and led the Tigers to four consecutive NCAA Tournaments, including one Elite Eight appearance. After two NIT appearances followed, Snyder was axed in Columbia. He’s now a long way from home as an assistant for Russia’s CSKA Moscow.

Robert Brickey (Ex-Shaw Head Coach)
Brickey’s only head coaching job came in DII at Shaw University, where he only lasted three seasons. Brickey is currently the Director of Basketball at Hoops City U, a youth basketball program.

Mike Dement (Ex-UNC-Greensboro Head Coach)
Demant coach at Cornell, SMU and UNCG, not exactly blue blood program. Dement made the NCAA tournament once at Cornell but has resigned his past two head coaching positions at SMU and UNCG midseason, the latter coming in December of 2011.

David Henderson (Ex-Delaware Head Coach)
Henderson coached under Krzyzewski between 1998-2000, when he was tapped to be the University of Delaware’s head coach. In 2006 Henderson was fired after Delaware posted a 9-21 record. He hasn’t resurfaced in college basketball since.

Tim O’Toole (Ex-Fairfield Head Coach)
After one season as a Seton Hall assistant, O’Toole took over for his alma mater, Fairfield, as the program’s head coach. In eight years, O’Toole could only muster one NIT appearance and was out the door. He’s currently the director of basketball operations for Syracuse.

79Warrior · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:30:51 AM »

Quote from: curbina on February 01, 2015, 10:24:33 AM

Considering the inconsistent track record of Duke assistants (see list shown below) Marquette gambled on an assistant with no experience as a head coach. Under Wojo's leadership Marquette basketball is now in complete turmoil! I suppose you could say that "you've got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" and it is now time to send Wojo back to Duke and hire an experienced basketball coach!

List of former Duke assistant coaches.

Chris Collins (Northwestern Head Coach)
Collins first year (2013-2014) at Northwestern was less than stellar with a conference record of 6-12 and an overall record of 14-19. This year Northwestern is 1-7 in conference play and have an overall record of 10-11.

Mike Brey (Notre Dame Head Coach)
Brey is the most successful former assistant of Coach K, winning over 375 games in his time as a head coach at Delaware and Notre Dame. The three-time Big East Coach of the Year has the Irish back in the hunt for a conference title this season. But despite Brey’s sparkling winning percentage, he’s only been to the Sweet 16 once in 17 seasons as a head coach.

Tommy Amaker (Harvard Head Coach)
Amaker was fired at Michigan in 2007 and is now toiling in the obscurity of the Ivy League.

Johnny Dawkins (Stanford Head Coach)
In 2008, he was given the head coaching job at Stanford, but Dawkins’ first four years were mediocre at best. Dawkins did win the 2012 NIT Tournament and finally made the 2014 NCAA Tournament and was eliminated in the Sweet Sixteen by Dyton. This year Stanford is 6-3 in conference play and have an overall record of 15-6.

Jeff Capel (Ex-Oklahoma Head Coach)
Capel lead VCU to 79 wins in four seasons. After riding Blake Griffin to the 2009 Elite Eight, Capel’s Oklahoma teams nosedived with two straight losing seasons. Capel has come back to Coach K, tail tucked between his legs, and is currently an assistant coach for the Blue Devils.

Quin Snyder (Ex-Missouri Head Coach)
Snyder then accepted the head coaching position at the University of Missouri, and led the Tigers to four consecutive NCAA Tournaments, including one Elite Eight appearance. After two NIT appearances followed, Snyder was axed in Columbia. He’s now a long way from home as an assistant for Russia’s CSKA Moscow.

Robert Brickey (Ex-Shaw Head Coach)
Brickey’s only head coaching job came in DII at Shaw University, where he only lasted three seasons. Brickey is currently the Director of Basketball at Hoops City U, a youth basketball program.

Mike Dement (Ex-UNC-Greensboro Head Coach)
Demant coach at Cornell, SMU and UNCG, not exactly blue blood program. Dement made the NCAA tournament once at Cornell but has resigned his past two head coaching positions at SMU and UNCG midseason, the latter coming in December of 2011.

David Henderson (Ex-Delaware Head Coach)
Henderson coached under Krzyzewski between 1998-2000, when he was tapped to be the University of Delaware’s head coach. In 2006 Henderson was fired after Delaware posted a 9-21 record. He hasn’t resurfaced in college basketball since.

Tim O’Toole (Ex-Fairfield Head Coach)
After one season as a Seton Hall assistant, O’Toole took over for his alma mater, Fairfield, as the program’s head coach. In eight years, O’Toole could only muster one NIT appearance and was out the door. He’s currently the director of basketball operations for Syracuse.

Thank for your stats. Now GTFO.

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:30:59 AM »

Sigh. The world has gambled on you. And clearly we're no better for it.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:34:54 AM »

Can't believe the flaccidity on this board toward Wojo. Hell, he ain't got no fookin' talent to work with unless you believe Bumstead left him with All-Americans in Anderson, JJJ, and Taylor. Thankfully Steve got Carlino or I'm not sure this team would have 5 wins at this point.
Give the man a fookin' chance. Any y'all think Holland or Martin woulda been better? 'member, Shaka was just a prick tease.

BCHoopster · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:39:13 AM »

Considering it is none of his talent on the team, a head coach learns on the job and that is what he is doing with somebody else's talent, which is limited to say the least. They have a Top 10 recruiting class coming in, lets reserve judgement till 2016 or 2017, when we should be back in the NCAA tournament, if not there is a problem. The next 4 kids he recruits are the key to his success. If he is lucky and picks up another 1 or 2 this year that can play, might be OK in 2015, if not 2016 is the hump year.

MerrittsMustache · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:40:30 AM »

Quote from: curbina on February 01, 2015, 10:24:33 AM

Considering the inconsistent track record of Duke assistants (see list shown below) Marquette gambled on an assistant with no experience as a head coach. Under Wojo's leadership Marquette basketball is now in complete turmoil! I suppose you could say that "you've got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" and it is now time to send Wojo back to Duke and hire an experienced basketball coach!

List of former Duke assistant coaches.

Chris Collins (Northwestern Head Coach)
Collins first year (2013-2014) at Northwestern was less than stellar with a conference record of 6-12 and an overall record of 14-19. This year Northwestern is 1-7 in conference play and have an overall record of 10-11.

Mike Brey (Notre Dame Head Coach)
Brey is the most successful former assistant of Coach K, winning over 375 games in his time as a head coach at Delaware and Notre Dame. The three-time Big East Coach of the Year has the Irish back in the hunt for a conference title this season. But despite Brey’s sparkling winning percentage, he’s only been to the Sweet 16 once in 17 seasons as a head coach.

Tommy Amaker (Harvard Head Coach)
Amaker was fired at Michigan in 2007 and is now toiling in the obscurity of the Ivy League.

Johnny Dawkins (Stanford Head Coach)
In 2008, he was given the head coaching job at Stanford, but Dawkins’ first four years were mediocre at best. Dawkins did win the 2012 NIT Tournament and finally made the 2014 NCAA Tournament and was eliminated in the Sweet Sixteen by Dyton. This year Stanford is 6-3 in conference play and have an overall record of 15-6.

Jeff Capel (Ex-Oklahoma Head Coach)
Capel lead VCU to 79 wins in four seasons. After riding Blake Griffin to the 2009 Elite Eight, Capel’s Oklahoma teams nosedived with two straight losing seasons. Capel has come back to Coach K, tail tucked between his legs, and is currently an assistant coach for the Blue Devils.

Quin Snyder (Ex-Missouri Head Coach)
Snyder then accepted the head coaching position at the University of Missouri, and led the Tigers to four consecutive NCAA Tournaments, including one Elite Eight appearance. After two NIT appearances followed, Snyder was axed in Columbia. He’s now a long way from home as an assistant for Russia’s CSKA Moscow.

Robert Brickey (Ex-Shaw Head Coach)
Brickey’s only head coaching job came in DII at Shaw University, where he only lasted three seasons. Brickey is currently the Director of Basketball at Hoops City U, a youth basketball program.

Mike Dement (Ex-UNC-Greensboro Head Coach)
Demant coach at Cornell, SMU and UNCG, not exactly blue blood program. Dement made the NCAA tournament once at Cornell but has resigned his past two head coaching positions at SMU and UNCG midseason, the latter coming in December of 2011.

David Henderson (Ex-Delaware Head Coach)
Henderson coached under Krzyzewski between 1998-2000, when he was tapped to be the University of Delaware’s head coach. In 2006 Henderson was fired after Delaware posted a 9-21 record. He hasn’t resurfaced in college basketball since.

Tim O’Toole (Ex-Fairfield Head Coach)
After one season as a Seton Hall assistant, O’Toole took over for his alma mater, Fairfield, as the program’s head coach. In eight years, O’Toole could only muster one NIT appearance and was out the door. He’s currently the director of basketball operations for Syracuse.

You lost everyone with a brain at "Marquette basketball is now in complete turmoil"

chapman · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:42:23 AM »

The Uggs For Sale accounts make better first posts.

Goose · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:44:46 AM »

4ever

Agree completely. He has min thing to work with and has kept things competitive. He has proven he can recruit and probably coach as well. I am not concerned at all.

Eldon · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:50:08 AM »

Quote from: chapman on February 01, 2015, 10:42:23 AM

The Uggs For Sale accounts make better first posts.

+1

I think I will buy some Uggs from that bot just to spite this dude.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:54:20 AM »

Quin Snyder is the head coach of the Utah Jazz.

This the worst MU team and offense in 25 years, trending toward in my wakening lifetime. We are a spoiled and entitled bunch. That said, we are in these games to the end. The coaching staff and players are learning. Wojo has scored a top recruit. But, let's see what follows that. There are things that concern me sure, but what fan doesn't react that way? This is a five year plan as Wojo is about building a program.

muhoops1 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:54:41 AM »

Quinn Synder is the HC of the Utah Jazz. Learn how to use Google you miserable unnatural carnal knowledge.

SaveOD238 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:02:10 AM »

Quote from: curbina on February 01, 2015, 10:24:33 AM

Tommy Amaker (Harvard Head Coach)
Amaker was fired at Michigan in 2007 and is now toiling in the obscurity of the Ivy League.

If by "toiling in obscurity" you mean winning three consecutive conference championships and taking the Crimson to the NCAAs for only the 2nd-4th times ever, while being the only Ivy League coach that I can name, then yes, he is "toiling in obscurity"

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:08:29 AM »

After the Shaka debacle, all signs pointed towards Marquette hiring Cuonzo Martin. He had the job in the bag. The committee brought in Wojo as the last interview, just to do their due dilegence. From what I have heard, Wojo's interview blew them away. What impressed them? He had a detailed 5 year plan for building the program to elite level. It included the facility upgrades made to the Al, supporting the building of a new stadium, and recruiting plans years in advance.

I was hoping, like everyone else, that the first year of Wojo's five year plan would involve a NCAA tournament bid. Obviously that's a pipe dream at this point. But make no mistake, Wojo is building for long term success. Give him some time, and he will reward us.

connie · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:14:05 AM »

When is hiring a coach NOT a gamble? There may be a few exceptions, but those exceptions were not possible. So what is the point of this?

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:15:52 AM »

Good Lord.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:17:37 AM »

Out of MU's last several head coaches before Wojo, the guys with the most head coaching experience were Dukiet and Deane.

The guys with the least (or no) head coaching experience were O'Neill, Crean and Buzz.

I'll take my chances with the latter....

Galway Eagle · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:31:58 AM »

Buzz recruited a certain type of player less skilled at basketball and more focused on toughness and athletic ability. Id say Wojo is looking for 2-3 of those types of players with the rest more of the high basketball iq guys. Currently Wojo is trying to make a middle ground work. If we had gotten Bennett or Ryan im convinced we wouldn't be much better because they hate speed up players. Guys like Duane I see fitting the Austin rivers or kyrie Irving role in Duke while henry being like Parker if Luke can be like One of the plumlees (or at least Brian Zoubek) and the other guys slowly get filled in as high iq discipline players I feel Wojo will meet his plan.

MUfan12 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:38:55 AM »

This board has officially jumped the shark.

GoldenZebra · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:42:19 AM »

You fed the troll. Yikes this is the thing you are NOT supposed to do on the internet. Dang it, I did to by posting....

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:51:00 AM »

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 01, 2015, 11:38:55 AM

This board has officially jumped the shark.

The OP isn't even a Marquette fan. There was a similar post like this on a Badger board not that long ago.

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:55:23 AM »

Quote from: Goose on February 01, 2015, 10:44:46 AM

4ever

Agree completely. He has min thing to work with and has kept things competitive. He has proven he can recruit and probably coach as well. I am not concerned at all.

I think Wojo is doing an incredible job. I thought the first half against Seton Hall we looked like one of the best coached marquette teams in recent memory. Of course, it fell apart in the second half, but this is a well coached team and, despite the W-L record, we are playing about as well as we can.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2015, 12:05:40 PM »

The last GM we had......seemed to look at star ratings and not whether they fit properly or addressed team weaknesses.

Or maybe they are late bloomers....hopefully the case. I think there is talent, though some of it clearly overinflated. Or, not playing to the various strengths needed with the others for 40 min. They show they are gritty, play hard, can make high level plays, but all too often can't for a sustained period of time. A lot of that is lack of depth....tough to play at a high level when you have 8 guys for 40 minutes.

keefe · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2015, 12:12:22 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2015, 10:34:54 AM

Shaka was just a prick ~~tease~~

Aina?

keefe · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2015, 12:15:47 PM »

What the f uck happened to the Bail Bond Five Year Rule??

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2015, 12:24:57 PM »

Quote from: keefe on February 01, 2015, 12:15:47 PM

What the f uck happened to the Bail Bond Five Year Rule??

Very much in tact.....why? I said yesterday, last week, the month before, when he was hired....we'll know in 4 to 5 years. Nothing has changed.

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