Governor Walker to Unveil Arena Plan Tomorrow

[jficke13]

The only downside to the plan is that because the person proposing it has a capital letter next to his name, 50% of everyone immediately views it with distrust.

Seems like a creative solution to me, and it's by far the best proposal we've heard on the subject so far.

[zrjones13]

Even Barrett said it was a great plan.  The people that might take issue are the republican controlled legislature.  This would be a semi disaster for Walker if he can't convince his own party to support this right before he runs for president.

[GGGG]

Even Barrett said it was a great plan.  The people that might take issue are the republican controlled legislature.  This would be a semi disaster for Walker if he can't convince his own party to support this right before he runs for president.

If it is within the overall budget bill, it will be very hard to remove.

[mu-rara]

Glow and Chick,

You two have some insider status and ACFI (remember that) background.  Does it make sense for MU to think about getting involved in financing the new arena, and if so at what level?

[mu_hilltopper]

Agreed, this plan looks like something that will pass, and we'll have a new stadium in a few years.

Now we'll all have the great pleasure of paying more for MU tickets, more for parking, more for food, more for beer.

Hooray!  Everything is awesome.

[warriorchick]

Glow and Chick,

You two have some insider status and ACFI (remember that) background.  Does it make sense for MU to think about getting involved in financing the new arena, and if so at what level?

It was ACCO in my day, FTR.  

My personal opinion is that the school should only invest in this arena if it makes sense for Marquette from a financial standpoint.  That means either A) putting in upfront money gives them free (or discounted) rent, and the NPV of that rent savings is more than the initial investment, or B) Marquette's upfront participation gives them an profit-sharing stake in the arena/entertainment complex, and only if there is a more than reasonable expectation that it will indeed be profitable.

If neither of those are true, Marquette should have no role other than as a tenant.

[Groin_pull]

Agreed, this plan looks like something that will pass, and we'll have a new stadium in a few years.

Now we'll all have the great pleasure of paying more for MU tickets, more for parking, more for food, more for beer.

Hooray!  Everything is awesome.

Jeez, some people live to bitch and moan. Maybe MU can rent out a high school gym. They can charge $1 to get in...50 cents for a program...and 75 cents for a hot dog.

[Lennys Tap]

Agreed, this plan looks like something that will pass, and we'll have a new stadium in a few years.

Now we'll all have the great pleasure of paying more for MU tickets, more for parking, more for food, more for beer.

Hooray!  Everything is awesome.

Wait. More for beer? I thought free beer was promised in the State of the Union address. Damn.

[WarriorPride68]

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[WarhawkWarrior]

Crazy idea, but if the future street car would run a loop that served in the vicinity of the Casino, Harley Musuem, Train Station, Summerfest Grounds, Art Musuem, Water Street District, the PAC District and the New Arena and Convention District it could really be attractive as a destination for visitors.

[jficke13]

Crazy idea, but if the future street car would run a loop that served in the vicinity of the Casino, Harley Musuem, Train Station, Summerfest Grounds, Art Musuem, Water Street District, the PAC District and the New Arena and Convention District it could really be attractive as a destination for visitors.

If anyone harbors any real hopes of making the streetcar... you know... something people use, then they really ought to make it go from where people are to where people want to go. So, yes, connecting it to the Arena and other places where people recreate would make sense.

[Texas Western]

Crazy idea, but if the future street car would run a loop that served in the vicinity of the Casino, Harley Musuem, Train Station, Summerfest Grounds, Art Musuem, Water Street District, the PAC District and the New Arena and Convention District it could really be attractive as a destination for visitors.

Good insight

[mu_hilltopper]

Jeez, some people live to bitch and moan. Maybe MU can rent out a high school gym. They can charge $1 to get in...50 cents for a program...and 75 cents for a hot dog.

It's pretty obvious no one would be happy /downgrading/ our arena like you suggest.   

Bottom line, this is a net negative for MU season ticket holders and folks who attend games.  We already have a stadium that not only meets, but arguably exceeds our needs.  While having an NBA team and stadium is beneficial for recruiting, MU was already kneecapped by the BE implosion and being demoted to an Ocho-esq television network.  Losing proximity to the NBA would be fractional in comparison.  Not good, but we're already in a position we need to overcome far bigger issues.

There is exactly one reason, and one reason alone a new stadium "needs to be" built: to separate more money from consumers. 

Sure, we'll enjoy being entertained by our Warriors playing ball in a new arena, we'll just need to open our own pocket books more for tickets, parking, food, beverages.   

Yipee.

[GGGG]

It's pretty obvious no one would be happy /downgrading/ our arena like you suggest.   

Bottom line, this is a net negative for MU season ticket holders and folks who attend games.  We already have a stadium that not only meets, but arguably exceeds our needs.  While having an NBA team and stadium is beneficial for recruiting, MU was already kneecapped by the BE implosion and being demoted to an Ocho-esq television network.  Losing proximity to the NBA would be fractional in comparison.  Not good, but we're already in a position we need to overcome far bigger issues.

There is exactly one reason, and one reason alone a new stadium "needs to be" built: to separate more money from consumers. 

Sure, we'll enjoy being entertained by our Warriors playing ball in a new arena, we'll just need to open our own pocket books more for tickets, parking, food, beverages.   

Yipee.

So you would rather keep the BC, lose the Bucks, and keep your Marquette tickets at relatively same price, than build a new arena, keep the Bucks, and *possibly* pay more for Marquette tickets?

Man you couldn't sound more like a cheap-a** Milwaukeean if you tried.

[mu-rara]

If anyone harbors any real hopes of making the streetcar... you know... something people use, then they really ought to make it go from where people are to where people want to go. So, yes, connecting it to the Arena and other places where people recreate would make sense.

Here's an idea.  

Mayor McDonothing wakes up from his slumber and realizes that an arena is more important than the streetcar to nowhere.  He ponies up $125 million to the arena.  

City is currently a non participant in funding.  That will not be well received by outstate legislators whose votes are needed to make this happen.

[Groin_pull]

It's pretty obvious no one would be happy /downgrading/ our arena like you suggest.   

Bottom line, this is a net negative for MU season ticket holders and folks who attend games.  We already have a stadium that not only meets, but arguably exceeds our needs.  While having an NBA team and stadium is beneficial for recruiting, MU was already kneecapped by the BE implosion and being demoted to an Ocho-esq television network.  Losing proximity to the NBA would be fractional in comparison.  Not good, but we're already in a position we need to overcome far bigger issues.

There is exactly one reason, and one reason alone a new stadium "needs to be" built: to separate more money from consumers. 

Sure, we'll enjoy being entertained by our Warriors playing ball in a new arena, we'll just need to open our own pocket books more for tickets, parking, food, beverages.   

Yipee.

Stay home and watch on TV. That is, if you don't mind paying for cable.

[JakeBarnes]

It's pretty obvious no one would be happy /downgrading/ our arena like you suggest.   

Bottom line, this is a net negative for MU season ticket holders and folks who attend games.  We already have a stadium that not only meets, but arguably exceeds our needs.  While having an NBA team and stadium is beneficial for recruiting, MU was already kneecapped by the BE implosion and being demoted to an Ocho-esq television network.  Losing proximity to the NBA would be fractional in comparison.  Not good, but we're already in a position we need to overcome far bigger issues.

There is exactly one reason, and one reason alone a new stadium "needs to be" built: to separate more money from consumers. 

Sure, we'll enjoy being entertained by our Warriors playing ball in a new arena, we'll just need to open our own pocket books more for tickets, parking, food, beverages.   

Yipee.

[GGGG]

Here's an idea.  

Mayor McDonothing wakes up from his slumber and realizes that an arena is more important than the streetcar to nowhere.  He ponies up $125 million to the arena.  

City is currently a non participant in funding.  That will not be well received by outstate legislators whose votes are needed to make this happen.

Part of the brilliance of this plan is that it is going to be funded within the state budget.  No "outstate legislator" is going to vote against the biennial budget bill because of the arena.  The only way it gets out of the budget bill is if someone introduces an amendment to remove it.  Now that amendment might be supported by an "outstate legislator," but that would likely be opposed by Milwaukee-area Democrats who would want the project.  I am reasonably certain that this gets through the legislature unchanged.  

[mu03eng]

If anyone harbors any real hopes of making the streetcar... you know... something people use, then they really ought to make it go from where people are to where people want to go. So, yes, connecting it to the Arena and other places where people recreate would make sense.

That ain't a street car, that's light rail.  It's an important distinction from an investment standpoint.

[mu_hilltopper]

So you would rather keep the BC, lose the Bucks, and keep your Marquette tickets at relatively same price, than build a new arena, keep the Bucks, and *possibly* pay more for Marquette tickets?

Man you couldn't sound more like a cheap-a** Milwaukeean if you tried.

"Possibly" pay more?     You're not seriously thinking prices will stay remotely where they are?  And please, phrase the response as I did, concerning tickets, parking, food and beverage.  

Calling that cheap-ass is .. a cheap shot, surprising from you.

[LAMUfan]

well it is milwaukeean 

[GGGG]

"Possibly" pay more?     You're not seriously thinking prices will stay remotely where they are?  And please, phrase the response as I did, concerning tickets, parking, food and beverage.  

Calling that cheap-ass is .. a cheap shot, surprising from you.

Then don't go to the games.

I heard this same line when Miller Park was built, when people had to shell out PSL's for renovated Lambeau, etc.  This is part of the deal when it comes to major sports these days.  It costs money.  It will never go down.  It will always increase.  It's part of the deal.

[Pakuni]

"Possibly" pay more?     You're not seriously thinking prices will stay remotely where they are?  And please, phrase the response as I did, concerning tickets, parking, food and beverage.  

Calling that cheap-ass is .. a cheap shot, surprising from you.

New stadium or not, prices aren't going anywhere but up.
As with most other products - and sports entertainment is definitely a product - the customer has the option to pay the higher price or not.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm willing to pay more to see Marquette play in a nicer stadium. I'm also willing to pay more if it means our program has another recruiting advantage.

[4everwarriors]

They will undoubtedly get much of that 50 mil from sellin' the namin' rights, aina?