The Two Jucos wanted by Wojo - a SF and a PG

[moomoo]

Hope he gets them. Players with these skill sets are what is needed. Throw in a big bodied rebounder and we'd be in real good shape.

Ty Outlaw. 6-6 210 SF
Strong athlete with nice range

Shawn Smith 6-4 PG.
High emotion, high energy kid.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/469744?referrer_id=1430256

[Warrior1969]

Do you really think he will sign two jucos?

[jsglow]

Why not? So long as both are on track for graduation.

[Litehouse]

They both didnt go the typical juco route out of HS.  They played a year at D1 and transferred to Lee for a year instead of sitting out like a regular transfer.  That's what Mike Kinsella did too.

[Tugg Speedman]

Ty Outlaw 6-6 210 SF
Strong athlete with nice range
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/469744?referrer_id=1430256

He's a juco and his last name is Outlaw!  No reason for concern here!

[Dr. Blackheart]

He's a juco and his last name is Outlaw!  No reason for concern here!

Last time we had both a Bo and Lee on the roster we did something special...

[Milkshakes]

I don't know if he will sign two Jucos but it seems clear he is looking at them.  So this idea that we will sign NO Jucos does not seem to be true.  I for one would be very happy with these two guys.  It would give us more balance next year.

[Tugg Speedman]

I don't know if he will sign two Jucos but it seems clear he is looking at them.  So this idea that we will sign NO Jucos does not seem to be true.  I for one would be very happy with these two guys.  It would give us more balance next year.

I agree ... in the longer run it is better to balance off the classes. 

[kmwtrucks]

If you watch some highlights of Outlaw he has a HM skill set as a small forward and seems to be able to knock down the 3 at high level in JUCO.  I like him the best of the ones I looked at.  I don't think we go over 12 this year in Ships.  That would be 6b new guys.

[brewcity77]

I'm not sure how strong their interest is in Smith yet. Though based on the staff's trips I do think 1-2 JUCOs are likely. Outlaw looks like a great fit, but Smith is more a SG. There are other legit PG targets that seem like better fits.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

There are other legit PG targets that seem like better fits.

Who? The true PGs among the JUCO ranks is quickly drying up. I don't really see any impact freshman left at the PG position either. Closest thing is Marcus LoVett but I think we've moved on from him.

[brewcity77]

My choice would probably be Dequon Miller. Agree that I haven't heard us mentioned with LoVett in awhile.

[tower912]

It is impossible to count on a Carlino/Lockett-like transfer.   MU is going to be very young next year and completely unsettled at the point.    An accomplished JUCO PG and Wing are good hedges against inexperience, transfers, or delayed entries.   

[BCHoopster]

I hope these JC kids realize that

[forgetful]

It is impossible to count on a Carlino/Lockett-like transfer.   MU is going to be very young next year and completely unsettled at the point.    An accomplished JUCO PG and Wing are good hedges against inexperience, transfers, or delayed entries.   

I would love to see that kind of transfer. Not sure what is out there as far as RS Senior Guards (that may then have another year of eligibility), but a guard that can shoot from 3 would be great. 

Isiah Umipig from Seattle.
KT Harrell from Auburn.

No insight whatsoever, but the two above would have red-shirted a year (so may be able to graduate) and still have a year of eligibility.  Someone like this would be a godsend next year.

[BCHoopster]

Wow better tell the coaches, how long did it take you to find those names?

[brewcity77]

If it all goes belly up at SMU, I would fall all over myself to see Nic Moore here.

[esotericmindguy]

If it all goes belly up at SMU, I would fall all over myself to see Nic Moore here.

If? This is Larry Brown we're talking about.

[brewcity77]

If? This is Larry Brown we're talking about.

Good point  

Should have said if it goes belly up this year. Sounds like the Ponies may have trouble right around the corner, and Moore is a stud with 4 years behind him. Should be eligible to transfer either way, but a tourney ban may hasten the process.

[Jay Bee]

I would love to see that kind of transfer. Not sure what is out there as far as RS Senior Guards (that may then have another year of eligibility), but a guard that can shoot from 3 would be great. 

Isiah Umipig from Seattle.
KT Harrell from Auburn.

No insight whatsoever, but the two above would have red-shirted a year (so may be able to graduate) and still have a year of eligibility.  Someone like this would be a godsend next year.

The issue with Umipig (very much a shoot-first 6'0" guard) and Harrel both is that they redshirted due to one-year in residence requirements after transferring D-I to D-I. That said, they are not eligible for the graduate transfer exception. They *could* potentially receive a waiver, but it's not a slam dunk.

[The Equalizer]

I agree ... in the longer run it is better to balance off the classes.  

After years of watching early departures for pros, transfers, players not pan out (either due to athletics or academics), players who are able to contribute as underclassmen, players who have limited contribution due to injuries, medical redshirts, etc. etc. etc., you would think people would stop suggesting that there is value in trying to "balance the classes."

I hope to God that "balancing the classes" has absolutely ZERO consideration in Wojo's calculus when recruiting for next year, and 100% of his decision making is focused on "Can this player help us win in 2016".  Period.  

The furthest I'd suggest he go would be if he feels 100% comfortable that he has a strong first 10 or 11 players for 2016, THEN take a chance on a couple of projects--NOT to balance classes, but because he thinks they can develop into a strong player. Or to take a high-quality transfer that has to sit out a year--again because he's a great player, not because he'll be a soph/junior/senior and you need one more in that class.

[jesmu84]

Good point 

Should have said if it goes belly up this year. Sounds like the Ponies may have trouble right around the corner, and Moore is a stuff with 4 years behind him. Should be eligible to transfer either way, but a tourney ban may hasten the process.

SMU is gonna get burned to the ground, yet Syracuse and UNC get to go about their business with no interference. The NCAA continues to be a joke.

[bilsu]

After years of watching early departures for pros, transfers, players not pan out (either due to athletics or academics), players who are able to contribute as underclassmen, players who have limited contribution due to injuries, medical redshirts, etc. etc. etc., you would think people would stop suggesting that there is value in trying to "balance the classes."

I hope to God that "balancing the classes" has absolutely ZERO consideration in Wojo's calculus when recruiting for next year, and 100% of his decision making is focused on "Can this player help us win in 2016".  Period.  

The furthest I'd suggest he go would be if he feels 100% comfortable that he has a strong first 10 or 11 players for 2016, THEN take a chance on a couple of projects--NOT to balance classes, but because he thinks they can develop into a strong player. Or to take a high-quality transfer that has to sit out a year--again because he's a great player, not because he'll be a soph/junior/senior and you need one more in that class.

I agree. You recruit for need and not to balance classes. I do like transfers that have to sit out. You need 13 players for practice, but not for games.

[Groin_pull]

SMU is gonna get burned to the ground, yet Syracuse and UNC get to go about their business with no interference. The NCAA continues to be a joke.

And lets not forget Penn State...which now gets to pretend nothing ever happened. You're right. The NCAA is a pathetic, worthless joke.

[GOO]

After years of watching early departures for pros, transfers, players not pan out (either due to athletics or academics), players who are able to contribute as underclassmen, players who have limited contribution due to injuries, medical redshirts, etc. etc. etc., you would think people would stop suggesting that there is value in trying to "balance the classes."

I hope to God that "balancing the classes" has absolutely ZERO consideration in Wojo's calculus when recruiting for next year, and 100% of his decision making is focused on "Can this player help us win in 2016".  Period.  

The furthest I'd suggest he go would be if he feels 100% comfortable that he has a strong first 10 or 11 players for 2016, THEN take a chance on a couple of projects--NOT to balance classes, but because he thinks they can develop into a strong player. Or to take a high-quality transfer that has to sit out a year--again because he's a great player, not because he'll be a soph/junior/senior and you need one more in that class.

I agree and think that the only people who think about balancing classes are fans of message boards and particularly scoop.  The coach's know better.  Now, there is always an exception in extreme cases, but that is a rarity.  Otherwise, it is about getting  the best players in and getting ready for next season.